I'm Not Flaky, Lazy, Or Stupid...

I have ADHD. Not the cool Tom Cruise/Ty Pennington kind, where you can act out and make lots of money, either. I have the kind where people label you as stupid, flaky, and lazy. I wanted people to have an idea of how it feels to never be in control of your own life. To get a glimpse of the nightmare of doing your best, and never, ever being good enough. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

I have been pretty vocal in my defense of ADHD sufferers in some threads recently, so it will probably not surprise you that I have it, and a pretty bad case.

Most people that I know don't "believe" in ADHD. They think it is a case of "boys will be boys," whatever meaning that holds for them, or that "she's just a daydreamer."

Some people think back to that one hyperactive kid, the one who got in trouble all the time in the first grade because he couldn't conform to the structure of a classroom, when they picture someone with ADHD.

Some people have a slightly clearer view and know that there are different kinds of ADHD. They know that some sufferers act out and that some seem to be in their own world.

The rare few who understand the condition know that it is a serious mental illness. Statistically, boys tend to get the more outgoing, hyperactive, aggressive types of it. Girls tend to get the inattentive, daydreaming types.

I have the inattentive kind of ADHD. To see me, I look normal. I even act normally, most of the time.

However, the things that go on in my head... {shudder}

My symptoms started showing when I was four. I constantly lost things. I would put on mismatched everything. I would wander off in the mall when things caught my attention. I got left behind a few times because I was enthralled and didn't hear my parents. I had a hard time following directions and would forget what someone had just said to me. My parents thought I must have a hearing problem.

So my first test was a hearing test. I passed that, pretty easily. My hearing was fine. My parents assumed that I needed more discipline and structure, that I was just flaky and a little absent-minded. It helped, a little, although my behind would never be the same.

I started kindergarten and did pretty well. They expect you to be flighty there.

First grade... not so much. I was a smart kid and could do the schoolwork, but I had problems with impulsivity and remembering to turn things in. My name lived on the naughty board. I couldn't stand the disappointment in my parents' faces, so I tried harder.

I had so much anxiety back then that I had severe insomnia. I would lay awake in bed at night and try to figure out why I was so bad. I prayed to God to make me a better girl. I prayed to God to fix me so I could be good like the other little girls and pay attention in class. I prayed to God to make Mama and Daddy not get so mad at me when I got in trouble for daydreaming, or leaving assignments at home, or for leaving my things at school.

My parents and teachers thought that maybe first grade was too easy for me, that I wasn't paying attention because I could already read and write.

My next test was an IQ test. I passed it, too. The powers-that-be decided I was "Gifted-and-Talented" and sent me to a special class. This helped, a little. The class was faster-paced and wasn't as repetitive, so it was easier for me to tune in. My name was still on the naughty board most of the time.

Things continued this way for a while. I was smart enough that I made good grades because I could pass the tests. Even when I didn't do the homework and missed deadlines, I could get by. I skated through each grade with A's and a couple of B's. That wasn't good enough, though. My teachers thought I was lazy, that with a little effort, I could get straight A's. That, if I would just apply myself, I could do my homework and pay attention in class and really be somebody smart.

It took all my effort just to do as well as I was, and everybody wanted more. My parents thought I could do better at home if I just tried a little harder. My teachers thought I could be a superstar, if I would just work a little harder. I cried myself to sleep most nights because I just couldn't figure out what they wanted from me. Nobody could explain it, either.

I heard over and over, "You're so smart. I don't understand why you don't try harder." Nobody ever listened when I said that I was trying as hard as I could. Nobody ever believed me.

I tried my hardest until the seventh grade. Then puberty hit.

I thought my life was stressful before, but once hormones hit... yeesh. My grades fell through through the floor. My life at home was in turmoil. I could barely remember to brush my teeth regularly. Forget showering daily. I was lucky to remember to even eat on a regular basis. My weight fluctuated horrendously as I would forget to eat for a day or two at a time, then gorge on sweets and junk food to make myself feel better emotionally.

