It just isn't fair

hospitalstaph · Jul 1, 2006

I had never heard of repeating classes 2 or 3 or more times to better your grade until I started looking in to RN schools. In cases where the higher GPAs are required for weight purposes, I guess I can see where it's a necessity, but I have to say that I am horrified to think these people can sit through the SAME professor each of these times when repeating a class. To me, it seems a bit like cheating. The OP is right; there is something very wrong with THAT system!!

If that's cheating, then they really suck at it since they keep repeating the class:lol2: !

At my school, repeating a class just means that your first and second grade are averaged. For example, if you take Micro and get an F and then retake it and get an A, you will actually have a C for your Micro grade. I am glad that I never needed to repeat anything and even happier to be in the program now.

Best of luck to you all,

T

marilynmom, LPN, NP · Jul 1, 2006

My favorite is the people that get accepted in and then drop or fail out! How infuriating!!

Give me a break.... How do you think those people who fail out feel and it doesn't mean they didn't try, nursing isn't for everyone and some people do "fail"?! And people drop out because things happen in life sometimes (husband might lose a job for instance, that happened to a friend of mine and she was forced to drop out of nursing school, that killed her). Please don't judge

marilynmom, LPN, NP · Jul 1, 2006

Things in life are not fair, get used to it....especially if your going into nursing, your going to find a lot of things that are not fair.

Just focus on yourself.

Nursing is not a "calling" for me, I don't even believe in callings personally... I can't stand it when people think you HAVE to have some ridiculas "calling" in order to be a good nurse....puke. I have always been drawn to the healthcare field and I looked at many things before commiting myself to nursing school. My familys needs, my needs, what I thought I would enjoy, money (yep that's right..I don't want to be poor, btdt), job security, flexibility, etc etc etc.

smk1, LPN · Jul 1, 2006

Who cares how many times someone take a A&P class or Micro class, just because you get an "A" doesnt mean your going to be a good nurse, it just means your book smart. Some people (including myself) have a hard time grasping the information the first time around, and may need more time than someone else. Someone who keeps trying and doesnt quit is considered good to me. They are paying for it, your not so if they are in the same class for three or four time then so be it.

I agree to an extent, but when you have lots of students waiting to get into A&P and there are people there on their third try...well it gets frustrating. I think after 2 tries you should have to wait at least 2 terms to retry. It is really frustrating to wait a whole year to make it into the class because of students who do this. I agree though that every one learns at their own pace, it just makes it hard for other students when the classes fill up in the first hour of registation and 1/4 of the students are ones who filled it up the quarter before.

smk1, LPN · Jul 1, 2006

I'm confused....are you seriously knocking the people that took it slow in order to get better grades?? What possible difference should it make how long someone takes getting the prereqs out of the way?!

I think her point was that someone who takes a full load and gets a "B" in a class like A&P shows that they can handle a tough course load and still excell whereas if you only take 1 class you theoretically have more time to devote to getting that "A". I agree with the point in theory, but everyone makes their choices. You can't penalize someone just because they don't need to, can't, or don't want to take a full load of classes. An "A" is still and A, and that person may still have gotten an "A" if they took a full load. Still, I do know that our schools dental hygiene program does look at how many classes a student takes at a time to see if they are prepared to handle a full load of classes in their program, because obviously you can't take just one class at a time while in the program. In any case people need to focus on themselves and their personal situation instead of worrying about ever Tom, Dick and Harry. No one is guaranteed a spot.

truern · Jul 1, 2006

Well, some of us took a class or two at a time because there WAS a huge waiting list once you'd applied to the nursing program. Keep us from bitching because we were finished with pre- and co-reqs and were twiddling our thumbs waiting to get admitted.

Besides..in my program you got points according to your grade. It made sense to concentrate on a class in order to get an A. I don't know of anybody in my school sitting thru a class several times to improve their grade.

Euskadi1946 · Jul 1, 2006

Some people take their pre-reqs a class at a time because they probably cannot afford to do otherwise. Whatsmore, people who are dropped from a nursing program and come back to take a crack at that nursing degree are persevering to make a dream come true and there is nothing wrong with that either. People who persevere the most and graduate from nursing school with a 78 make just as good if not better nurses than the ones who fly through and get straight A's. What's most important is that you are becoming a nurse to help heal the sick. They don't care if you got F's. No amount of A's can make you feel good compared to knowing that you have helped someone heal both mentally and physically. That to me is the best HIGH of all.

smk1, LPN · Jul 3, 2006

Well, some of us took a class or two at a time because there WAS a huge waiting list once you'd applied to the nursing program. Keep us from bitching because we were finished with pre- and co-reqs and were twiddling our thumbs waiting to get admitted.
Besides..in my program you got points according to your grade. It made sense to concentrate on a class in order to get an A. I don't know of anybody in my school sitting thru a class several times to improve their grade.[/QUOTE]
I actually know lots (which is why a rule change is being instituted), but that is neither here nor there. I for one always just worried about myself and made my own choices and didn't stress anybody else. Was just posting that the OP had a point, just not one that you could generalize to everyone. Posted before that you shouldn't be able to penalize people for their credit load or lack thereof. We actually agree here.

SummerGarden, BSN, MSN, RN · Jul 4, 2006

***same here...wonder' if they really want it or its just a requirement to go abroad and earn bucks of money...how sad:o...nursing is a calling, a vocation not just to earn dollars, its a profession not a course to pursue and drop after having a car or got an immigrant visa..
..tsk..tsk...

:barf02:

Oh, give it a REST! You do not have to become a nurse if you want to help people or save lives. If you want to help people volunteer; I DO! I also worked as social worker and helped a lot of people, go give that a try.

Nursing, like any other profession, is a PROFESSION! Not a calling! I am happy to say that I am in it for the money, opportunities to make more money, and career diversity (I do not want to be bored as I make money). By the way, I REALLY REALLY WANT TO BE A NURSE, just in case you are wondering! :nurse:

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Jul 4, 2006

Oh, for Pete's sake, to some people it's a calling, to others, it's not. To each their own.

traumahawk99 · Jul 4, 2006

nursing is a huge profession, and any health care system needs people of all sorts to function. that means entreprenuers, bedside nurses, hospice nurses, salespeople with nursing backgrounds, managers, administrators, etc.

people have a variety of motivations for pursuing these careers. if everyone was a bedside nurse, the entire system would grind to a halt overnight.

if you can't understand that the profession is much, much bigger than your myopic vision, then you're going to be in for a very frustrating time. this reminds me of a nursing school instructor who tries to cull students who "don't have nursiing in their heart". how pompous!

soliant12 · Jul 4, 2006

Nursing a calling??????? Would you be a nurse if it paid nothing?

Hi hope i don't offend anyone but i'm just a little fustrated.I'm tired of people who don't don't give a damn about nursing but just doing it for the money getting accepted to nursing schools and those of us who are answering our calling and want to be nurses more than anything else always getting put on the back burner(so to speak).I know a lot of people who just did it for the money and quit in a few years time.They could have quit from the start and give us there seat.At least it would have been worth it.Anyone else feels my pain?Sorry if i offend anyone just getting my anger out.