Is the BSN for Everybody? Things to Consider when Considering School

This article explores the pros and cons of registered nurses pursuing their BSN. The information included is based on the writer's personal observations and experiences, both before and after obtaining a BSN degree.

  1. Does the BSN really benefit bedside nurses?

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      No. The job is the same with or without the degree.
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      Yes. The BSN improves direct bedside care.
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      Yes, but only as a stepping stone to advanced clinical practice (FNP, CRNA, CNS)

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How important is schedule to you?

If you're the kind of nurse who loves working three 12s and having the rest of your week off, you might find that options are limited away from the bedside. Many non-clinical positions are Monday-Friday, daytime operations that only offer 8 hour shifts. Some may offer 4-10s or rotating shifts, but 3-day work weeks are hard to come by outside of direct patient care.

What part of nursing do you enjoy?

If you really love taking care of patients, and really loathe sitting in meetings and doing paperwork, that's something to consider when thinking about your BSN. Leadership and education positions tend to involve a lot of writing and speaking; if figuring out schedules, sending emails, and giving presentations is not your thing, most administrative BSN roles won't be a good fit.

On the other hand, if the clinical aspect of nursing is your passion and you intend to eventually pursue an advanced practice role as a nurse practitioner or nurse anesthetist, you will absolutely need your BSN first. CRNA programs also require at least a year of recent critical care experience, so you won't want to stray far from the bedside once you have your BSN.

Is your goal to get a raise?

If you're thinking of getting a BSN just to earn more and become more marketable, it helps to have the facts. In many hospitals, there is no wage increase for earning your BSN. Most facilities determine pay based on the job description, more so than the credentials. For instance, the administration looks at market values and determines that RNs at the bedside should make X dollars an hour. Some may add a bit to the hourly wage for a BSN, but many do not; a bedside nurse is a bedside nurse and they are paid as such even with a BSN.

This is certainly something many would like to change, but before that can happen there will need to be a fundamental change in BSN education. Currently, a nurse can earn a BSN in a matter of months online without a single live lecture or any hands-on learning. Few, if any, BSN programs require a clinical component or practicum. There are no advanced clinical skills, no new knowledge significant enough to affect performance at the bedside, and therefore no real justification for an increase in pay. An overhaul to existing BSN programs, including advanced clinicals, might help to change that and make BSNs more marketable.

If you do intend to transition into a higher-paying leadership role with your BSN, go for it; just bear in mind that most management and education roles are salaried, not hourly, so figure that into your calculations. If you're someone who relies on occasional overtime or likes to pick up holidays for the premium pay, these differentials usually don't apply to salaried (aka "exempt") positions.

Are you hoping for a competitive edge in the job market?

If you're trying to get ahead, continuing education and impressive credentials will certainly help. Bear in mind, though, that the BSN is becoming very commonplace now among bedside nurses. Many hospitals strongly encourage, and even require, nurses to obtain a BSN within a certain number of years after hire or in order to apply for transfers within the organization. In the recent past, BSN nurses were in leadership roles as nurse managers, directors of nursing in long-term care, and nursing instructors in diploma and ADN schools. Now that the average bedside nurse has, or is expected to earn their BSN, leadership and advanced roles are requiring even higher levels of education. You should absolutely pursue the degree if you want to advance, but many nurses now are also seeking additional certifications in various specialties like diabetes, oncology, or wound care, in order to stay competitive.

Is money no object?

One more thing any nurse should consider before returning to school is the matter of finances. Some may qualify for federal grants or full scholarships, but most working nurses will end up paying at least part of their tuition and fees out of pocket. If you're lucky enough to get a free ride, take full advantage of it. If you're like most nurses and have to rely on student loans and/or tuition reimbursement, take all the factors into account before you decide. For instance:

What is your current financial situation? Even with student loans and tuition reimbursement, many nurses often have out of pocket expenses for every semester. If your nursing job lands you a certain income bracket, you may only receive partial student loans and have to pay the remainder of tuition yourself. That's something to consider if money is already tight. Also remember that currently, getting your BSN does not guarantee an increase in monthly income. All too often BSNs find themselves in the same job making the same money, but now with a student loan payment to contend with every month.

How close are you to retirement? The repayment period for most student loans is 10 years, so it may not be worth it if you plan to retire in 6. However, if your finances are such that you could pay extra or pay the loan off early, you might want to go ahead.

Are you planning to relocate or change employers after graduation? Employer tuition reimbursement usually exchanges financial aid for months or years of continued service post-graduation. If you leave your employment before the debt is worked off, the benefit has to be paid back to the facility. Read the tuition assistance policies carefully to determine how long you'll need to stay on after graduation and what your payback amount would be should you choose to leave early.

