I paid 200 dollars for pvt

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I took the nclex this august 2015 and did the pvt, problem is i did it 30mins after my exam, i didnt know about the 24hr rule. They charged me 200 bucks. Is it certain that i have failed?

Pvt worked for me immediately after my exam. There are no 24 hour rule.

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Specializes in Intake, Home Care.

Worked for me, I used am incorrect exp date. I did it to my hearts content bc I knew my exp date was wrong. Everyone in my class that did it and got the good pop up passed....and those that failed, their card was declined

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I took the nclex this august 2015 and did the pvt, problem is i did it 30mins after my exam, i didnt know about the 24hr rule. They charged me 200 bucks. Is it certain that i have failed?

While there is no true "24 hour rule" you should understand that the exam is scored twice. The first scoring is done on site and is what determines when your computer will shut off. The second scoring is done off-site and they don't tell you exactly when that will take place. Remember that Quick Results are available at 48 hours, but some people have received their license numbers at around 24 hours. This means the process of doing the second scoring happens within 24 hours, and certainly by 48 hours.

From what I've seen here, it appears that PVT results flip at around 24 hours, if they flip at all.

The other thing to remember is that the PVT simply takes advantage of the billing system. The system used to be set up in such a way that if a "pass" flag was set, you wouldn't progress to the CC billing screen. Last year they changed things. Now you are required to input your credit card info and then click "submit" to pay for a new exam. If the "pass" flag is set in the system, it knows you do NOT need to take the exam again, so it'll halt processing of payment and you get the "good popup." If it's not set as of the moment you click "submit" then processing is not halted and the system will attempt to collect $200 from your credit card. If the next page that comes up shows any attempt to process payment (confirmation numbers, card declined, etc.) then you likely didn't pass.

Think of the first scoring as simply this: has the examinee done sufficiently well or poorly enough to stop the exam? Yes, a pass/fail flag will be set by the system at this point, but if the second scoring hasn't been done, then the result will not be final. The second scoring determines pass/fail definitively. Given that I've heard of (here of this site) status flips happening not much earlier than 24 hours and people receiving their license numbers at around 24 hours, the second scoring likely takes place right around 24 hours. Thus, that's when you should attempt the PVT if you choose to risk the $200.

If you are in a state that has Quick Results or a BON that posts licenses quickly after an exam, I highly suggest not attempting the PVT and check your BON website frequently for your name to show up and then pay the $8 for the Quick Results after 48 hours if your name hasn't shown up yet.

The danger of the PVT is that if you have failed, and you attempt the PVT at 30 minutes and then at 24 hours (or longer) and you didn't get a status flip, you just paid for 2 attempts ($400) to take the exam. If you did get a flip, you just donated $200 to Pearson Vue without recourse.

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Pvt worked for me immediately after my exam. There are no 24 hour rule.

Ignorance may be bliss.....and sometimes I think it's danged ecstatic.

I know you have been told this before, but as you are insistent on putting a myth up as fact, I have to respond....again. And explain why you are wrong.....again.

The reason people DO NEED TO WAIT 24 hours is because every exam undergoes a QA review AT SOME POINT during the 24 hours following the exam. For those who have the minimum number of questions ONLY, it is a clear-cut pass or a clear-cut fail. Those results aren't going to 'change' after the QA review (unless, of course, it's determined they cheated in which case they fail on what would otherwise be a pass).

For EVERYONE ELSE, the QA review MAY WELL result in a different result than initially indicated. Someone whose test concluded at XX questions, and the initial reading is 'pass' (and the PVT indicates 'pass') MAY WELL find that the QA review negates that.....'flips' the result.....and they FAIL. For those, a 'good pop up' done immediately after the test (or one hour, or two, or five) will end up in a failed exam.

For those whose initial indication was 'fail' (PVT done too early indicates this because the credit card was charged, OR it was attempted to be charged) MAY WELL FIND that after 24 hours, AFTER the QA review is complete, that a 'pass' is determined to be the end result. FOR THOSE people, some of whom actually PAID $200.....they passed in the end.

