Is it true that a BSN will be mandatory soon?

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An instructor of mine (I'm in another state) stated that she recently went to a national educators conference and that they were saying that within the next several years in NY it would be mandatory to have your BSN. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks

That "research" was poorly done at best.

I find it unfortunate that our profession seems to be the only one that actually publishes craptastic research in order to put down our own members. The people who promoted that study should be ashamed of themselves.

I would love to see all nurses earn their BSNs, but for professional development reasons, not because I think ADNs are somehow deficient. Due to the number of nurses we need and where we need them, BSN programs need to be accessible. ADN programs have mastered this, so the BSN promoters have no one to blame but themselves.

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Specializes in Oncology/Haemetology/HIV.
i am currently a nursing student who will not be graduating til 2009 and today one of my instructors told my class that there will be laws passed requiring rn's to have a bsn by 2010!

I would say that is a big NO!!!!.

Please remind the instructor that the only state in the nation that required a BSN for RNs, has repealed it.

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Not going to happen...unless they want the largest population of nurses in the field currently (45 years of age and up with ADN's) to all leave nursing?

The ANA has pushed this agenda for years, claiming that a BSN will give more credibility to the nursing industry.

I know that obtaining Magnet status in Illinois hospitals does not mean that LPN's get the axe. I will agree that sometimes it means that an LPN get's converted in his/her duties to more of an advanced CNA type.

It really depends on the hopsital and their staffing needs.

There is no way they will mandate a BSN by 2010, 2/3 of their RN's would leave the field.

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Ask your instructor to let you know where she read that so you can "do more research to be prepared?"

I would be willing to bet she can't provide you with one.

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it seems that some of you think that if there is a change to have entry level rn's be bsn's, then huge numbers of older adn's will leave the workforce. i am just not sure why you all think that. like other professions that have upped their educational requirements for entry level, all of those currently in programs and those currently licensed are grandfathered in. true, there are not enough bsn programs out there right now, but what better to get more schools to create and expand their programs.

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Specializes in geriatrics, L&D, newborns.

I first heard about the BSN requirement in 1965! The head of the school of nursing (hospital) tried to talk me out of going there and suggested I should go to college and get a BSN because it would soon be required. So if I were you, I would just say, "Thanks for sharing."

:heartbeat

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The rumor I heard was if you had already graduated and passesd the boards you were grandfathered in:nurse:

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The rumor I heard was if you had already graduated and passesd the boards you were grandfathered in:nurse:

Taking the boards does not substitute 2 additional years of schooling in the liberal arts and more advanced nursing courses in a bachelor of science in nursing degree. The bachelor degree is science based with focus on educating its students, not focusing on all of the schooling time toward clinical skills. Although this is important, more and more hospitals are offering graduate nurse residencies, which should also be mandatory. I have a different point of view coming from a ivy league teaching hospital where all RN's on critical care floors must have their BSN's to be employed there. I think it should be necessary one day for all RN's to have their BSN's to provide a more educated approach and superior critical thinking skills to care for their patients.

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I lived in NY growing up and thats where I heard it back when I was a kid.

I have also lived in Greensboro NC (never heard it there but the ones I know there already have BSN's and don't talk about anything that doesn't directly pertain to them)

My cousin is going for her BSN in Winston Salem and she said she was told to shoot for that right off the bat from her counselors even though she originally was going for the ASN.

I am in Tampa now and I have heard rumors only but nothing from a legitimate source, just student rumors. I know several nurses at the VA with ASN's and and a few at TGH they aren't worried but they heard the same thing but again they heard it from people they don't feel are legitimate sources.

My friend in Orange Park has heard the same thing in North Florida but she said it was BS and I don't mean the degree. She has an ASN and she is not the least bit concerned with it, she knows her hospital needs every nurse in the place. They are too busy in Orange Park trying to keep their nurses from running off to go work in Jacksonville or Gainsville to start counting who has what degree.

Do you have any idea as to how much is the starting salary in OPM, I've 3 yrs MED SURG?

Thanks

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Taking the boards does not substitute 2 additional years of schooling in the liberal arts and more advanced nursing courses in a bachelor of science in nursing degree. The bachelor degree is science based with focus on educating its students, not focusing on all of the schooling time toward clinical skills. Although this is important, more and more hospitals are offering graduate nurse residencies, which should also be mandatory. I have a different point of view coming from a ivy league teaching hospital where all RN's on critical care floors must have their BSN's to be employed there. I think it should be necessary one day for all RN's to have their BSN's to provide a more educated approach and superior critical thinking skills to care for their patients.

And THAT is why you'll never see BSN requirement. You can try to persuade ADNs all you like with the notion of a 'grandfather' clause. Ultimately, once you go to BSN standard, as new nurses shift to BSN and the demographic of nurses shift away from the current majority ADN, there MUST be some guarantee that ADNs would be treated with the respect they deserve.

There is none.

Since those that wish to move to this standard wish to do so without bringing all vested parties to the table, the end result is a divisiveness that will never allow this agenda to go forward. Instead of dismissing the stakeholders to this debate, you'll eventually have to bring all stakeholders to the table - IF you want to actually make some progress.

Instead of uniting nurses, the tactics of the ADN/BSN debate divides them. The result: 43 yrs since the ANA's proclamation, and BSN is no closer to the standard. BSN in 2010? Wait a few years and it'll be 2015. Just like it was 1965. And 1972. And 1978. And 1982. And 1990. And 1995. And 2000. And 2005.

~faith,

Timothy.

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ND passed this law. It was repealed on very short order d/t the shortage it caused.

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In 1983 I was told NOT to go to an LPN program because they were going to do away with LPN's. Now I am 41 years old and starting....the very same LPN program I wanted in 20 some years ago!!! (Hear my loud screams?)

I will never listen to any of that stuff again!!!

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