(So glad I stumbled across this website again after almost 6 years! I need to change my username because I am not an aspiring nurse anymore, I have been a nurse for almost 3 years! ?)
Anyway, I really do not want to take this new covid vaccine. I know I can’t be the only one who feels this way. Typically I am not an anti-vaxxer but something about this illness is making me think otherwise. For personal reasons I really do not want to take it when available at my hospital, but I’m afraid it will be mandatory. I am almost considering finding a new job if my hospital forces us all to take it. What a shame because I do like my job and wouldn’t know what else to turn to that isn’t nursing, because chances are most healthcare related places of employment will likely require all employees take it.
I want to use the excuse of it being against my religion but I already took the flu vaccine this year. I have nothing against the flu vaccine but didn’t necessarily want it, but my hospital practically FORCED everyone to take it unless they grant you an exemption. I’m afraid they’ll question me why I took the flu shot but cannot take the covid vaccine.
What do you guys think about this? Will you be taking the vaccine? I just want us to be able to make our own decisions about this. If patients can refuse medications, procedures, and treatments, why can’t healthcare workers do the same? I read in multiple articles it will not be required by the federal government but each state and employer can decide whether or not it will be mandatory.
And forget the $1500 “stimulus check” that may be offered if you take it. All the money in the world would not change my mind about taking the vaccine. I feel as though if you have to bribe people to take it, something is peculiar.
I don’t know why this is bothering me so much. It should be a choice in my opinion. But by telling a few friends about not wanting it I feel judged. I have worked with covid patients multiple times since I am one of the younger nurses who does not have any kids/am pregnant. I feel like week after week I was always chosen to go to the covid section. At first I was mad but now it doesn’t bother me. I am not afraid to be near covid patients. Luckily through all this time I haven’t caught it. I always tell people I’d rather catch it than get this vaccine. That’s how strongly I feel against taking the vaccine. All of my non-nursing who have had covid are covered and thriving. To me catching it isn’t the biggest deal but others have called me selfish because I could be spreading it to others. Why is it looked at as selfish for not wanting to inject something into MY body. #mybodymychoice
Am I thinking about this too much? What would you do?
I took the first vaccine offered, knowing that it took two shots. Now they say I can't have the second shot for 3 months?
Should I have waited and maybe gotten a vaccine that only needs one shot for full protection?
No, you did the right thing. There is no one shot coming down the pipeline quickly enough. Partial immunity is better than no immunity and we don't know the future delivery of vaccines or even if you can take another mRNA vaccine for the 2nd. dose.
This is so far only happening in the UK not sure where you live
That’s what I thought because as I said, I do try to keep up with recent developments. Don’t you think that it would have been helpful if you’d included that fact in your first post? Do you not see that when you make posts like the one you did, you risk increasing people’s anxiety and feelings of distrust?
Most people will automatically assume that you’re speaking of the country that you both are in when you start your post with ”interesting events regarding the delay of the second dose of Pfizer vaccine”.
I took the first vaccine offered, knowing that it took two shots. Now they say I can't have the second shot for 3 months?
Should I have waited and maybe gotten a vaccine that only needs one shot for full protection?
I think you did the right thing. As subee wrote, who knows when or if a one-dose vaccine will be approved. I know that I will take the vaccine the second it’s offered. It was only approved in the EU right around Christmas so I’ll be waiting a little while longer.
I haven’t read anywhere that the second dose is being delayed in the US, and that’s where you are, isn’t it?
I think it's ridiculous that a nurse would have unrealistic expectations that a body of knowledge can develop overnight. Yes, Fauci made a mistake in his comment about masks and I don't think he is willing to come out and say that he wanted every mask available at the time to go to health care workers because the public would have panicked. It could have been said much better. And he has been inaccurate in his number of estimated deaths by the end of 2020 - we are actually over his estimate. Again, he underestimated the stupidity of the American people. We have to do the best with the information we have at the time and getting any vaccine in people will help. If the Trump administration had paid any attention to the pandemic handbook written for just this situation, we would be able to get more vaccine into people more efficiently instead of every state trying to create the expertise for the job on the spot. The wheel has already been invented here. That's why any pandemic should be taken seriously from in the early onset - because there are things we don't know and will just have to wait for the evidence, and especially when the government deliberately ignores and distorts the evidence.
I was fully aware of why the public was being told misinformation and continue to be concerned with misinformation and lack of transparency no matter the reason behind it. It’s a big issue. This nurse doesn’t expect an entire body of knowledge to appear overnight but continues to think independently and find fault on authorities purposeful misinformation and feel the need to talk with others about it.... everyone on here keeps repeating mindlessly the research studies say this, and the research studies say that.. but when the research studies aren’t even aligning with the implementation process and authorities say this is just fine and effective we are *no longer* leaning on research. It’s worth talking about because people are being given misinformation.
Misinformation when they received their first dose with promise of a second dose which would provide substantial immunity and gross misinformation that delaying the second dose by three months is still effective, which is absolutely unproven and research and doctors have adamantly been saying it must be done in three weeks....
and super confused why my response to United Kingdom’s issue with the delay of the vaccination 2nd dose is getting all these negative comments about trump? I think it’s unrelated guys?