Is your projected BSN salary enough to balance out the student loan debt? Most BSNs end up paying around $240 per month for their student loan after graduation, so bear in mind that you'll need to make at least that much more per month just to break even. The sad truth is that as it stands now, many BSNs find themselves struggling to make that monthly payment when there is no wage increase for earning the extra degree. Leadership roles will usually pay you a bit more, but remember to think about the schedule requirements and exempt/non-exempt status of those positions.

What's the bottom line?

Generally speaking, you almost can't go wrong with more education. The more letters behind your name, the better your resume looks, and there is also a sense of personal achievement. Still, when considering a BSN program, it's important to examine all the pieces: your goals, your finances, your lifestyle and family situations, as well as your likes and dislikes when it comes to work. Do you need to be home with your kids more? Do you rely on overtime or shift differential to make ends meet? Do you love patients but hate paperwork? These are all things to consider.

We all eagerly look forward to the day when the BSN translates to tangible benefits for the average nurse. Sadly, as it stands right now, for many there is no life-changing advantage and the BSN serves only as a stepping stone to an even higher degree or advanced clinical practice. The information here is not meant to discourage anyone from pursuing higher education, only to help put the undergraduate degree and its pros and cons into perspective.

If your facility requires the BSN for bedside nurses, then your choice is simple. However, if you just really love taking care of patients and have no desire to enter leadership or administration, you may fare better with a specialty certification in an area that interests you. The cost is far less, and the BSN does not focus on clinical skills. If you do want to qualify for entry-level leadership and education roles, then the BSN is the way to go. In future we hope to see the BSN carry more weight and offer more leverage, but to do so it must also provide increased skills and greater knowledge. Changes in education are likely the only thing that will translate into changes in benefits. Still, the great thing about nursing is that we have a wide-open, versatile field where there is something for everybody. Hopefully the information included here can help you decide which of those somethings is right for you in your own nursing practice.

I think on some levels you're right but with the public, nurses are number 1 consistently year after year.

Libby1987 said:
I don't know if you dismissed or simply missed my previous post re home health but it is more advanced than I think you're giving it credit.

quoting myself..

You are in case management,plus when I speak of Home Health I am referring to Private Duty,or shift work in the home involving 1:1 care.

I work side by side with Lpn's doing the exact same thing they do.

I have never written a care plan in PDN,nor do I manage or supervise.

I complete my 8 or 12 hour shift working with a trach and vent patient,then i go home.

The nursing supervisors are the ones who do the managing.

My job title is Field RN.

PearsonBSN said:
you make a good point. ADNs are only being affected in acute care facilities. Hospital nursing is the most desired and best paying jobs for ADNs, but BSNs have the education in organizations, systems and management which is better suited for entry level positions in hospitals. Perhaps Changing the focus of the respective degrees may better define the roles.

I believe Canada has a similar setup,where there are 2 yr educated nurses and 4 yr educated nurses.

In any event,it seems employers are making the choice. Many hospitals are letting go of Adn's,who then show up in Home Health. Many of them I have trained to HH.

Strange enough,many have trouble adapting,and I understand why.

It is repetitive and mostly task based,with little wiggle room for trying new ideas.

Specializes in Critical Care and ED.

There's a lot of hating on the BSN on this site but I think the perception that there's no value to it is wrong. It's true that it's unusual to get more money because of a BSN in theory, however, it does beef up one's resume substantially and open the job pool that much wider. I've been offered jobs I never would have been offered if I didn't have a BSN and I'm always offered the top of the wage scale becasue of my experience. In my state it's now nigh impossible to get an acute care position without a BSN. Two months after I graduated I was hired into my current job with a large pay raise (at the same hospital I was already working at). My manager told me she hired me becasue of my resume and education (I also have 3 certifications). In the long term education is an investment and you're building on your worth as a professional. I was an old school diploma nurse and had been in nursing for over 20 years by the time I did my BSN. Luckily I only paid $15,000 for it because my hospital had a cohort agreement with a university in our state and I paid for it out of my paycheck every week...I barely noticed the payments go out so it was painless. It worked out beautifully and now I'm doing my Master's in an acute NP program.

You have to remain competitive in this job market and whether you like it or not, letters after your name make a difference. I would never discourage anyone from getting their BSN. If you plan on being a professional career nurse I would say it's a priority to ensure your appeal to hirers.

Specializes in Surgical ICU nurse.

Penn State RN-BSN does require clinicals. I am currently a student with their online program and its been very good. Their are programs that do require a clinical practicum.

Specializes in Surgical ICU nurse.
AutumnApple said:
Even if it becomes mandatory, we'll still be in the same place.

Part of the reason is, yes, we'll never have the respect we crave. Other professions are always in a hurry to point out why you are not "as respectable". Human nature is all that is.

The primary reason though is: We have not even decided what BSN education is yet. No good mandating an unknown. No two BSN programs are anything alike. A few core similarities, sure, but mostly arbitrary educational requirements.