Teachers are not equipped to see this. My parents had their own problems, as their marriage was starting to break up, and didn't even notice me most of the time.

Some other events happened and I ended up with an adopted brother and parents who were in a state of wary detente.

My new brother was six years old and wild. He had ADHD and acted out, like a champ. This led to him getting diagnosed very early.

However, my parents didn't "believe" in ADHD. They thought my brother's problems could be fixed with discipline and structure (sounds familiar, doesn't it?).

They worked with him and worked with him, and eventually he was able to keep it together in school.

He started smoking marijuana when he was eight years old. He claims it helped, a lot. It must have. He didn't end up in trouble nearly as much after that.

The result of all of this is that I and my problems were shoved to the background. I felt let down. I was valuable to my family, but no one was interested in my issues. I felt like my family could only see me if I acted like everything was OK. I felt like my problems were invisible to them. I couldn't trust anyone to see me as I was, to believe me when I told them I was having trouble. But I was able to manage and survived puberty fairly intact.

So, fast forward to my high school years. At this point, I had pretty much given up on ever being good enough for my teachers. My parents had divorced and remarried each other, and were in the process of breaking up again. I had also given up on being good enough for them. I was passively suicidal.

I prayed to God every day to let me have a tire blowout when I was alone in the car so I could die an a car accident, or to let me have a quick, deadly disease. I had suicide fantasies. I couldn't follow through, though, because my precious baby brother, the adopted one, was the first one home and I was terrified he would be the one to find me.

I prayed to God to just bring me home to Heaven, because life here was just too hard.

I still functioned, though. I passed my classes, barely, and got into a good university. Life got even tougher. I couldn't function in social situations and developed few relationships. The slight support network I did have at home was gone and I was completely on my own. I had to learn how to pay my own bills and function as an adult without much guidance.

I did okay the first couple of years, as I was excited about this new, shiny experience. Then reality set in. And it was hard and bleak.

I became actively suicidal. I had plans, oh, so many plans. I started practicing cutting my wrists. I researched the right ways to do it so I would bleed out. I decided that was too dramatic and would hurt my family too much, so I came up with several, less flashy, plans. I thought maybe I would just go "missing."

Eventually, I came out of what I later realized was a severe depression. I graduated, although it took me five years, and got a job. I hopped from job to job the first few years, and eventually settled down into a job as a typesetter at a print shop.

It was a low stress job, but it required a lot of attention to detail. A LOT. Which I was terrible at. So, I developed strategies to help me. I would proofread things three times and send them back to the customer to proof read. I don't know why, but no one proof reads their own stuff. This worked for a few years. I was able to focus in the beginning, because it was a new, shiny experience. But that didn't last long.

My job was boring. And repetitive. There wasn't much there to capture my attention. I tried to help out in the front office and in the press room to give me enough variety so I could focus, but my boss wanted me in my cubicle/box at all times.

I got in trouble, time and time again, for typos. For small mistakes here and there. For being late. For not following through on an email. For not being good enough. "You're so smart. I don't understand why you can't try harder and do this!"

I was eventually fired after six years. I had given up trying to be good enough, and my boss had given up trying to deal with me. He didn't care that I was trying my hardest. He didn't care that it took all my effort to be sub-par. He didn't want to accommodate me with a proofreader or give me any slack for mistakes.

I was costing him money, so I had to go.

I had gotten my CNA certification, so I started working full time at a nursing home. It felt good to help people, so I decided to go to nursing school because I couldn't pay back my student loans at minimum wage. My husband was footing most of my bills.

I had thought I was stressed the first time I went to college. Hoo, boy.

I came on to allnurses and complained because I couldn't pass nursing school tests. And one of the commenters suggested I get tested for ADHD.

I passed this test, too. With flying colors. Apparently, I have a bad case of ADHD. My doctor was amazed that I had been able to function as well as I had. He immediately started me on meds.

I started out with Ritalin, which was OK. I felt a little more "normal." I could walk into the kitchen and remember what I went in there for, the first time, for the first time in my life. I still couldn't study.

