Railroaded at work - page 3
I accepted a job on a PCU. The requirements were simply, willing to train Med Surg RN w/expereince. I have my ACLS and passed their telemetry exam, not just a simple version either, with 96.6%. I... Read More
May 24, '09Joined: Jun '08; Posts: 1,489; Likes: 1,704Quote from comancheshadowYou need to report this to your state Board of Nursing and to JCAHO, also to CMS. You could be liable if you don't report it.Being railroaded seems to be the new way to do people these days. I have been an RN since 1985..and was an LPN for 3 years prior to that. I was hired in February at a small specialty hospital, who advertised a 3000 dollar sign on bonus for RN's, by the interum CNO.. she wanted me to work in the SCU with the vent patients and also cross train to being a house supervisor. Unfortunately, this was overheard by a male nurse who doesn't know how to do the titrated drips required, when they do come up, and didn't even recognize V fib on his ACLS megacode. From the 3rd week of my "so-called" orientation...which was NOT any of an orientation at all...this guy would not come when I needed his help to turn my patients..which with a trach..were not to be turned without two healthcare workers present, for risk of decanulation. He got to blantantly taking longer and longer to come and I timed him at one hour one day...in the meantime..he looks as if he is always so busy, busy..yet he never would chart until his shift was over..to pad his paycheck.. I went to the new CNO when the monitor tech, who seems to have the hots for this guy, had a hissy fit on me one day...saying that this male nurse was 'doing everything".. I'd been orienting someone to the unit who barely spoke English, while trying to save a man who was bleeding out, rapidly..needing a transfusion prior to transport..the monitor tech hadn't told me that the blood bank had called to say the blood was available..but she kept coming in trying to boss me around, with the other nurse there as my witness. Well..the new CNO.. listened to me.. made it sound as if she would be taking care of this problem..after making it clear she was thinking this male nurse was intimidated by my experience being more than his.. and..who had appointed this monitor tech Queen of the unit?... I was not told anything about the resolvement..for a month..but was put out to work on the med surg units without ANY prior orientation to where things were kept or how the flow of the unit went..with total strangers, to work with, in addition... then.. about two weeks ago..I was called in for my evalution..4 days prior to my getting my first installment of my sign on bonus.. I was given an eval that made it clear I wasn't good enough to take out the trash...which is ludicrous...since I was told to orient some Cuban nationals this new CNO had hired, shortly after she came... turns out...she was their HEADHUNTER.... Gee...is this not a direct conflict of interest??? I thought so!.... Yes...this woman railroaded me out of MY job...and was sly enough to have the gutless unit manager write her name on the eval...even though I'd had very little interaction with the manager..She's terrified she's going to lose HER job if she stands up for what's right...in the meantime.. these nurses hired in are taking scab wages, can't speak English well..nor understand it...and patients are at risk... I am not sure they know ANYTHING about nursing...they had to be shown every little thing... there's something wrong with this picture.. This woman doesn't care about the patients obviously...she only is after her own interests..and CASH..... meanwhile... I am searching for a job in an economy that doesn't want to hire someone with experience as it costs more to have that wisdom and knowledge...but it keeps people ALIVE!!!...
May 25, '09Specialty: LTC, MDS, education ; Joined: Apr '08; Posts: 820; Likes: 1,225I am too tired to properly reply to this thread except to say it is a travesty! Makes me wanna
May 25, '09Joined: May '09; Posts: 36; Likes: 44Yes, this is a union hospital. They held their little "we're ready to part ways" meeting without giving me a heads up so that I could invite a union rep. I'm paying union dues.
Some of these comments are giving me courage. I was just laying down because I have to work a night shift (agency/Providence...yeah!). I noticed I was feeling deeply depressed. Then after reading some of these comments (Comancheshadow..OMG!) I'm feeling strong again. Vito...I think you're right. I do expect they will fire me on Tuesday. I was told on the phone last Thursday they would be conducting an investigation and that they didn't want me there when they were investigating. I spoke w/my union rep on Friday, she had no idea they were investigating me. So, I assume they began the investigation without the rep present. I will hold off on response, verbal included. You are so wise.
And just for the record, I never discussed my scores until here, just trying to give some background, I was qualified for that job. I will never, never get mean people. Thank God.
