I don't need any government to tell me if I have their permission to defend myself

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I don't need any government to tell me if I have their permission to defend myself. If I feel threatened, I am going to carry, period. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.  Especially when I worked in homecare and went into some shady neighborhoods. I am 6' 4", 240 lb guy with a great deal of Native AmerIcan blood, myancestry tagged me around 75%. I am told I look mean and people are initially intimidated by me, but I think that is because I can see through them and frankly hate most people.  When 3 crackheads tried to jump me in Detroit, I will just say I kicked the tar out of them and still have a knife that they pulled on me (along with scars on my knuckles from knocking their teeth out). They messed with the wrong guy when they messed with a trained fighter. If they had a gun, I would have been a victim. My ancestors were victims, but I refuse to be one. Having a locked and loaded 44 under my pillow and a 357 within reach helps me sleep better at night. It levels the playing field.  My idea of an endangered species is anyone who comes through my door without my permission. You wanna see your god, try me. I will give you an instant, one way ticket to the resurrection should you enter my abode without my permission and intending me harm. . I don't need any government permission to defend myself. The government has this proven, uncanny ability to destroy everything it gets its hands on, especially healthcare. Minimal or better yet, no government is the best choice, they are about as significant to me as that speck of dog poop that I flung onto my neighbor's yard this evening. I hate them as well, but they don't mess with me. In fact, they seem afraid of me, which is fine. I like it that way.  They had Biden signs on their lawns in the last, stolen election so from that day forward  I knew they were both ignorant and stupid as well.  Having and carrying a nice, warm gun gives me peace of mind.  You whiny, liberal wimps can bellyache all you want, but after you allow yourselves to become victims, know you had a chance not to have put yourself in that predicament. 

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lars said:

What is a stoke, anyways? And what did my opinion about the government and these stupid and illegal laws and the wholesale raping of our once sacred Constitutional Rights and all these never ending rules and hyper regulation  they manage to keep creating have to do with 2 paramedics supposedly smothering someone? No correlation whatsoever. Such a sad reflection and example of our failed educational system. Illiteracy and comprehension problems. American society started to falter when the government intruded into private affairs, and in my opinion was exacerbated with the women's lib movement, so now we have more and more government intrusion and acceptance of deviant and aberrant lifestyle choices, and the collapse is nearly complete. Congratulations. Then real men like myself will have to step in and build it back up from the ash heaps of ruin that the libtards drove it into. 

You mean you were unable to extract my type as "stroke"?  I even gave you total context.  What has the government done to intrude into your ability to carry a gun?  Are you angry because you can't carry it into a school or a courthouse?  Where is it you want to carry it that you can't?  You're not a "real man."  You sound more like an incel stereotype.

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subee said:

You mean you were unable to extract my type as "stroke"?  I even gave you total context.  What has the government done to intrude into your ability to carry a gun?  Are you angry because you can't carry it into a school or a courthouse?  Where is it you want to carry it that you can't?  You're not a "real man."  You sound more like an incel stereotype.

I was thinking ammosexual - but incel might be more accurate.

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toomuchbaloney said:

There certainly has been a bunch of conservative commentary the past few years loudly trying to make that case.  Unfortunately, Antifa seems tame compared to the right wing extremist  threat that's been rising in the era of Trump. Maybe pushing back against fascism isn't a bad idea. 

Really? Like this "ANTIFA" terrorist "idea"? 

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This was a very violent attack, very violent attack,” Schierbaum said. "This wasn't about a public safety training center. This was about anarchy ... and we are addressing that quickly.”

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp said the people involved "chose destruction and vandalism over legitimate protest, yet again demonstrating the radical intent behind their actions.”

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2023-03-06/almost-three-dozen-people-detained-after-violence-at-atlanta-police-training-site

Seems about terroristic to me. 

But but but..........right wing......what? What now? 

These goons and their "right" counterparts are radical political terrorist. 

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La Times:

Almost all of the 23 people arrested are from across the U.S., while one is from Canada and another from France, police said Monday.

Zack Fox headlines Atlanta 'Cop City' protest festival; tension builds

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Something has finally constructed on the grounds of the South River Forest – a stage. Protestors of the site they've dubbed "cop city" threw a two-day free music festival in the area as a part of the "week of action,” a larger protest for those against the city of Atlanta's $90 million Atlanta Public Safety Training Center, which the city council approved to build in 2021....

...The two-day festival was headlined by Zack Fox and members of AWFUL RECORDS, the Atlanta underground hip-hop, R&B and lo-fi collective. Other announced and unannounced performers included Father, Raury, Etheral, Tony Shhnow, Archibald Slim and Mercury....

...The ruckus returned on the second night of the festival. A group of "agitators,” people who urge others to rebel, left the festival around 5:30 p.m. and allegedly began to throw fireworks, Molotov cocktails, large rocks and bricks at police officers, authorities reported. Some of the suspects in the attack arrested were from France, Canada, Massachusetts and New York, Fox News reported....

 

So people came from outside the state to attend a free concert....

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heron said:

Good luck getting a coherent answer. I believe it's all made up, like Fox News and trump's promises. (And tax returns.  And financial reports. And border walls. Etc.)

I agree-- but I have learned over the years there are a small number of people who actually write a hellish feverdream stream-of-consciousness thing and hit the submit button. I like to save time on these by glancing over them rather than those wall of text posts from people who are so upset about something they want it out there as soon as possible. 

So with this one I think there's a slim possibility it's legit, simply because they mentioned Michigan. Otherwise moderate people are driven to the edge simply because Detroit exists. They need to vent their rage more, I guess.

 

 

Specializes in Public Health, TB.
Roitrn said:

Really? Like this "ANTIFA" terrorist "idea"? 

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2023-03-06/almost-three-dozen-people-detained-after-violence-at-atlanta-police-training-site

Seems about terroristic to me. 

But but but..........right wing......what? What now? 

These goons and their "right" counterparts are radical political terrorist. 

What happened to your standard of waiting for a court outcome?

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nursej22 said:

What happened to your standard of waiting for a court outcome?

What about your lack there of? 

It isn't up for debate if this behavior is protected under free speech laws like the FOX defamation case.  Political terrorism is a set law. It really isn't up for debate. 

However these terrorist will have their fair trial. 

Specializes in Public Health, TB.
Roitrn said:

What about your lack there of? 

It isn't up for debate if this behavior is protected under free speech laws like the FOX defamation case.  Political terrorism is a set law. It really isn't up for debate. 

However these terrorist will have their fair trial. 

If I remember correctly, you refuse to condemn the former president's actions leading up to and happening on Jan 6, until he has been found guilty in a court of law. Obstruction of an official proceeding, and conspiracy to defraud the United States is also set law. 

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nursej22 said:

What happened to your standard of waiting for a court outcome?

Standard?

 

Specializes in Public Health, TB.
toomuchbaloney said:

Standard?

 

The poster I was speaking to has said more than once that they are only convinced of guilt if determined in a court of law. 

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nursej22 said:

The poster I was speaking to has said more than once that they are only convinced of guilt if determined in a court of law. 

I was trying to imply sarcasm. 

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nursej22 said:

If I remember correctly, you refuse to condemn the former president's actions leading up to and happening on Jan 6, until he has been found guilty in a court of law. Obstruction of an official proceeding, and conspiracy to defraud the United States is also set law. 

I do not believe I have commented on the former presidents actions.  I could be mistaken. 

However, he has not been charged with any crime. At least 6 people have been charged with domestic terrorism for attacking the police facility in Georga.so its really not the samething. 

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