3.4 gpa-doomed?

ORNurseCOS · May 7, 2015

That's a fine GPA. What really matters is how your TEAS/HESI score match up to your GPA.

Today, everyone has a 4.0 b/c they go to community colleges that are not challenging or cheating is rampant.

The Universities know this, that is why it is important they your test scores line up with your grades from class.

This is direct from the mouth of the person that interviewed me for my program.

Best of luck.

smf0903 · May 7, 2015

Today, everyone has a 4.0 b/c they go to community colleges that are not challenging or cheating is rampant.

That was a pretty obnoxious comment for your interviewer to say :confused: The CC I graduated from was highly competitive, and its students obtain employment rather easily with the college listed on their resumes. We have a very small percentage of students make it through the entire program without having to drop to part-time (for whatever reason) or failing out of the program. Was there cheating? You bet there was. The people who cheated in our class are biding their time until they can take their NCLEX...again. CC does not necessarily equate with easy. (And I know YOU didn't say this, not bashing on you! :) )

203bravo, MSN, APRN · May 7, 2015

Today, everyone has a 4.0 b/c they go to community colleges that are not challenging or cheating is rampant.

This seems to be an overly generalized statement and unfair assumption. BUT I do agree that a 3.4 GPA along with good entrance exam scores are more than sufficient for most programs.

smf0903 · May 7, 2015

I wanted to add (I got sidetracked LOL) to the OP, I had my first college attempt over 20 years ago, left with a whopping 0.68 GPA O.o When I went back for my RN, they looked at that. It also figured in with my current GPA when I applied for the nursing program, which pulled my GPA down to a 2.68 on my application for the program. I got in. So yes, it's absolutely possible to get into a program with less than a 4.0 Good luck to you! :)

RNtobe17 · May 7, 2015

That's a fine GPA. What really matters is how your TEAS/HESI score match up to your GPA.
Today, everyone has a 4.0 b/c they go to community colleges that are not challenging or cheating is rampant.
The Universities know this, that is why it is important they your test scores line up with your grades from class.
This is direct from the mouth of the person that interviewed me for my program.
Best of luck.

EXCUSE ME!!! I go to a community college! I went to a university for 2 years. Been at the cc for 2 1/2 years. I can tell you that the community college is just as hard and some classes harder & as far as cheating, the same rules apply. & it's extremely offensive to me and the teachers that work at community colleges for you to say that. None of my professors would EVER put up with cheating.

One time someone got the test and the school changed every single test. Please think before you say things like that.

Maybe some do those things but I promise there are universities that do it also.

Red Kryptonite · May 7, 2015

Today, everyone has a 4.0 b/c they go to community colleges that are not challenging or cheating is rampant.
The Universities know this, that is why it is important they your test scores line up with your grades from class.
This is direct from the mouth of the person that interviewed me for my program.

You and your interviewer both sound like prejudiced asses. I'm sure the people getting ready to flunk out of my CC LPN program would be interested to hear this viewpoint.

Grade inflation has been an acknowledged problem at the university level for well over a decade, which a basic Google search would have revealed to you.

DreamKeeper68 · May 7, 2015

That is a perfectly fine GPA. If you do well on your entrance exam you should be ok. Schools have a formula for combining your GPA with your test scores. Don't worry.

DreamKeeper68 · May 7, 2015

Today, everyone has a 4.0 b/c they go to community colleges that are not challenging or cheating is rampant.
This is direct from the mouth of the person that interviewed me for my program.

You have definitely opened a can of worms with your comment. I know it was 'told' to you but not everything you hear is worth repeating.

I attend a community college. Most of my professors also teach at the big universities in the area. That comment alone is a big slap in the face. I have never missed class. I study hard. When I have difficulties I go to tutoring. My classes are very challenging. I have been awake past midnight trying to complete assignments. I have cried in frustration because I just couldn't get something.

I earned each and every one of my A's. No one has ever allowed me nor any of my classmates to cheat. Not everyone in my classes earned A's. I chose to attend community college because of the cost and location not because I could not make it at a university. (I graduate high school with a 3.8 GPA) I'm sure others have made the choice for the same reasons.

I suppose there is no cheating in Universities. How fortunate for them. Notice the sarcasm there.

The person who originally made that comment is very judgmental and in my opinion has no place in or near the nursing profession. What else is this person biased on? Race, gender, financial status?

Do you know how your words affect others? You could very well have caused someone who would make a great nurse to give up on their dreams because community college is the only option for them. It is so hurtful when people are all judged on the actions of a few.

A word of advice for you - do not pass along negativity!

HouTx, BSN, MSN, EdD · May 7, 2015

WHOA! According to my esteemed academic colleagues, cheating is certainly not confined to any specific type of school. However, 'grade inflation' is more likely in some schools & among some specific student populations... mostly in situations where there is tremendous pressure from alumni associations / boosters / athletic programs/ etc... for targeted students to "succeed". This is NOT a characteristic of CC's. Some of the most egregious and highly publicized cheating scandals have been associated with well-established college athletic programs and US military academies. I think that's clear evidence that it isn't confined to CC's.

Grade inflation is also a phenomenon in High School - pretty much due to the same set of circumstances. That is certainly the reason that standardized testing is often times given just as much weight as GPA. It removes a lot of 'noise' and subjectivity from admission decisions.

The ability to critically think is a fundamental nursing skill. This means we don't accept rumor, opinions or innuendo as fact. Making broad, sweeping generalizations without supporting evidence is antithetical to critical thinking.

Bbett, MSN, NP · May 7, 2015

LOL oh my gosh that statement. I go to a community college and I have never seen cheating.

I also would like to mention that my community college has the highest nclex scores in the state. I guess perhaps we cheat on that as well. ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚

Wenann · May 7, 2015

Don't mean to sound pompous either but a community college is easier than a university in my experience - I graduated from a top 25 institution for my undergrad and did terrible there 2.74 gpa, and then I attended 5 different community colleges here in Los Angeles (LATTC, WLAC, SMC, LASC, ELAC) to speed up the pre-req process and even doubling up on science courses was a breeze and I have a 4.0 from all those classes... I mean maybe some universities aren't as hard but my undergrad sure wasn't easy compared to these community colleges. Luckily I got into Santa Monica College so that's a nice back-up plan but it was also because I did pretty well on the nln-pax (150). Still currently waiting on some more absn programs to get back to me...