What shall I do? - page 2
I got yelled at by a Doc for the first time this past week. Here is what happened. We were just out of report and I was headed down the hall to assess patients. Went past a room and the aid told... Read More
Aug 4, '02Occupation: RN - College Health Specialty: Geriatrics/Oncology/Psych/College Health ; Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 6,584; Likes: 70Dayray, I have written up a doc in the past for his tx of a male nurse (and, as in this situation, it was painfully obvious that gender was the only issue.) We have to stand up for our co-workers if we expect any kind of respect for the profession and the hard-working folks who serve in it. Stand up and file the report, and as nimbex said, follow up with your super. If she's doing this to you, who else is she bashing?
We have enough of a shortage without some sexist doctor (male or female) trying to chase off more of the troops!
Good luck. Isn't is a shame that a female would squawk like that when not too many years ago she would have encoutered the same behavior in her attempts to become a doctor. Why on earth would she want to perpetuate those kinds of attitudes?
Aug 4, '02Occupation: Retired Joined: Jul '01; Posts: 4,288; Likes: 31I can think of all sorts of sexist things to say about that Dr. but since I live here I will refrain.
I will suggest to keep and eye on her and start documenting every demeaning comment, every slip up that she has.
And if she comes in without knocking....woah! Let her have it.
And if she forgets to wash her hands before touching your pt. feel free to say "Excuse me Dr. but could you please wash your hand before touching Mrs. Jones, I'd hate for her to get some type of infection from you".
Aug 4, '02Occupation: ob staff nurse high-risk referral center Joined: Apr '01; Posts: 320; Likes: 32Write her up, write her up, write her up.
Apparently this is one doc who has not yet learned DON'T PISS OFF THE NURSES!!!!!! She will, sooner or later, learn this very valuable lesson.
What's the difference between God and a doctor?
God doesn't think he's a doctor!!:roll
Aug 4, '02Joined: Oct '00; Posts: 8,729; Likes: 8,412I think it was totally inappropriate, and would also report the incident. And be ready to "discuss" future inappropriate comments with the doc outside the room- ie stand up for yourself and your profession. We'll all thank you for it.
Aug 4, '02Occupation: LTC Joined: Mar '01; Posts: 3,254; Likes: 53This is one Doc that hasn't learned DON'T PISS ME OFF! I would have been waiting for the pompous fool to come out of that room... Write her up, follow it up and shut her up. Some people just need to be put in their place...Find those "calzones" and then use them!
Aug 4, '02Occupation: FNP Specialty: FNP, peds, epilepsy, mgt., occ. med., ed ; Joined: Mar '02; Posts: 1,821; Likes: 1,563I agree, write it up.
Also, notifying your manager before the doc could complain was a good move!
Aug 4, '02Joined: May '02; Posts: 1,022; Likes: 64Write it up and make sure you hand deliver a copy to Risk Management and the Chief of Staff. Sounds like this idiot doc needs to be set straight on a few facts. What a ******! I would also definetly put in the comment you overheard her say and that the patient then requested a female nurse. In fact, you may even want to mention in your letter that if this moron treats you with anything other than professional courtesy and respect in the future, you will report her to the State Board of Medical Examiners. You may also want to see if your facility has an Obnoxious doc form. I hand deliver to all the people I want to receive it because we have a very large circular file here!!
Good luck and don't take her crap. If you let this slide she'll be up your butt every time you are unfortunate enough to have to deal with her.Last edit by fedupnurse on Aug 4, '02
Aug 4, '02Occupation: Jack of all trades Specialty: 20 year(s) of experience in Med/Surg, Geriatrics ; From: US ; Joined: May '01; Posts: 4,438; Likes: 3,918Here is another vote for writing her up. This person needs to be stopped in her tracks NOW!!! "Damn male nurses" was way over the line and if she is conveying to your patients either directly or indirectly that you are either incompetent or a threat to them, then she is threatening both your reputation and your livelihood. It is obvious that she has a problem with male nurses and I wouldn't be surprised to learn that she has issues with men in general but that is HER problem not yours, and as long as you are performing your duties competently you are under no obligation to go out of your way to "prove" yourself to her! I would also keep my own copies of any documentation I submitted about her and make notes of any further comments and actions by this person. If you let her get away with this, whose to say that she won't be even more aggressive and hostile towards you in the future? Nip this shyt in the bud, right now!
Aug 4, '02Occupation: RN in L&D Joined: Nov '01; Posts: 720; Likes: 185Thanks everyone=)
I'd like to just bite the bullet and right the report. I'm still a little worried though I live in a smaller town and all the doc's are friends. I'm worried about repercussions with other doc's. I get along very well with most of the doctors I work with and would hate to ruin that.
Do you think it would be more appropriate for me to take her aside and talk with her in a professional manor? Or do you think that would make things worse?
I'm pretty sure that my managers would think I was making a big deal out of nothing if I wrote her up. For those of you that are not aware I'm the only male nurse working in OB/GYN. Although, most of my coworkers and managers are very supportive, they still have some reservations about males in OB. Everyone I work with said she was out of line but they seemed to feel she was doing what she thought was best for the patient "Don't worry about her she is just very protective of her patients"
On one hand I see this as a situation that needs to be addressed but I just don't know if this little hospital is ready to deal with this issue. Up until a few years ago male nurses were not allowed in OB. I'm 1 of only 2 male nurses in this town that work in OB.
I have to wonder if things get bad, would they sacrifice me appease the doctor?
Aug 4, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Nov '01; Posts: 1,487; Likes: 70Okay, honestly, just write her up. Seriously. She obviously isn't capable of being 'professional' having proven that by uttering the line, 'damn male nurses.'
Really. Don't waste your breath. Write her up and send many, many copies to many, many higher-ups. She needs to be knocked down a notch.Last edit by shay on Aug 4, '02
Aug 4, '02Occupation: RN/Risk Management Joined: May '02; Posts: 130; Likes: 2If you don't write her up, you should at least pull her aside and talk to her about her inappropriate comments in front of the patient. You could say "Yes, I did forget to knock but what you said to me was totally out of line and I did speak to my supervisor about it, etc." You should warn her that if she does it again you will write her up.
Aug 4, '02Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 608; Likes: 5If you do pull her aside without writing her up or without other official acknowledgement then she can say you said something that you did not...Plz. Put this on paper first!
Aug 7, '02Occupation: Jack of all trades Specialty: 20 year(s) of experience in Med/Surg, Geriatrics ; From: US ; Joined: May '01; Posts: 4,438; Likes: 3,918Be sure to let us know how it turned out!