I am so mad and tired of this. A student I know, let's call her Jan, has been cheating the whole time. I caught Jan back when we were doing prerequisites, I thought Jan would never get in, but here they are! Another student recently told me she caught Jan cheating, and was about to turn her in, but couldn't get the facts straight and didn't want to look a fool infront of the instructors if she couldn't prove it. Jan even recently admitted to me that the only reason she passed another class is because she cheated. Now to top it off she is going around bragging about her straight As and how hard she has worked! In addition, she brown-noses and schmoozes, and has secured an intern positon via her buddies, while eveyone else let the progrm director place them. I'm wondering if I'm the sucker and the chump here. I've no doubt she's going to get into the post graduate clinical program, they take the top grading applicants! How can this possibly be fair?
I think our school has tried to keep the Jans to a minimum in nursing school. We can only take our pencils and the only approved calculator in. All books, bags, purses, drinks and coats have to go up front. You have to show you have nothing in your pockets. Calculators must be open and you have to show both sides to the instructor on the way in and the way out. You also have to sign a paper stating you will not share the answers or content of the test. Instructors walk around. Tests are not given back, but you can review your test in front of your instructor after the test.
What I don't get is those that actually share the information with their classmates that are taking the test next. Why give them an advantage?
Someday karma will get every last one of those Jans.
What I don't get is those that actually share the information with their classmates that are taking the test next. Why give them an advantage?
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I never understood this either. The people that are helping her are very capable of passing on their own. It's part of the friend package I guess. What gets me as well is that on top of everything else, this Jan is not very likeble, I'm suprised she has friends at all. I think she found people that would help her and glommed onto them. In the past she has even befriended an instructor. I'm talking backyard barbeques and birthday parties.
This isn't advice, but an example of another way of looking at it.
Have I turned in a cheater? Yes, in a heartbeat. Why? Because I don't want them in the same pyxis as me. They've demonstrated they are more than capable of being deceitful.
This only happened once and I thought about it long and hard and it boiled down to this: if I'm aware of cheating and don't report it, I'm part of the lie.
Wow, when I was in a nursing program there was so much cheating going on in the 4 year traditional program. In the 1 and 2 year accelerated program, we had to put our cell phones, coats, purses etc. on the top of a separate test. Cheating is unbelievable for anyone. Its not like we are in grammar school or high school
In one of my classes there were several people who regularly cheated and it was a well known and talked about situation. The instructor caught them, or they were finally turned in by someone, during an exam. All the instructor did was to make the offenders take another exam and that was it. The entire class that discussed the fact that these people cheated regularly were disappointed to see them still get away with it with no real consequences. If all the people who cheated were dismissed from nursing schools around the country, there would be a sizeable number of seats opening up that could be taken by honest students who would go on to be honest nurses. JMHO
There are about 20 Jans in my class...we take online tests and actually had our test review taken away because of it. We do 2 test groups, and there are about 20 minutes between groups where we have no contact with them, YET people from the first group would send a nice mass text to about 10 of their good buddies in the 2nd group about the questions. Someone found out and we lost our test review, so we never know what questions we miss. Our tests are all random questions so people cannot cheat in the test room, but you still hear from these people who say,"oh I had a lucky guess, I really didn't study"....As soon as someone says," Well you couldn't have cheated", they reply with,"OMG why would you say, YOU must cheat or something!" But I've had this same conversation with people in my class, those who really do just "guess" or "cheat" won't pass the NCLEX, if they do, they don't know the basics to do a good job as an RN. There's a girl in my class who honestly believes the apicle pulse is in your right arm. Yet she makes 90's on tests. All of these "people" also say they want to do CRNA, or ICU, or whatever...but to get to CRNA, you have to graduate, get experience, certifications, pass tests, interviews...honeslty they'll bury themselves...I try not to worry about it.
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I think our school has tried to keep the Jans to a minimum in nursing school. We can only take our pencils and the only approved calculator in. All books, bags, purses, drinks and coats have to go up front. You have to show you have nothing in your pockets. Calculators must be open and you have to show both sides to the instructor on the way in and the way out. You also have to sign a paper stating you will not share the answers or content of the test. Instructors walk around. Tests are not given back, but you can review your test in front of your instructor after the test.
What I don't get is those that actually share the information with their classmates that are taking the test next. Why give them an advantage?
Someday karma will get every last one of those Jans.