I am so mad and tired of this. A student I know, let's call her Jan, has been cheating the whole time. I caught Jan back when we were doing prerequisites, I thought Jan would never get in, but here they are! Another student recently told me she caught Jan cheating, and was about to turn her in, but couldn't get the facts straight and didn't want to look a fool infront of the instructors if she couldn't prove it. Jan even recently admitted to me that the only reason she passed another class is because she cheated. Now to top it off she is going around bragging about her straight As and how hard she has worked! In addition, she brown-noses and schmoozes, and has secured an intern positon via her buddies, while eveyone else let the progrm director place them. I'm wondering if I'm the sucker and the chump here. I've no doubt she's going to get into the post graduate clinical program, they take the top grading applicants! How can this possibly be fair?
Well, in another class, we had 2 jans, on our last exam it was supposed to be open book.. someone told that they were cheating. and guess what the whole class got in trouble and she didn't give us an open book test, plus she had another teacher make up the test, plus we had to go to the testing center to take the exam.. they graduated and passed the neclex, But now here comes the mistakes they will make out in the real world. they will get what's coming to them.........
One time a test "leaked" out to the main page. It was labeled a practice test, with a caption that said "here it is, look quickly". Well, half af the class looked quickly, myslef included. About an hour later the link was gone. WHen I went in to take my test I was suprised to see it was the exact same test.The class was in an uproar, and in the end the test was thrown out. The person who was responsible turned out to be a freind of Jan's. Coincidence? It was all declared a mistake, but very dodgey to me.
Specializes in med/surg, telemetry, IV therapy, mgmt.
look, if she's cheating, she tells you she is cheating, report this to your instructors. that way, the information has been passed on and it is out of your hands. let the instructors deal with it and begin an investigation of their own.
when another student tells you "she caught jan cheating but couldn't get the facts straight and didn't want to look a fool in front of the instructors if she couldn't prove it" your responsibility is to advise that student to simply report what she observed to the instructors. it is like documenting. it is not the responsibility of the person reporting jan to prove anything, but merely to report the facts of what she saw. it will then be the responsibility of the instructors to investigate and prove that jan is a cheater. if you were a manager and supervisor that is what you would expect the staff to do because you cannot be everywhere to observe all that is going on.
in the nursing world you will never use the excuse that because you couldn't medically diagnose a patient's problem it was the reason you didn't call and tell their doctor why they had the onset of new symptoms they had displayed. you will be severely disciplined. and, worse case scenario, if the patient dies because of your failure to notify the doctor you may lose your nursing license and could be sued. that, in essence, is similar to what this other student is doing. she sees cheating but because its her word against someone else's, she's not going to say anything. this is not the behavior of a future leader and manager of patient care. what she should be doing is reporting what she is observing to authority figures. she has a responsibility to do that. it probably says that in your school catalog and may have been mentioned during your orientation. let the authorities handle this. who knows how many other students might have also reported this jan, in confidence, to the nursing department already? the authorities have a duty and responsibility to deal with it because it is part of their job. help them do their job. if you don't do this, it will always remain on your mind.
I think the reality is that nursing instructors have to have an airtight case in order to accuse a student of cheating, and it's next to impossible to get that, so they monitor as best they can, and just leave it at that.
My instructor has started making everyone put their bags along the wall, warned everyone there would be no bathroom breaks (apparently that's when one girl was cheating) and the main girl has been told to sit by herself when taking tests. The girl she sits next to, saw her looking at her test several times.
Specializes in med/surg, telemetry, IV therapy, mgmt.
Ha! Ha! My physiology instructor gave essay exams. A week before the test he handed out the 25 questions that he would chose from. They were a mixture from the textbook, articles from Scientific American that he had also assigned as part of our coursework and lecture material. All you really had to do was work on answering those questions during that week. He chose 10 of them for the final exam. You had to bring a Blue Book to the last class and hand it in. At the final, Blue Books were passed out (so you got a blank one) and you wrote your answers in it. He was a tough instructor, but fair.
I am all about everyone sitting down and taking the test at the same time with a paper and pencil. The instructors don't want to do this because it's time and energy consuming. I told them right away that some students were sharing answers and leaking tests. I imagine their heads would spin if they knew the extent, some of them think highly of these students. I almost feel like they turn a blind eye. The girl who leaked the online test did not get into trouble, even though it was painfully obvious to everyone else this was no simple mistake. I think I am ready to come forward, but alot of that is for my own vindication. My grades are not the best, but I am honest. This person does have the best grades, and is bragging about them, and also about how hard she has worked all term. It's very insulting and makes me angry.
I am so mad and tired of this. A student I know, let's call her Jan, has been cheating the whole time. I caught Jan back when we were doing prerequisites, I thought Jan would never get in, but here they are! Another student recently told me she caught Jan cheating, and was about to turn her in, but couldn't get the facts straight and didn't want to look a fool infront of the instructors if she couldn't prove it. Jan even recently admitted to me that the only reason she passed another class is because she cheated. Now to top it off she is going around bragging about her straight As and how hard she has worked! In addition, she brown-noses and schmoozes, and has secured an intern positon via her buddies, while eveyone else let the progrm director place them. I'm wondering if I'm the sucker and the chump here. I've no doubt she's going to get into the post graduate clinical program, they take the top grading applicants! How can this possibly be fair?
Honey, these people DO NOT bother me at my school. I don't care if they take the exam with their book open.
We have two of them that I know of.
A nursing degree, is going to mean, very, very little, and won't be worth the paper it's written on, unless you pass the NCLEX.
She won't be able to cheat on that.
So, let her gloat...all she wants...the payback will come later when all she has done is cheated herself.
Understand that you cannot turn her in to the instructors over a suspicion, over what a friend has said, or rumor.
Unless you have personally caught her, and can give the instructor the exact way that she did it so they can watch her the next test....you don't have a case against her.
emtb2rn, BSN, RN, EMT-B
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Don't worry about her. Concentrate on your own learning. The NCLEX will finish her off.