It's a foolish, foolhardy thing to tell people that they don't need to wait for the finalization of their exam. For those who declare (like you) that "you don't have to wait, it works right after the exam is done", it's ONLY because YOUR result matched your initial PVT indication. NO more, no less. Telling people there's no reason to wait is tantamount to telling them that Russian Roulette is no big deal, YOU didn't get shot and YOU pulled the trigger! Yeah.....except the next guy might well get shot.

MOST of the time, the results don't change. THAT is true. But it DOES HAPPEN sometimes, enough of the time that it's worth telling people to not be stupid and to offer a credit card before the 24 hours has elapsed.

Sure, go ahead and use an empty gift card. NO financial loss possible then. But will getting a 'card declined' message (simply because the card was invalid) REALLY ease anyone's anxiety? Hardly. They now are flipping out that they failed. And while it's possible.....it's not definite. Nothing like the angst caused by believing a stupid game result instead of waiting for official results. :rolleyes:

OP, you probably did fail, the odds would indicate that. But it is NOT definite, not until you get the results from Pearson Vue or your State BoN. With luck, you only lost money and did pass. If not one of the lucky few percent....you will have failed but needed a new registration anyway.

Good luck.

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Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.

Changing your expiration date is not sufficient to prevent a charge. Someone just posted the other day she was charged after only changing the expiration date. I know for a fact it's possible for a charge to go through with a wrong expiration date as I did it once myself while placing a desired online order and hit submit after realizing I transposed the numbers. It went through.

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The danger of the PVT is that if you have failed, and you attempt the PVT at 30 minutes and then at 24 hours (or longer) and you didn't get a status flip, you just paid for 2 attempts ($400) to take the exam. If you did get a flip, you just donated $200 to Pearson Vue without recourse.

Could have saved myself some typing if I'd seen your response first, LOL!

Just wanted to address this part, though: once someone has already paid for another registration, the danger is NOT in having yet another charge (resulting in $400). The 'danger' at that point is that the person will ALWAYS get what is thought of as 'the good pop up'---"Another registration cannot be made at this time"---because they just CREATED another registration. It's not suddenly a 'good pop up'. It's because it's already been paid for, there IS another registration. So the 'danger', if you will, the reason we keep saying to NOT do the PVT once you have paid, isn't because you risk further financial loss. It's because it's meaningless.

Now, those who get the 'good pop up' initially (and therefore haven't paid a dime) should NOT NOT NOT keep doing it because, after all, it's just tempting fate: offer $$ enough times and PV might well take it.

I remember someone who was really stupid about it, kept submitting payment info literally every five, ten, fifteen minutes (to "make sure it stayed a good pop up"). Until the card was charged. And that person DID in fact pass. Just threw two hundred bucks out the window, for being basically too incapable of controlling his own hands to NOT be fleeced!

And then there's a new twist, someone recently reported using a valid card with a changed expiration date and the charge went through. IOW, Pearson Vue took the money anyway (as they are entitled to do, expired date and all). Did she pass? Don't know yet. But the 'failsafe' of using a wrong expiration date isn't such a safe bet anymore, either.

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And JBN beat me to it, LOL, posting while I was still typing....time to log off!

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The PVT needs to die.

I agree. It's a scam, preying on people who are stressed out.

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:facepalm:

Need I say more?

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Worked for me 3 years ago immediately after the test... After reading all of the negativity in this thread, it seems like a completely different perspective... Pvt was the real deal! worked for all of my classmates as well. There were several threads on allnurses with accurate pvt experiences as well!

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$200 for impatience ...

I cant, I just cant ...

lol

It's sickening.

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Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.
Worked for me 3 years ago immediately after the test... After reading all of the negativity in this thread, it seems like a completely different perspective... Pvt was the real deal! worked for all of my classmates as well. There were several threads on allnurses with accurate pvt experiences as well!

And exactly a year ago there was a software update. Previously as soon as it says "delivery successful" which indicated the QC of the results was complete and results delivered to the BoN. Now everyone goes to the credit card page and reliability of the prediction has diminished significantly especially with people submitting multiple times.

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