How many unvaccinated coworkers are you aware of?

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How have you expressed your displeasure about their choice? Are you questioning why they have not been terminated yet?

Our hospital went for the mandate, and will be separating employee as of 10/15.

We have 1 who is applying for a medical exemption. She has had reactions to other routine vaccines and does not receive any annual renewals.

I am glad that we have a very accepting air of personal autonomy on our unit. We have always strived for communication and comradery above any tribal politics. We don't care, vaxxed or no, just be as safe as you can and make the best choice for you.   

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Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.

The best choice for the vast majority of the population is vaccination.  

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On 9/12/2021 at 9:25 PM, hherrn said:

It's their choice.  This country was built on freedom, and now the communists are trying to rob us of the ability to choose.  I personally believe that all this hype about hand washing is being driven by Big Soap.  

And- if handwashing is so effective, why would anybody get a surgical infection even when the surgeon washes their hands?  Huh?  98% of surgical infections happen in an environment in which surgeons HAVE washed their hands.  But MSM hides that fact.  Just a little suspicious......

If you want to wash your hands, that's your choice.  I choose freedom.

Okayyyy….not sure where this post is going.  I actually think basic cleanliness and scrubbing into surgery is one of the most basic forms of ethics in the surgical field.

Working in the surgical field….I know of one surgeon that doesn’t follow basic forms of cleanliness and has the highest rate of post-op infections.

I think this is time for a break from AllNurses with the way this thread is going.

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On 9/13/2021 at 6:03 PM, speedynurse said:

Okayyyy….not sure where this post is going.  I actually think basic cleanliness and scrubbing into surgery is one of the most basic forms of ethics in the surgical field.

Working in the surgical field….I know of one surgeon that doesn’t follow basic forms of cleanliness and has the highest rate of post-op infections.

I think this is time for a break from AllNurses with the way this thread is going.

Hhern forgot to use the sarcasm font. I thought that post was really good. 

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On 9/9/2021 at 1:35 PM, DesiDani said:

I do. It will let the elephant in the room finally be noticed. 

Medical reasons or not, why isn't that person removed from their post or at least placed in a noncontact role. That person can infect someone, or easily get infected by many if they work in a hospital. Sorry, but according to many HERE being unvaccinated is not good in a healthcare scenario. NO EXCEPTION!  Perhaps short term disability would be best for this one coworker.

In condemning the unvaccinated for putting patients at risk, how much vigor does this argument have considering the vaccinated can still carry and spread the virus?  

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/07/30/1022867219/CDC-study-provincetown-delta-vaccinated-breakthrough-mask-guidance

 

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On 9/9/2021 at 1:24 PM, DesiDani said:

How have you expressed your displeasure about their choice? Are you questioning why they have not been terminated

The first question speaks to lateral violence. That  should not be practiced.   

The second question speaks to people not minding their own business. There's an HR department to address one's employment status related to company policy. 

Are you inquiring to learn if people are doing this or looking for people to relate with?

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Don't ask don't tell policy at my work so who knows?

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2 hours ago, jive turkey said:

In condemning the unvaccinated for putting patients at risk, how much vigor does this argument have considering the vaccinated can still carry and spread the virus?  

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/07/30/1022867219/CDC-study-provincetown-delta-vaccinated-breakthrough-mask-guidance

 

Yes they can but the impact is greatly reduced. From your link:

”The good news is that the vaccines continue to be highly effective against the virus in preventing hospitalization and death from COVID-19. For instance, three studies from Canada, Singapore and Scotland have found that the Pfizer vaccine provides more than 90% protection against hospitalization and death.

Indeed, the Provincetown outbreak demonstrates the vaccines' effectiveness.

Alex Morse, town manager of Provincetown, said on Twitter that of the some 900 cases now linked to the cluster, "there have been no deaths, 7 hospitalizations, and the symptoms are largely mild."”

1 hour ago, jive turkey said:
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1 hour ago, jive turkey said:

The first question speaks to lateral violence. That  should not be practiced.   

The second question speaks to people not minding their own business. There's an HR department to address one's employment status related to company policy. 

Are you inquiring to learn if people are doing this or looking for people to relate with?

Is this also your position with nurses who divert?

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On 9/10/2021 at 4:54 PM, DesiDani said:

I know of a few from my unit. They give reasons like I'm taking zinc or the science isn't clear. Funny is that I doubt that they are crazed Republicans, because they are minorities from Hispanic to African Americans. 

A nurse wore a cumbersome papper thing hood and all for the entire shift. I suspect they weren't vaccinated, cause that thing looked like a hot chore.

This is a very biased statement, “crazed republicans”, generalizing those non-compliant with vaccinations by race, re: “Hispanic to African Americans”?  This is inappropriate communication for a nurse and it gives the impression that you may be prejudiced.  Are you prejudiced?  Many of us have biases, and it important to do some soul searching and be aware of it so that we avoid discriminating against others.  This is a professional forum and you may need to be more careful, lest someone recognizes who you are and report you at work for discriminatory views.

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Thanks for the scolding lesson above. Noted.

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6 hours ago, emtb2rn said:

Yes they can but the impact is greatly reduced. From your link:

”The good news is that the vaccines continue to be highly effective against the virus in preventing hospitalization and death from COVID-19. For instance, three studies from Canada, Singapore and Scotland have found that the Pfizer vaccine provides more than 90% protection against hospitalization and death.

Indeed, the Provincetown outbreak demonstrates the vaccines' effectiveness.

Alex Morse, town manager of Provincetown, said on Twitter that of the some 900 cases now linked to the cluster, "there have been no deaths, 7 hospitalizations, and the symptoms are largely mild."”

I hear you. It speaks to the protection afforded to the vaccinated person who has never been infected.  No argument there

I'm referring to chastising people for not vaccinating and blaming them for spreading it when it's not exclusive to them.  

 

6 hours ago, emtb2rn said:

Is this also your position with nurses who divert?

My position as it relates to the OP is another employees vaccination and termination status is nobody's business unless they choose to share. It's nobody's business to "express their displeasure and inquire as to why they haven't been terminated". 

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