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Is it the idea of NPs in general Dr. Leah Houston is disgusted with?

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Is it just the idea of NPs in general she’s disgusted with? 

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I guess it is unfortunate that some of the best medical care I have ever received came from NPs while almost all of the poor care, to include misdiagnoses, has come from MDs. I have no complaints with NPs to date. Sorry to say I can’t say the same for the almighty MDs.

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djmatte has 7 years experience as a ADN, MSN, RN, NP.

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Those who are most vocal often have the most to hide or make up for.  Wouldn't be shocked to see her on a suspended license list or serious malpractice suit some day.

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llg has 43 years experience as a PhD, RN and specializes in Nursing Professional Development.

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I've been misdiagnosed by an NP and on another occasion, by a physician.   Both instances had consequences for me.   My brother had serious consequences after being misdiagnosed by a PA.   

We are an equal-opportunity family.  I guess we shouldn't trust any primary health care providers.

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FullGlass has 2 years experience as a BSN, MSN, NP and specializes in Adult and Geriatric Primary Care.

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1 hour ago, llg said:

I've been misdiagnosed by an NP and on another occasion, by a physician.   Both instances had consequences for me.   My brother had serious consequences after being misdiagnosed by a PA.   

We are an equal-opportunity family.  I guess we shouldn't trust any primary health care providers.

Trust but verify.

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myoglobin has 12 years experience as a ASN, BSN, MSN and specializes in ICU, trauma, neuro.

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Rather than anecdotes it would be more helpful to cite studies that compare outcomes between MD and NP's. Most of the studies that have been conducted have shown no difference in outcomes:

a.  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK384613/

b. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5594520/

c. https://www.aanp.org/advocacy/advocacy-resource/position-statements/quality-of-nurse-practitioner-practice

 

It is unfortunate that professionals as highly trained in the scientific process as MD's (in this case) rely on personal experience rather than empirical evaluation of the data.

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Haters are going to hate. I am already bored of her and have more interesting things to pay attention to. See you! 

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AlwaysLearning247 has 4 years experience as a BSN.

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There are huge egos I never knew existed before I become a nurse. We are all a team and it’s pathetic that some people feel the need to degrade one another. There have been times when I caught a mistake on the MDs part, and vice versa! I do agree that NPs do not get the same amount of training as MDs, but that does not mean that they can’t do their job just as well, if not better. We are comparing apples to oranges.

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Aaron needs to learn what the term “racist” actually means.

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djmatte has 7 years experience as a ADN, MSN, RN, NP.

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2 minutes ago, DeeAngel said:

Aaron needs to learn what the term “racist” actually means.

And the 25 people who "loved" his post.  

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This is because she is an unpleasant person. Please disregard her title.

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On 11/14/2019 at 4:33 PM, myoglobin said:

Rather than anecdotes it would be more helpful to cite studies that compare outcomes between MD and NP's. Most of the studies that have been conducted have shown no difference in outcomes:

a.  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK384613/

b. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5594520/

c. https://www.aanp.org/advocacy/advocacy-resource/position-statements/quality-of-nurse-practitioner-practice

 

It is unfortunate that professionals as highly trained in the scientific process as MD's (in this case) rely on personal experience rather than empirical evaluation of the data.

I briefly scanned these. One is a systematic review with many studies in question having NP who were supervised by attendings. It didn't even list the database they used. Who their right mind would do a real study giving NPs and physicians equal acuity patients? Wouldn't it be unethical to do so? Any studies like these are a laughing stock because the methods are so bad to begin with.

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