I am trying to feel out if anyone else has declined the Covid vaccine and feeling backlash or tension with other co-workers? I have never heard so much discussion regarding nurse receiving or declining a vaccine in the 12 years I've been a nurse. Not sure why it should even matter but, I am getting a lot of pressure about it. I do not see why I am "crazy " if I made the decision against receiving the vaccine. I also do not understand co-workers pushing the vaccine on me and others, or insisting we are out of our minds. This is coming from management level as well as staff nurses. I am just appalled at the treatment and many of us who have declined the vaccine have kept to ourselves. For me, personally, I made the choice not to get it and I was done at that. It's been a month into our hospital vaccines and people will not just shut up about it.
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On 2/19/2021 at 3:50 PM, hppygr8ful said:
If every person who can be vaccinated is vaccinated then a large part of the population will achieve herd immunity. I am no expert on infectious disease or vaccines but it makes since that if a large part of the population achieves the ability to fight the disease when it's transmitted to them it won't matter if it can still be transmitted.
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Precisely. The quickest path to getting out of this mess is reducing the number of possible hosts through vaccination.
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52 minutes ago, Daisy Joyce said:
The CDC is making no claims that the way to get back to normal is through vaccine.
You still must mask and social distance even after vaccine.
I wonder why we talk about going back to normal. We can't go back. This coronavirus gives no impression that it is going to mutate into a less virulent or concerning threat, we're going to have to live with it from now on. My grandson will be 5 this month, he barely remembers his life before masks when we went to museums and busy playgrounds. His life will be one that includes covid the way ours included polio or influenza. I'm hopeful that it will be safe to send him to school this autumn.
In my view, we need to talk about creating our new normal as we work to achieve herd immunity (every year?) and develop effective treatments for the illnesses associated with infection. Our way out of this is vaccination and reducing number of infections with basic mitigation. Education will help us reduce the number of vaccine refusals that are fear or ignorance based.
I wonder why we talk about going back to normal. We can't go back. This coronavirus gives no impression that it is going to mutate into a less virulent or concerning threat, we're going to have to live with it from now on.
I can certainly understand your angst about this but what sources are you following that are telling you this? The sources I rely on are not at all in line with what you are saying.
Education will help us reduce the number of vaccine refusals that are fear or ignorance based.
I am educated, thank you. And I'm one of the RN's (along with doctors I know and other nurses I know) refusing these experimental vaccines. We don't know the long-term impact, and will not for some time. My point of view is not based on a lack of education or ignorance.
Furthermore, since the vaccine DOES NOT prevent infection or transmission of the virus, please don't bring up it helps with herd immunity which (would matter if the vaccines did prevent transmission).
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57 minutes ago, Wuzzie said:
I can certainly understand your angst about this but what sources are you following that are telling you this? The sources I rely on are not at all in line with what you are saying.
Angst?
This is my opinion based upon what I've read, observed and what I know about vaccine preventable infectious diseases. With which part are you disagreeing? That the virus isn't going away? That vaccination and basic mitigation are likely going to persist in our near future? Is there some evidence that the many variants are less contagious or cause less serious illness?
39 minutes ago, pmabraham said:
I am educated, thank you. And I'm one of the RN's (along with doctors I know and other nurses I know) refusing these experimental vaccines. We don't know the long-term impact, and will not for some time. My point of view is not based on a lack of education or ignorance.
Furthermore, since the vaccine DOES NOT prevent infection or transmission of the virus, please don't bring up it helps with herd immunity which (would matter if the vaccines did prevent transmission).
Thank you.
I'm not certain why you personalized my comment...it certainly doesn't tag you in any way.
This is my opinion based upon what I've read, observed and what I know about vaccine preventable infectious diseases. With which part are you disagreeing? That the virus isn't going away? That vaccination and basic mitigation are likely going to persist in our near future? Is there some evidence that the many variants are less contagious or cause less serious illness?
Geez. Sorry. I was trying to commiserate with you. Never mind.
Did I say something that put you off? I asked what you disagreed with. I questioned the use of angst to describe my opinion. What happened?
I used the term angst because it’s the best description for what most of us are feeling at this time and your post sounded a bit...hopeless.
What I disagree with is the idea that the virus isn’t going to mutate into less of a threat. It will because that’s what viruses do in the presence of wide-spread immunity. Eventually it will not be able to find a host and it will be reduced to the level of a mild to moderate cold. It’s true we might need boosters but even the experts don’t all agree with that. I just do not believe that COVID is going to have a great impact on how we live our lives long term. If mitigating factors are hand-washing and staying home or wearing a mask when we have the sniffles we probably should have been doing that in the first place. It’s sure made a difference in our flu season.
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29 minutes ago, Wuzzie said:
I used the term angst because it’s the best description for what most of us are feeling at this time and your post sounded a bit...hopeless.
What I disagree with is the idea that the virus isn’t going to mutate into less of a threat. It will because that’s what viruses do in the presence of wide-spread immunity. Eventually it will not be able to find a host and it will be reduced to the level of a mild to moderate cold. It’s true we might need boosters but even the experts don’t all agree with that. I just do not believe that COVID is going to have a great impact on how we live our lives long term. If mitigating factors are hand-washing and staying home or wearing a mask when we have the sniffles we probably should have been doing that in the first place. It’s sure made a difference in our flu season.
I don't feel hopeless like I did 6 months ago. There's an aggressive plan for vaccinating now. I feel realistic and hopeful.
Angst is anxiety, dread or fear that is often unfocused or focused upon trivial concerns.
In fact the last novel covid mutated quickly (as covids do) to a much less contagious variant and we did not require vaccination. But that's not what this virus is doing. It's rapidly mutating as expected but has developed into more transmissable variants. One year later and covid is not less dangerous because of mutation, it's arguably more dangerous.
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