So I started Vyvanse. Big mistake. I became a raging psychopath in my head and a raging witch on the outside. I hit my dogs, I fought with my husband, I wanted to murder people in WalMart and thought about ways to do it. It was awful.

I gave up meds completely until after I graduated, I just tried harder. And passed with B's and C's until I graduated. And my nursing instructors said: "You're so smart. You do so well on the floor. I don't understand why you aren't doing better in class." I couldn't tell them I had ADHD. It wasn't a real disease, after all, according to every one I knew. I didn't trust nurses to be any different.

After that, I tried Adderall. It worked for a couple of hours. I was super nurse! Then I was starving and couldn't focus for the rest of the day. It didn't matter if I took more or not. Apparently, I used up all my focus in that first burst.

Then I started getting dizzy, my heart would race, and my ankles would swell. I would get angry and have outbursts at work. Apparently, stimulants make me nuts and put me into heart failure.

So, no more meds for me.

At this point, I have given up trying harder. I have given up trying to do better. I muddle through my days at work and take the criticism as it comes. My patients thrive, but my charting... well, it takes me longer than most because I have to check everything three times, and I'm sure there are still holes.

I am working now as a traveler/agency nurse, so that I can leave and start a new place before my ADHD gets bad and I start messing up. Each assignment is new and shiny, so I can do it for a little while.

I still have the daily struggle with forgetting where I put my keys, making sure my clothes match, and remembering my lunch. I have backup deodorant in my car and my nurse bag. I have a realtor-type lockbox on my door so I don't lock myself out anymore.

I am not flaky, lazy, or stupid. But I just can't try any harder. And I am OK with that.

This is the best discussion that I have ever seen anywhere on ADHD.

Thank you to ALL who are participating. I have learned some new things here.

Thank you canigraduate for starting this topic and for a title that is really meaningful.

I look forward to continuing this discussion and learning more about myself.

This thread would make excellent research material if anyone ever wanted to do a paper on ADHD....

Amen to both of these!

I have often thought that if they come out with "thought police" then I shall be locked away! Some of the impulsive thoughts I have are downright sociopathic.

I have gone to some very dark places. I have never hurt anyone, but have been in places where questionable events may have occurred or participated in a very hedonistic lifestyle. I still find myself slipping back into that hedonism.

...One person they mentioned talked about going to college and "playing chicken", meaning going into a test completely unprepared and seeing what would happen. Part seeking stimulation, part not wanting to exert effort only to fail.

These dark places were (and still are) very stimulating.

BTW, does anyone know if Glycerine82 finally gave the cat a bath? (from comments page 4) LOL

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BTW, does anyone know if Glycerine82 finally gave the cat a bath? (from comments page 4) LOL

Yes, here it is:

HOW TO WASH A CAT

1. Put both lids of the toilet up and add 1/8 cup of pet shampoo to the water in the bowl...

2. Pick up the cat and soothe him while you carry him towards the bathroom.

3. In one smooth movement put the cat in the toilet and close the lid. You may need to stand on the lid.

4. At this point the cat will self agitate and make ample suds. Never mind the noises that come from the toilet, the cat is actually enjoying this!

5. Flush the toilet three or four times. This provides a 'Power-Wash' and 'Rinse'.

6. Have someone open the front door of your home. Be sure that there are no people between the bathroom and the front door.

7.Stand well back, behind the toilet as far as you can, and quickly lift the lid.

8. The cat will rocket out of the toilet, streak through the bathroom, and run outside where he will dry himself off.

9. Bothe the toilet and the cat will be sparkling clean.

Yours sincerely,

The Dog

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Here's an update for anyone still following:

I tried harder.

I finally went to see a psychiatrist and he started me on Klonopin and Strattera. I guess my ADHD makes me a little anxious. (HA! I already knew that, thanks, Doc.)

It was a relief finally getting to someone who knows enough about the condition to accurately diagnose me without sweeping my problems under the rug.

