I always give over 4-5 minutes so my pts don't get a quick high, some ask for it faster! If a hep lock, I dilute, if in a running IV, I don't dilute. If incompatible with running IV, obviously, dilute, stop IV, saline flush, med, saline flush, and then continue IV. I don't think I have ever given more than 10mg.
The policy for IV morphine where I have clinical is to give 5mg or less undiluted over 1-2 minutes. Over 5mg dilute in at least 5ml of NS and give at 2-3mg per minute. It doesn't hurt to dilute any amount though (as long at the pt can tolerate an extra 5mls) and it doesn't hurt to give it over a longer period of time if you have 5 minutes to push it. I like to give it slowly the first time I give it to a pt to see how they react, then later on I will give it faster.
Most of our post-ops come up with pca pumps - so I just "bolus" a dose from that.
If I'm giving someone ivp, it's usually a "breakthrough pain" scenario (or they have no pcs) and I give it undiluted.
We have different strength pre-filled stocks :: 2 mg/ml, 5 mg/ml and 10 mg/ml (all of these strengths come in 1 ml doses - so I have 2 mg, 5 mg or 10 does per vial/syrette depending on the vial/syrette I choose).
We have similar system for fentanyl and dilaudid (different strengths of course!)
now I have a follow up question:
If you had a choice: do you prefer to give them im or iv?
Cheers
roy fokker said:now i have a follow up quesiton:if you had a choice: do you prefer to give them im or iv?
Absolutely, no question for me: iv. Although I just said that giving them can be hard on the veins, diluting them mitigates that but puncturing someone repeatedly in a major muscle (who's already in pain!), sometimes as often as every one or two hours? Nope.
Chris27229, LPN
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Many nurses where I work have been giving morphine sulfate IV undiluted using the rule of pushing 1mg/minute, so 2 mg would be given over 2 mins. If giving above 2mg always dilute in 5ml of NS so that it isn't inadvertly given it too fast. I was orienting a new grad the other day and we looked this up in a drug book which recommended always diluting in 5ml of ns and giving it over 4-5mins, for dose ranges of 15mg or less. How are you giving morphine IV for pain control?