May 25, '09Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 14,165; Likes: 59,209major snipping here:
i still look like i'm in my 30s. its good and bad . it probably helped in getting the job but i think it is a detriment, in a way, on the floor. i have a 47 year old's confidence and give off an aire of self-acceptance. i seems that you have to grovel and eat sh** from some of the nurses in order to fit it. one of my preceptors was arguing that if a qrs comples is >.10, this indicates a conduction block. i tried to tactfully get her to rethink this, "i've always been told it is >.12" or something like that. it was just one thing that got me off on a bad foot with this particular preceptor.
then when i made the transition to nights, my position was a night position, my personal hell began. i was assigned a very pleasant appearing rn, an older woman who also looks suprisingly younger. she is newly divorced and i only mention this because she is probably one of the most miserable people i have ever encountered in my life. when i enthusiastically told her, "i want to do well. it is my hope that a year from now, i will be cross-trained into the icu," her response was..."good luck! i've been here for years and they've never cross trained me." this was said in the most sour tone. and while she looks younger, she has the mannerisms and coloquialisms of a much older person.
its gotten unbearable. the click this woman belongs to has it out for me. all i can say is i've been nice.
does anyone have any such experience. i accept my responsibility here. i would hope for the best in terms of, the little lady's interventions came in time to save her bottom. if not fired i will resign. and i would seek another job in another capacity. i think i'm burned out of floor nursing for now.
please feedback and this is a shortened version of the nasty encounters i've endured in this hospital. don't know why i can't get accepted by the majority of nurses. i'm an idealist and i know most nursing personalities are "guardians" (if you are familiar with those terms). i can't stand petty, grumpy, negative focused people and maybe they sense that in me even though i smile and try to get along. i am a little stand-offish by nature. i don't drink and so have declined a couple of invitations to "go out." a lot of the nurses drink because they talk about it. i don't drink coffee either and that makes me stand out because the night shift all share in various coffees. i'm not unpolite about it. i'm lds and i've shared that. and i have overheard a few unkind stories about missionaries at the door from my preceptor. she talked openly in front of me, knowing i'm lds, about pulling her dog back from going out to be friendly to the boys who showed up at her door and shutting the door in their faces (boys who are far from home, 19-21 y.o.). i've heard another nurse make negative comments about mormons. again, i've been open about being lds only because of the coffee thing, having offered that in declining someone's offer for coffee.
again, very fearful for my license. any feedback that would be helpful is appreciated.
there are several things that bother me about the original post. the poster claims to be a caring and thoughtful person/rn, which she/he might very well be. i don't know the person. interesting, though, to contemplate: what person is going to write in and claim to be an uncaring, thoughtless person? i always have to wonder when someone write that they're being railroaded, fired for no reason or excluded from the cliques because they're just so darned cute and everyone is jealous. the truth really cannot be that one-sided, can it?
several things make me wonder if this person didn't start the new job determined to show everyone what a "whiz" she is. she has a bsn from a good school, good scores on the competency exams, and is a "city girl" slumming in the country. furthermore, she's used to using newer and better equipment than that used at her new place of employment, and she seems to be using that as an excuse for not catching on to the new routine as quickly as expected. i can't help but wonder if her new co-workers caught on to her superior attitude . . . that might make them less than excited about welcoming her to the group. if she's determined to "correct" her preceptors (the thing about the qrs interval), that wouldn't help.
like the new grad we heard from a couple of years ago who was sure that she was meant to rock the er, and that her new colleagues resented her because she was just so much better looking than the rest of them, this poster seems overly preoccupied by everyone's age and looks. (we're told she's 47 and has the confidence that go with being in your late 40s, but that she looks like she's in her 30s.) then she says that her difficulties with her new job stem from starting over at her advanced age, but no one gets it because she looks so much younger. we hear about her transition to the night shift and an "older preceptor who looks, surprisingly younger" and who is so preoccupied with her recent divorce that she's become a miserable human being. once again, the op admits to bragging about her own wonderfulness and how she's going to cross train to the icu. i suspect the preceptor wanted her to concentrate on the job she was actually hired for before worrying about rocking the icu as well! it ain't your age or your looks, honey. and i doubt it's because anyone resents you coming from a newer system in the big city. i suspect it has more to do with your attitude! the "click" this woman is part of may have it in for you now. but it sounds as if they genuinely tried to include you, at least at first, and you spurned their overtures.
people inviting you out for a drink or for coffee has less to do with the consumption of alcohol or caffienated beverages than it does with a desire to get to know you outside of work, or perhaps to include you in their clique. if you self-righteously asserted that you can't participate because you're better than they are or because your religion precludes you consuming the particular beverages they mentioned, you can't have come across as wanting to be a part of the team.