The best part, honestly, was talking to the medical student who did my intake. She actually listened, without judging. That has never happened before in my life. I liked it, a lot. She was even sympathetic. I nearly cried from the relief.

I found out I am not only inattentive and impulsive, but also hyperactive. I got the full pull. I guess all the fidgeting and interrupting other people to finish their sentences is not normal. Who knew?

And apparently having a hard time waiting in line without wandering off is hyperactive and not inattentive. Weird.

I learned a little more about myself and it was nice. It also put a lot of the dumb things I've done in the past into perspective.

So, with the klonopin on board, I feel less like a loser. I don't have that incipient dread that I'm about to seriously **** something up.

I don't have the dreams where I find out I had a patient the whole shift that I didn't know about. Or the ones where I made a med error and the person decomposed in front of me. Or the ones where I couldn't find anything at work that I needed to do my job and I couldn't leave until I got everything done. Or the ones where my husband left me because he couldn't take being my keeper anymore.

So this is what it feels like to not worry about everything that comes out of my mouth. Not to worry about everything I do or don't do. Not to worry about where I put the **** car keys this time.

This is FREAKING AWESOME.

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Hooray! I read your post twice because it made ME feel so good, so I can only imagine how it makes you feel.

GOOD GOIN'!

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.

I am so glad to read your post. It's such a relief when somebody in a position to help you finally "gets it". Best of luck in this new chapter of your life!

Thank you all, for all of your participation in this thread. It is something special, and it wouldn't have happened without all of you lovely people.

Shout out to banterings, because you put into words a lot of the things I can't bring myself to talk about. Shout out to Viva, because you're just awesome and I am in awe of you.

And, glycerine, bring the cat over and I'll give it a bath.

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Just had to say: Awesome canigraduate!!!!!

Specializes in LTC.

So I've been dealing with some pretty wicked perimenopause sx lately and true to my nature, have been doing some research. ("Some" meaning that I have read the entire Internet...) I have found some interesting info: Perimenopause/menopause makes ADHD WORSE. ....Isn't that just DELIGHTFUL? Just when I thought that I have finally found a groove in which I am haltingly functional WHAM! Guess what? Not so much. I've been hit by a hormonal 2x4 (to borrow from an article that I read) and the semblance of functionality has gone right out the window. Perfect. Just perfect. I guess it's time to make that MD appt....

It's crazy how many similarities your story has with mine..

I too have ADHD-inattentive. I also have a slight tendency to be hyperactive.

Growing up my siblings always laughed at me because I would blurt out amusing thoughts, not purposefully of-course. I always had a high energy and an extremely go-getter attitude. I, and my family, just thought this was my personality. To a degree it was. But it was more-so my ADHD coming through. I too had a hearing test done!!! Whenever I talked to my family and friends I found myself saying "what?" "what?" constantly to clarify what they were saying. Soon enough I learned it was a defense mechanism I developed to allow myself more time to process what the other person was saying - not a hearing impairment.

I reached my "crisis" (i dunno what to call it..) I had just started nursing school. I was severely depressed - this depression was situational - because all of a sudden my coping mechanisms I used for the majority of my childhood weren't working. And my anxiety was MUCH worse than the average nursing student. Soon I learned I had ADHD.

I too tried Vyvanse, it made my heart race, sweat, and gave me diarrhea. Soon after I took Adderall XR. Adderall XR helped me focus tremendously at first. Adderall XR stimulated my sympathetic system drastically though. And after being on it for 6 mos, my body was tired from constantly being SO alert. Also I had no personality and wasn't happy. Since then, I've switched to taking Adderall IR 1x in the morning and 1x in the afternoon. Some days I don't take my afternoon dose and drink iced coffee instead (the coffee helps prevent any withdrawal side effects I may feel and I love caffeine..apparently :p). The Adderall-IR regimen is what I'm doing now. And I too have 'given up' on medication management until graduation because 1. I feel hopeless about managing my ADHD with medication and 2. I don't want to start something new and then stop it, causing withdrawal.

