Things seem to be unfolding rather quickly. Former White House aides and advisors are scrambling to cover themselves as they receive subpoenas to appear and produce documents.
It’s rare when lawyers — as opposed to their clients — take the Fifth Amendment. But Jeffrey Clark, the former Justice Department lawyer who reportedly tried to help Donald Trump overturn the 2020 presidential election, is now claiming the privilege against self-incrimination to avoid testifying before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. He has just been joined in that posture by one of Trump’s main outside legal advisers, John Eastman.
The lawsuit comes after the committee signaled it would pursue a criminal contempt referral against Meadows because of his refusal to sit for a deposition in the investigation into the Capitol riot. Meadows alleges that the subpoenas are "overly broad and unduly burdensome," while claiming that the committee "lacks lawful authority to seek and to obtain" the information requested.
And apparently Mark Meadows had a power point outlining how to overturn election results.
The 38-page presentation, entitled "Election Fraud, Foreign Interference & Options for 6 Jan," is dated one day before the Capitol riot. It's believed to have been submitted by Meadows after he was subpoenaed by the panel in connection with the insurrection.
And the photographed evidence just reflects patriot tourists who came just to peacefully demonstrate? How do they explain that and how dumb do they think we are?
They don't explain they just regurgitate the propaganda. They think that their voting base is too indoctrinated to comprehend what's going on. There's some evidence that they aren't wrong about their voters' inability to discern truth from nonsense. There are members here in AN who don't think that what Trump incited is a cause for alarm.
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4 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:
They don't explain they just regurgitate the propaganda. They think that their voting base is too indoctrinated to comprehend what's going on. There's some evidence that they aren't wrong about their voters' inability to discern truth from nonsense. There are members here in AN who don't think that what Trump incited is a cause for alarm.
The thing that disturbs me is how many influential Republicans initially were alarmed, and later essentially declared hey, what was the big deal, anyway? It takes a very unhealthy mental state to change your mind about something like that. That probably rippled out and paved the way to an increased indifference to violence among the voting base.
The thing that disturbs me is how many influential Republicans initially were alarmed, and later essentially declared hey, what was the big deal, anyway? It takes a very unhealthy mental state to change your mind about something like that. That probably rippled out and paved the way to an increased indifference to violence among the voting base.
Actually, most conservatives and Republicans think what happened that day was horrible.
When it was realized that elected Democrats and their propagandist media arm were titalating their followers (Russia collusion style) with the idea that Trump and Buffalo Horn Man conspired for a insurrection, elected Republicans were forced to pull back their concern.
Actually, most conservatives and Republicans think what happened that day was horrible.
When it was realized that elected Democrats and their propagandist media arm were titalating their followers (Russia collusion style) with the idea that Trump and Buffalo Horn Man conspired for a insurrection, elected Republicans were forced to pull back their concern.
Who suggested that the horned Qanon shaman and Trump conspired for an insurrection? Which elected Democrat was titillating followers about that specific and silly conspiracy on which propaganda media outlet? Do really believe that baloney or are you trying to gaslight us?
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49 minutes ago, Beerman said:
Actually, most conservatives and Republicans think what happened that day was horrible.
When it was realized that elected Democrats and their propagandist media arm were titalating their followers (Russia collusion style) with the idea that Trump and Buffalo Horn Man conspired for a insurrection, elected Republicans were forced to pull back their concern.
Which elected Democrats were claiming that Trump and Buffalo Horn Man were conspiring to plan what occured at the Capitol that day?
I keep up pretty well on political stories each day, and I have never seen that.
You're saying that rather far-fetched theory forced elected Republicans to pull back their concern over a deranged attack on the Capitol, the attempt to stop the certifying of the 2020 electoral count, the wanton destruction of federal property, the assaulting of police officers, the 5 people who died as a result? If so, it makes those elected Republicans pretty despicable people.
Actually, most conservatives and Republicans think what happened that day was horrible.
Does the censoring of the two republicans who volunteered to work on the January 6 select committee but the RNC contradict the notion that most republicans think what happened that day was horrible?
The Republican National Committee censured two GOP lawmakers on Friday for participating on the committee investigating the violent Jan. 6 insurrection and assailed the panel for leading a “persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse.”
GOP officials took a voice vote to approve censuring Reps. Liz Cheney of Wyoming and Adam Kinzinger of Illinois at the party’s Winter meeting in Salt Lake City. The censure was approved a day after an RNC subcommittee watered down a resolution that had recommended expelling the pair from the party.
The censure accuses Cheney and Kinzinger of “participating in a Democrat-led persecution.”
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RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel denied that the “legitimate political discourse” wording in the censure was referring to the violent attack on the Capitol by supporters of then-President Donald Trump and said it had to do with other actions taken by the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection. But the resolution drew no such distinction.
Does the language "legitimate political discourse" coming from the RNC sound like most republicans think what happened that day was horrible? I think it sounds like they are trying to change the narrative.
Does the language "legitimate political discourse" coming from the RNC sound like most republicans think what happened that day was horrible? I think it sounds like they are trying to change the narrative.
I really don't know what they are thinking here. Sounds like they are digging a hole and burying themselves in.
I can understand the stance that most of the protesters there were engaging in their right to protest. This is legitimate political discourse and the foundation of democracy. I have no problem with that.
But to say it's wrong to investigate what went wrong and how the legit protest lead to violence doesn't set well with me. I would think they would want republicans on the investigation committee.
I really don't know what they are thinking here. Sounds like they are digging a hole and burying themselves in.
I can understand the stance that most of the protesters there were engaging in their right to protest. This is legitimate political discourse and the foundation of democracy. I have no problem with that.
But to say it's wrong to investigate what went wrong and how the legit protest lead to violence doesn't set well with me. I would think they would want republicans on the investigation committee.
Do you think...given that language and action from the RNC...think that many republicans think what happened on 010621 was horrible and want it investigated? It's beginning to look like the GOP response to 010621 is evolving.
Do you think...given that language and action from the RNC...think that many republicans think what happened on 010621 was horrible and want it investigated? It's beginning to look like the GOP response to 010621 is evolving.
My guess is that they just want to bury the mess and have us forget about it and move on. They know the further they get away from it and the less it's in the news and minds of people the less important it is.
Back in September the number of republicans that wanted prosecution had declined. They are piggybacking on this sentiment that seems to have continued today. By changing the narrative to "legitimate political discourse" rather than the harsher "riot" or "Insurrection" they are making the investigation less important to their party's base. It seems to be working for them.
My guess is that they just want to bury the mess and have us forget about it and move on. They know the further they get away from it and the less it's in the news and minds of people the less important it is.
Back in September the number of republicans that wanted prosecution had declined. They are piggybacking on this sentiment that seems to have continued today. By changing the narrative to "legitimate political discourse" rather than the harsher "riot" or "Insurrection" they are making the investigation less important to their party's base. It seems to be working for them.
Before he bowed and scraped to Donald Trump in the 2016 GOP primary, Chris Christie had built a national reputation as a straight shooter.
Now the former New Jersey governor is trying to reinvent himself as what he used to be -- someone who tells the truth even when it's uncomfortable for his side.
Witness what he told conservative radio talk-show host Hugh Hewitt about the January 6, 2021, attack at the US Capitol:
"January 6 was a riot that was incited by Donald Trump in an effort to intimidate Mike Pence and the Congress into doing exactly what he said in his own words last week: overturn the election. He wanted the election to be overturned."
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I thought the reception that Pence received was a bit reserved. That seems notable given what he was talking about.