I am trying to feel out if anyone else has declined the Covid vaccine and feeling backlash or tension with other co-workers? I have never heard so much discussion regarding nurse receiving or declining a vaccine in the 12 years I've been a nurse. Not sure why it should even matter but, I am getting a lot of pressure about it. I do not see why I am "crazy " if I made the decision against receiving the vaccine. I also do not understand co-workers pushing the vaccine on me and others, or insisting we are out of our minds. This is coming from management level as well as staff nurses. I am just appalled at the treatment and many of us who have declined the vaccine have kept to ourselves. For me, personally, I made the choice not to get it and I was done at that. It's been a month into our hospital vaccines and people will not just shut up about it.
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17 minutes ago, Daisy Joyce said:
That statement is also correct.
My original assertion was that when I received the measles vaccine a few years ago, I didn’t have to wear a mask afterwards to do everyday tasks and everyday errands.
And as explained before that's because it was a routine immunization and there wasn't an exposure or outbreak...like there is with covid. We are in the middle of a pandemic. We are engaging in everyday tasks and chores but not under everyday circumstances because we are trying to mitigate a dangerous contagion. Why would we treat an ordinary and routine event like we would treat a public health crisis and emergency?
Do you understand how masks work? They are not there to protect you from other people they are there to protect other people from you.
If everyone is wearing a mask then the virus gets caught in the mask and does not get spread. I am keeping this deliberately simple because from what you are writing you have a poor knowledge base.
I wrote the above on page 20 of this thread in reply to comment of yours which cast doubt on your knowledge, and then you write this below;
On 3/4/2021 at 8:38 PM, Jack Peace said:
Whoa, that's just breakthrough science right there! If I am such a risk to others, and I don't wear a mask, then why don't yall just stay home because the risk is too high to leave home. But it's really not about that, is it? Deep down some of you all just love to wear a mask and express to everyone how good of a person you are for doing so. It's a virtue signal , nothing more. Quick, find the studies on virtue signaling in relation to masks...
You have absolutely NO medical knowledge whatsoever. You are certainly not a nurse or any other kind of healthcare provider or you would not have written this nonsense. If you do have any qualifications then tell us what they are.
I for one, have enjoyed not having a cold, flu, sinusitis, otitis, or bronchitis this last year. It has been such a welcome relief, that I plan to continue masking during flu and cold season in the future. I dislike wearing a mask, but I dislike the URIs even more.
Exactly, it is a small bonus. I had flu once when I was about 24. I could not get out of bed for a week. The real thing is horrible. The figures bear out the reduced incidence of flu this year.
"No flu deaths in Scotland this year — for the first time in two decades."
My original assertion was that when I received the measles vaccine a few years ago, I didn’t have to wear a mask afterwards to do everyday tasks and everyday errands.
You do realize that this is the first time in history that a vaccine has been rolled out to combat an active pandemic of the pathogen for which the vaccine is intended? I really hope, as a nurse, you understand the implications of this because your comparison of this to a measles vaccination is disturbing.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
2 minutes ago, GrumpyRN said:
Exactly, it is a small bonus. I had flu once when I was about 24. I could not get out of bed for a week. The real thing is horrible. The figures bear out the reduced incidence of flu this year.
"No flu deaths in Scotland this year — for the first time in two decades."
Baloney, there is a huge difference of treating someone who is acutely ill in the hospital from walking around in public, going to the store, etc. Masks are not needed when in public, because the last time I checked, I didn't see anyone coughing up a lung with an active fever and breathing on a NRB in aisle 4 at the local grocery. This is not difficult to understand. Put your politics away for a minute.
Then how did so many people catch Covid if it isn't community spread? Early on in the pandemic I had to stand in a long line in a grocery store with people who were coughing up sputum with no mask on. More than half of Covid cases are asymptomatic spread. I don't think TMB is inserting politics into science but just the opposite.
Then how did so many people catch Covid if it isn't community spread? Early on in the pandemic I had to stand in a long line in a grocery store with people who were coughing up sputum with no mask on. More than half of Covid cases are asymptomatic spread. I don't think TMB is inserting politics into science but just the opposite.
Coughing up sputum is not asymptomatic spread!! Come on, CRNA, you're better than that!
How can you be so sure that over half the cases are asymptomatic spread? How, in the real world, would you be able to ascertain that? The truth is probably 90+% of respiratory pathogen spread is unable to be traced back to the individual. Seriously, everyone needs to think about this. How can "experts" continually claim that asymptomatic spread is a real problem?? The answer is that's all they have left until people realize that claim is garbage.
And about the lack of influenza deaths for the past year: they are NOT testing for influenza at all in hospitals and clinics. How does flu deaths in U.S. go from average 400-600 per week before March 2020, to suddenly about 10-20 deaths per week every week since March 2020?? Y'all are too smart for your own good.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
16 minutes ago, Jack Peace said:
Coughing up sputum is not asymptomatic spread!! Come on, CRNA, you're better than that!
How can you be so sure that over half the cases are asymptomatic spread? How, in the real world, would you be able to ascertain that? The truth is probably 90+% of respiratory pathogen spread is unable to be traced back to the individual. Seriously, everyone needs to think about this. How can "experts" continually claim that asymptomatic spread is a real problem?? The answer is that's all they have left until people realize that claim is garbage.
And about the lack of influenza deaths for the past year: they are NOT testing for influenza at all in hospitals and clinics. How does flu deaths in U.S. go from average 400-600 per week before March 2020, to suddenly about 10-20 deaths per week every week since March 2020?? Y'all are too smart for your own good.
This is nonsense, completely unrelated to reality. Did you say that you were a health professional?
Coughing up sputum is not asymptomatic spread!! Come on, CRNA, you're better than that!
How can you be so sure that over half the cases are asymptomatic spread? How, in the real world, would you be able to ascertain that? The truth is probably 90+% of respiratory pathogen spread is unable to be traced back to the individual. Seriously, everyone needs to think about this. How can "experts" continually claim that asymptomatic spread is a real problem?? The answer is that's all they have left until people realize that claim is garbage.
And about the lack of influenza deaths for the past year: they are NOT testing for influenza at all in hospitals and clinics. How does flu deaths in U.S. go from average 400-600 per week before March 2020, to suddenly about 10-20 deaths per week every week since March 2020?? Y'all are too smart for your own good.
What are you talking about. You don't believe in asymptomatic carriers? We have tons more people with Covid than we have people sick with Covid in the hospital. We don't have influenze deaths because people stayed at home and wore masks. Why should they test for influenza? We will never know what the true death or morbidity rates are for Covid unless we test. Every country that has conquered this enough to re-open their economies does regular testing. It's why they are able to even be open. If every single person had been tested for Covid, we've increased the demoninator and decreased the percentage of Covid deaths. I'm just smart enough for my own good.
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And as explained before that's because it was a routine immunization and there wasn't an exposure or outbreak...like there is with covid. We are in the middle of a pandemic. We are engaging in everyday tasks and chores but not under everyday circumstances because we are trying to mitigate a dangerous contagion. Why would we treat an ordinary and routine event like we would treat a public health crisis and emergency?