Since I'm nearing graduation now, I've done lots of research about alternative ADHD treatment strategies. I'm considering trying yoga. My mom says she thinks she has ADHD (she was never officially diagnosed) and started yoga now, in her mid-60s. Thius, if my mom enjoys it maybe I will too. I've also read numerous articles about zinc, magnesium, omega 3s, etc. helping with ADHD -- but there is lack of evidence supporting these supplements as an actually treatment. I also visited a locally owned natural foods market where Im from one day and the pharmacist there suggested I try something called "Rainbow Light Busy Brain Release Mini-Tabs" - she said these contain L-theanine and GABA which are supposed to provide a calming relief while supporting focus and clarity. Have you thought of alternative therapies yourself?

It is amazing how many people make false assumptions about ADHD. I've learned to not talk about ADHD with others because not a lot of people can't relate to me or even comprehend with ADHD really is. I don't know if you can necessarily call it ignorance - I just think they have to have ADHD to understand it.

It's so great to hear im not alone. It helps to hear your story, especially since you are a RN. Thank you for sharing this:)

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"...It is amazing how many people make false assumptions about ADHD. I've learned to not talk about ADHD with others because not a lot of people can't relate to me or even comprehend with ADHD really is. I don't know if you can necessarily call it ignorance - I just think they have to have ADHD to understand it..."

Maybe it's my self-consciousness of disclosure or of the label itself, but I get the distinct feeling that most "normal" people don't really believe that an adult can have ADHD. I get the "Yeeeeah...Sure you do" look when I mention to others that I have ADHD. Not all people put off that vibe, for the record, but plenty of others do, including my husband. He is supportive of my many quirks which is nice but he thinks that it's stress that causes my thinking/behavior/coping issues. I have chosen to let him believe what he will because I recognize that I can't make him understand, and that's ok.

For the people I work with, I try to impress upon them that I'm not using ADHD as an excuse for my behaviors and marked lack of a "filter" for things that leap from my mouth, rather, it's the reason that I say/do things that raise eyebrows at times. Fortunately, they are very tolerant of my idiosyncrasies which allows me to just be me, goofiness and all.

(BTW, I went to the MD as I mentioned in a previous post. Feeling MUCH better now. :wacky:)

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People have learned that I am an opinionated, sarcastic person who lives to crack bad jokes. In reality, a healthy part of that comes from my ADHD.

I've developed coping skills, and so while my house is eternally messy, I'm a touch too organized and controlling at work. Which is actually fairly well received at my current job, oddly enough.

I'm also on a few different medications, and my doctor and I are still trying to figure out the ideal regimen. But like many people with ADHD, there are comorbidities that come into play. Too strong a stimulant, and my anxiety ramps up. What works for the anxiety isn't strong enough for the depression. And that all doesn't even touch the chronic pain! Which, luckily, responds well to OTC meds, but...

Don't think my husband knew what he was getting into. :p

Specializes in Med/Surg.

Thanks for sharing. I am married to a man with ADHD, have children with ADHD, and have come to believe that I am an ADHD sufferer myself. Though my family was more stable and my emotional issues less severe than yours, I "get" much of what you have said here. I was considered immature by my grade school teachers, a daydreamer. I was and am disorganized. I lose car keys and the like all the time. I was smart and quickly understood, for instance, the math lesson for the day, so would get bored and read ahead in the book, only to have the teacher call me out for not paying attention. My high school was not very rigorous and I graduated at the top of my class. My test scores were high and I was a National Merit Finalist. Got a good scholarship but hit a wall in college. That was when I began to have real problems with depression. I thought at the time that I just really wasn't all that smart, but I hung in there and graduated with a low B average. I felt as if everyone was disappointed in me. I got a job and muddled through for years before giving up on being good enough. Fortunately I had great support as that company went through hard timed, I lost my job, and went to nursing school. I still struggle at yimed, but things are so much better now. Best of luck to you.