I am more concerned about the fact that two weeks ago we were told you MUST get the second dose of the vaccine in 3 weeks or less for it to be effective and all the research shows this and then in the UK for whatever reason legitimate or not ?!?? they had to delay the second vaccination. That’s fine but be transparent and honest!
The worst part of it is that despite doctors speaking out that it is an issue, the authorities are now saying it’s just fine, and overriding doctors and research with opinion. That part is concerning. Just be honest and admit it’s not ideal but overall it is for the greater good. But no, now they are changing the reality of the science and saying it is effective, which is worth looking at and being concerned about in its own right. But if we don’t demand or care about honesty and transparency than yessss.....it’s fine, everything is fine.
That’s what I thought because as I said, I do try to keep up with recent developments. Don’t you think that it would have been helpful if you’d included that fact in your first post? Do you not see that when you make posts like the one you did, you risk increasing people’s anxiety and feelings of distrust?
Most people will automatically assume that you’re speaking of the country that you both are in when you start your post with ”interesting events regarding the delay of the second dose of Pfizer vaccine”.
Good point about not mentioning it, definitely not on purpose, I even went back to check and see because I thought I did mention it was in UK ? honestly not trying to fuel fear but talk about issues and explain why people are skeptical
I think you did the right thing. As subee wrote, who knows when or if a one-dose vaccine will be approved. I know that I will take the vaccine the second it’s offered. It was only approved in the EU right around Christmas so I’ll be waiting a little while longer.
I haven’t read anywhere that the second dose is being delayed in the US, and that’s where you are, isn’t it?
That’s what I thought because as I said, I do try to keep up with recent developments. Don’t you think that it would have been helpful if you’d included that fact in your first post? Do you not see that when you make posts like the one you did, you risk increasing people’s anxiety and feelings of distrust?
Most people will automatically assume that you’re speaking of the country that you both are in when you start your post with ”interesting events regarding the delay of the second dose of Pfizer vaccine”.
Are you not at all bothered or concerned that the authorities are saying that the second dose should be effective three months later? It goes against the research. Doctors in UK are very upset about it....
Please understand
It’s one thing to have to delay the second dose, it’s another to lie and use facts that are not based in the research and tell people it’s fine.
Are you not at all bothered or concerned that the authorities are saying that the second dose should be effective three months later? It goes against the research. Doctors in UK are very upset about it....
Please understand
It’s one thing to have to delay the second dose, it’s another to lie and use facts that are not based in the research and tell people it’s fine.
If you read my post carefully you’ll see that I am a bit concerned.
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I think the the change of the vaccine schedule is partly born from desperation and hoping that getting a first dose to a maximum amount of people will save more lives than fully immunizing a smaller number. But that’s just my guess. And I personally think there is risk involved in this choice. But again, just my opinion.
As far as I am aware, there is nothing magical about a three week interval. If someone is better educated on the topic (vaccines really isn’t my area of expertise), I would appreciate their input. Any way, I’m guessing that it was at least in part chosen for the trial because time was of the essence. Moderna’s is four weeks, isn’t it? They wouldn’t have known what the optimal time interval was in advance. I don’t believe it’s impossible that it is in fact longer than the three weeks chosen for the study. Most two-dose vaccines that I know of have a longer time between them than a couple of weeks.
The problem however is that since three weeks is what was chosen for the trial, that is as far as I know the only interval wehavedata for. Deviating from that schedule is in my opinion a risk. But I do not have the necessary education and knowledge to quantify that risk and I am speculating more than anything. And I really shouldn’t be doing that. So apologies for that. The most obvious risk I see and one that I am slightly more qualified to make, is that it might increase distrust and anxiety, certainly for those who’ve already had their first dose but are now being informed that their appointment for the second dose will be postponed.
If you read my post carefully you’ll see that I am a bit concerned.
As far as I am aware, there is nothing magical about a three week interval. If someone is better educated on the topic (vaccines really isn’t my area of expertise), I would appreciate their input. Any way, I’m guessing that it was at least in part chosen for the trial because time was of the essence. Moderna’s is four weeks, isn’t it? They wouldn’t have known what the optimal time interval was in advance. I don’t believe it’s impossible that it is in fact longer than the three weeks chosen for the study. Most two-dose vaccines that I know of have a longer time between them than a couple of weeks.
The problem however is that since three weeks is what was chosen for the trial, that is as far as I know the only interval wehavedata for. Deviating from that schedule is in my opinion a risk. But I do not have the necessary education and knowledge to quantify that risk and I am speculating more than anything. And I really shouldn’t be doing that. So apologies for that. The most obvious risk I see and one that I am slightly more qualified to make, is that it might increase distrust and anxiety, certainly for those who’ve already had their first dose but are now being informed that their appointment for the second dose will be postponed.
I pretty much second and agree with everything you say, and also agree I’m not an expert!
I however disagree at the last part of your statement. Meaning, I think that the actual changing of facts and the lack of transparency and the authorities overriding doctor and research opinion is what causes fear and stress in people ... not someone pointing out that it is an issue and wanting to talk about it.
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I took the first vaccine offered, knowing that it took two shots. Now they say I can't have the second shot for 3 months?
Should I have waited and maybe gotten a vaccine that only needs one shot for full protection?