Hello!! I just recently graduated with an ADN degree one week ago and waiting to take my boards. I been.an LPN 8yrs amd finally decided togo back for my RN anf here i am...but i digress...
Is having an ADN REALLY that? I already have a job lined up and i will be starting soon....the main reason i offered the position was becuz of my RN completion and i will be takin my NCLEX soon. Grant it, it at a LTAC facility but i figure this is a great way for me to get experience and.not become part of the sooo many new grads (ADN&BSN) that are not employed becuz they soooo desire to work in a hospital.
So please can someone clarify, IS HAVING AN A.D.N. DEGREE A TERRIBLE HORRIBLE NO GOOD VERY BAD WASTE??
(some post i read sure makes it feel that way) :-(
I have to wonder how nursing programs are different today vs. 20 years ago when I was in school. I met a new grad LVN recently who did not do one single minute of clinicals in a hospital setting. They did their peds rotation in a daycare! The rest of the clinicals were spent in nursing homes. I have heard of RNs graduating now without competance in even basic skills such as venipuncture. I can truly say as a new grad LVN and ADN 20 years ago I was adequately prepared. Our classes and clinicals were well-rounded and very skills-intensive. I didn't lack any basic skills or competancy when I graduated.[/quote']
It was hard for us to get clinical sites too as LPN students because many hospitals in our school's area no longer wanted to have LPN students on the floor. When we did get hospital clinical sites, we were pretty limited in what we could do. So I ended up doing my med surg rotations on a subacute unit at a nursing home. When I got my LPN license , it appeared that the nursing homes around here only want RNs ! This was in 2012.
The Director of Nursing at my hospital has an ADN. The nurse manager of the ICU in which I work has an ADN. The nurse manager in our ER and most of the other floors have an ADN. My cousin is DON of a nursing home with an ADN. Some places don't hire ADN's, some places do.
I already had a BA when I decided to become a nurse. Aside from student loans, I got no financial help from anyone. I could get an Associates for $7,000, a BSN for at least $15,000, or a Masters for at least $23,000. All RNs take the same licensing exam, so I went with the ADN.
I found out after graduation that hospitals in my area only hired BSNs. So far, I've worked LTC (which I will never do again) and Home Health.
My question is why are you considering phasing out LPNs? I work in an acute care hospital that is doing just that. We have lost a lot of experienced, very smart nurses. Nurses that taught me a lot. I understand that there are different levels of nursing care, however, just because the initials behind your name state LPN doesn't meant that they are less of a nurse than one that has BSN behind theirs.
So,do you think its better to phase out Adn's,when there are nurses with less education?
I thought the whole point of an all Bsn nursing force was to show that we are educated?
How can that be when we have nurses that are in school for a 1yr,yet people actually want to phase out nurses that are in school,(and have degrees) for 2 and 3 yrs?
I'm an Adn,but I don't understand people that want to phase "me" out,yet the Lpn gets to keep their titles,and yet I 'm more educated than them.
Doesn't make a bit of sense to me,unless you downgrade everyone else. Make the Adn. And Lpn,and downgrade the Lpn to something else. That might be fair.....
Doesn't make a bit of sense to me,unless you downgrade everyone else. Make the Adn. And Lpn,and downgrade the Lpn to something else. That might be fair.....
Not fair when I passed the NCLEX and hold a valid RN license...
My point was we shouldn't be phasing ANYONE out. I don't agree that a BSN degree saves lives. I too am an associate nurse and I have probably saved more lives than the BSNs at my hospital.
I may officially only have 2 years nursing education, however, I have a PhD in the school of nursing hard knocks.
KimberlyRN89, BSN, RN
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