This is what keeps us on our knees begging for "respect". We're so undecided about what we are, so there is no need to worry about what others think. If we can't answer the question of who we are, we can't expect others to "respect" it.

Yes you are right that BSN programs look vastly different. What I am required to take is different from my friends. So I agree this has to change.

Also think about the first nursing programs that were hospital based. Maybe nursing programs need more clinical time?

Specializes in ICU.
momof2divas said:
Penn State RN-BSN does require clinicals. I am currently a student with their online program and its been very good. Their are programs that do require a clinical practicum.

I wonder why as you have already completed that portion of a nursing program. Clinical hours are a state requirement. Therefore, once you are an RN, there are no more clinical hours needed? You do bedside clinical hours in a ASN-BSN program? That is interesting.

I laugh when schools advertise RN-BSN programs. You are still an RN. RN is the license, ASN and BSN are still the degree. I feel like that is partly the reason the general public doesn't understand our profession, because our profession doesn't. We let advertisers at colleges cause problems with our professional status.

I guess it depends on what area of the country you live in. My ASN has gotten me my RN license, I have a great job at bedside. I guess if I want to go into the administrative side, sure I could get my BSN. The thing is, I kind of like 3-12s. Yes, in administration, you work Monday thru Friday. But truly, if that was something I wanted, I would have stayed at my desk job. There are plenty of Monday-Friday jobs. I guess I understood what I was getting into before signing up for the job.

I don't want management, ever again. I did my years of management and it kind of sucks. Employees constantly complaining to you, upper management constantly complaining......... You are the middle man to nothing but people complaining, No Thank-You!

smartnurse1982 said:

You are in case management,plus when I speak of Home Health I am referring to Private Duty,or shift work in the home involving 1:1 care.

I work side by side with Lpn's doing the exact same thing they do.

I have never written a care plan in PDN,nor do I manage or supervise.

I complete my 8 or 12 hour shift working with a trach and vent patient,then i go home.

The nursing supervisors are the ones who do the managing.

My job title is Field RN.

No, I'm in Home Health. I was an RN case mgr in home health not case mgmt, which is a different field. Home Health of course not the same as Private Duty Nursing shift work. I wish posters would use the accurate industry titles as the two fields are as you eluded, very different.

I would never group the degree of difficulty nor the full scope of responsibilities of a home health nurse below that of an acute care nurse. If anything, I would say the BSN should be prioritized for home health versus inpatient bedside for all of the team mgmt required.

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nurseyblues said:
I can't believe the previous post from someone claiming to be a WORST nurse because of continuing education. Please explain how that happens.

She didn't say she was a "worst" [sic] nurse she said she was a "poorer" nurse. She was referring to being poorer due to the money she shelled out for her BSN completion program.:facepalm:

I agree about the clinical in BSN programs. In my BSN program we were steeped in clinical from day one. We were required to work as a CNA in the summer between our Junior and Senior years. If we did not do that we were told not to come back for the senior year. I have never been to good to clean someone, shower a patient, feed someone. You learn a lot from doing those things. My last job another RN and I teamed up because we were not as proficient as some of the CNAs and we attacked rounds ourselves. We had a good time and got points from our co-workers. We could never have done it alone but together we nailed it. Some of the patients looked at us a little funny, wondering why 2 RNs were doing the CNAs job but they tolerated it well and we laughed and joked with them. It certainly took a load off the rather busy CNAs that day.

I'll so just that thank you! I'm looking into programs now, I appreciate the response.

Specializes in Critical care, Trauma.
nurseyblues said:
Thank you, traumaRUs for your interest and comments. I worked my way up, too, and I was genuinely surprised at how little the BSN did for me as a clinical nurse--other than allowing me to enroll in the master's program that I expect to actually make a difference.

I really feel for those nurses who went back to school for their BSN only because they were compelled by the pursuit of Magnet status or requirements by their employer, only to find that they would be receiving no pay increase despite racking up thousands in debt. I think the BSN is fantastic for nurses looking to move away from bedside nursing, or those seeking to enter graduate programs. For those who just really love bedside nursing, are good at that vital role, I don't feel like it benefits anyone to force them to get a BSN that will not change the job they do, how they do it, or how much they're paid for it.

I agree. I'm finishing up my RN-to-BSN program this December and, beyond learning a little more about consuming research, I feel like it has been a total waste of time for me. I honestly would have dropped out after the first semester if I didn't want to go on to be a Nurse Practitioner later. The classes felt more like Gen Eds and I am so burnt out. :unsure: I'm sure it will help me later on if we move somewhere where the BSN really is more of a requirement (it isn't here in KS), but for now it's just a financial and emotional drain without any real benefit (no raise, no new bedside job opportunities).