The Today Show - page 5
Anyone watch this morning? Their medical expert was on giving tips to patients on how to prevent errors while they are in the hospital. One thing she mentioned was that hospitals (nurses especially)... Read More
Sep 21, '06I will do whatever it takes to reduce med errors.........Will administration make that same pledge?
Sep 21, '06Quote from jonear2Excellent point.Anybody else wondering why on earth the Today Show didn't have a nurse on the program to talk about medication errors and ways to prevent them??? No, because we all know that a high priced physician who nevers passes a single med during the day is ssooooo much more qualified to answer those questions. How about a nurse who has done research regarding the topic and perhaps has been published in NJN? You mean there are nurses who do research??? What are these "nursing journals" of which you speak?
Sep 21, '06Just a thought.... you said the Dr. was a surgeon- meaning she wearsin the OR. So how do patients KNOW she's a SURGEON?? Especially if she has to go see a new ER patient after cases and is still in scrubs- I mean really. The hospital I work at has several female surgeons, they wear the same scrubs as the staff- the ones the hosp. provides. I wear my name tag, the doctors do NOT- and patients are forever confusing me w/one particular surgeon-- as IF she'd be at their bedside in the PACU for more than 30 seconds. Puleeze. I've also had surgeons walk into the PACU & not even recognize their patients that they just operated on. What I love is when a doctor walks in to visit a patient wearing scrubs, and the patient in the other bed asks for a bed pan or a pain med, and what does the Dr. say? "I'll go get the nurse." Patients also assume every MALE nurse is a Dr.-- even when we all wore white. I'd say this surgeon needs to look at her own profession-- as they say- "if you spot it you've got it"!Last edit by penguin2 on Sep 21, '06
Sep 21, '06Quote from RGN1Yes, in most hospitals, we must buy/provide our own attire.Do you have to buy your own uniforms in the USA then??? Slightly off topic I know but I'm just curious. Here our hospitals provide them (usually with a small deposit taken from your first paycheck - which you get back when you return them).
A few facilities give regualr employees a set allowance and some departments do provide /uniforms - usually OR, NICU, L&D (hygeine issues). But the vast majority do not reimburse at all.
Sep 21, '06Quote from jahraNurses were so well respected, that they had to stand at attention when MDs came on the floor, were sent home for the crime of wearing pants to work, were paid a pittance, and were expected in some cases to quit when they married. They may have had a good image but the "respect" aspect is debatable.Hi Lisa,
Before the internet and cell phones and all the other
When I was a child and young adult nurses were respected
and the professional uniform was white and a nursing cap.
Nurses worked very hard in those days.
I personally have no problem with all white, though it is not becoming. But I was unable (despite the valiant attempts of my instructors) to keep the cap on, with my thin hair. You could pin it up with a dozen bobbies just to have it go sliding off. Not to mention it is difficult to keep clean. And while I am from a household used to using starch to stiffen linens, doilies and caps, I doubt if many of the modern girls would have the patience to wash the cap and starch it back into proper form.
The issue I have with this is w/people pushing the cap and all white as a way of preventing mistakes. Meanwhile, no one discusses the "elephant in the closet" of the socalled nursing shortage nor the HUGE role that understaffing plays in increased medical/nursing errors.
I guess that the messages is "Let's continue to understaff the floors and let patients be harmed because of it, but if we dress them up really pretty and nursey, no one will want to sue them."Last edit by caroladybelle on Sep 21, '06
Sep 21, '06Quote from bklynbornNever in a million years will I wear an all-white uniform. They're too much of an inconvenience since they have the tendency to become dirty very quickly.She mentioned nurses wearing caps or at least going back to wearing white in order to be distinguished from other hospital staff.
Sep 21, '06What really gets me is the mind set that most of the public has about nursing.
The fact that The Today Show criticizes the way we dress speaks volumes.
Can you imagine someone saying all attorneys should wear bow ties because that looks more professional for them?
When I see some old white guy in a suit walking through our ER.... I have no idea if he is administration, head of security, or a drug rep. Maybe they should wear silly little caps perched on their heads.
Sep 21, '06"When I was a child and young adult nurses were respected
and the professional uniform was white and a nursing cap.
[FONT="Impact"]I too once wore a cap, white hose, white fitted uniform dress. I graduated with my ADN in 1979. We had no choice. I realized quickly that the cap was a symbol of servitude, the caps originated from religious orders & many resemble hats worn by maids. (think French maid!). I worked in Sun City Arizona in the early 80's. It is a retirement community. Once, a patient would not let a nurse touch him because she did not have her "hat" on. She came out, grabbed a paper coffee filter, drew a black line with magic marker around the edge, then stuck it on her head. That was the last day I wore my cap. I realized that a professional did not need a useless cap.
Nurses worked very hard in those days" Well, the patients are more acutely ill now then they were in previous years, so I disagree. I think nurses work harder now, esp with 12 hour shifts that turn into 14 hour shifts.
That's why comfortable shoes (sneakers) & scrubs are popular. Also-consider the skills nurses do now. I remember when only physicians discontinued central lines, & gee now Rn's can put in PICC lines!!!
I've been a nurse for 29 years am now teaching. Students at times wonder why we no longer have capping ceremonies. I remind them they are a new generation of nurses that has more male colleagues and we would like to continue to see nursing reflect all of the rich cultural/ethnic/gender groups of the USA.
Sep 22, '06
great post sailor...Though it's a tough debate on who works harder...probably not a fair one...
but jahara accepts your apology:chuckle
Sep 22, '06Quote from txspadequeen921well said.:yeahthat:I could go to work in a white uniform or go in naked... What difference does it make? What we need is more staffing , better nurse to patient ratios and less paper work ...That will let the nurse have time to think, breath and she might even get to eat during her shift. Now all of America will want their nurse to dig up the hat and white dress while in the hospital because they will feel in danger ....
Sep 22, '06i will never wear all white i graduated 20 yrs ago i didn't have a cap then and i don't want one now.
Sep 22, '06Quote from ElishevaLUV it! I'll order mine anyday! :rollI actually like the idea of the white uniform or some kind of identifier. I worked very hard to become a nurse, and I was always proud to wear the uniform.
Maybe we could all get matching "grillz."
Sep 22, '06I'm not grooving the all white uniforms... but I'm on board with other staff not wearing scrubs, with the exception of those who participate in work that exposes them to body fluids- like phlebotomy and PT.
Luckily, in our hospital, dietary and guest services/patient transp do not wear scrubs. I was a secretary in my unit before becoming a nurse there, and I only wore scrubs 2 times- when I was snowed in and it was the only thing I could change into after working 2 days in the same clothes!