because you're lds, you may not understand how you're coming across when you refuse someone's offer of a drink or coffee. no one is trying to corrupt you -- they're just offering to get together outside of work. and apparently you don't understand how annoying it is -- especially for a night shifter -- to have the doorbell ringing all day and to answer the door and find missionaries attempting to convert you to their religion. if you're trying to sleep and cannot because their ringing of the doorbell is making your dog bark, you don't care that they're teenagers far from home. the fact that they are far from home ringing doorbells to attempt to convert folks who have expressed no interest in their religion was their own choice. defending the missionaries who have interrupted your colleague's sleep is not a good way to get along. if you stay on night shift, you may understand that one day!
you claim to understand why you can't get along with your peers, but you're subtly (or not so subtly) putting them down through your entire post. that's why you can't get along with them. it's not because you're an idealist, or that you look so much younger than you are, or because your nightshift preceptor has a miserable personal life. it's because you're rejecting these folks right and left. if you want to get along with a work group, please look to your own attitudes. resign this job if you think that's best for you. wait to be fired if you need the unemployment. but before you move on to a new job in a new place, please take a careful look at your own attitudes and the way you present yourself. in the end, you are the only person you can change. and whereever you go, you take yourself with you. good luck!
Last edit by Ruby Vee on May 25, '09 : Reason: Snipping for brevity -- a lost cause, I fear!
May 25, '09Specialty: ICU/Critical Care ; Joined: Feb '08; Posts: 4,914; Likes: 7,697Great post, Ruby.
May 25, '09Joined: Jul '07; Posts: 1,458; Likes: 4,077Quote from TurnLeftSideYep, Ruby usually nails it. (Along wih a few others on here who are quite astute)Great post, Ruby.
May 25, '09Joined: Jun '05; Posts: 1,740; Likes: 2,505The above problem makes some things very clear
1. Always carry your own liability insurance
2. Never tell people your religion
3. Never tell people your age
4. Never tell people that you had cooler/newer stuff at your other job
5. Never wait to get fired (resign before then)
If this is the only job where you had trouble fitting in (and you have been okay in many other locations) then the problem is most likely the unit or hospital
If this is a recurring problem then the problem is most likely you.
I have worked in at least 12 different ERs and was the outcast in 2. So I feel I can safely say that it mostly wasn't me. But there is still lessons to be learned from the 2 bad locations and I did take away valuable personal growth.
I find it hard to believe that a nurse with the experience you say you have would continue to work in a unit that deliberately denied you help on any level. This should be reported to risk management. It is not legal. ANd this is why we need personal liability insurance in case we find ourselves stuck in such a situation.
If you choose to resign they will most likely walk you out the door when they get your resignation letter. You need to make a clean, quick break with this place. I find it best to not burn any bridges as you never know who you may end up working with in the future.
May 25, '09Joined: Apr '09; Posts: 84; Likes: 32I am not from the US but are you registered with the ANA? I live in the UK and we have the RCN. this is an organisation that represents nurses. I dont know if you have a similar organisation where you are or maybe its a state one. You do need some representation. It appears that you have been bullied. Its not acceptable. This unit you worked on seems notorious for treating outsiders badly
May 25, '09Joined: Oct '00; Posts: 8,729; Likes: 8,411Right on Ruby.
There's a reason Miss Manners says not to talk religion or politics, (especially if you are disagreeing with your coworkers).
Never tell people how much better it was where you came from, and how you are destined for better things than where you are now.
OP, resign NOW without notice, and go into your next job meek and mild, no matter how you feel you've been wronged.
May 25, '09Joined: Apr '09; Posts: 84; Likes: 32Thats not good advice at all. It sounds like she being blamed.
May 25, '09Occupation: Assessment Nurse Specialty: 39 year(s) of experience in Case Management, Home Health, UM ; Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 2,611; Likes: 940I agree with the others. Give your two-week notice and move on.
Better to resign than be fired.
May 25, '09Specialty: ICU/Critical Care ; Joined: Feb '08; Posts: 4,914; Likes: 7,697Quote from Ellean55Think about it, wouldn't you be rubbed the wrong way if someone new came into your workplace and began bragging about where she got her education from, how much better it was at the last hospital because they had better equipment? Most people would. First impressions are important when starting at any new job. If the OP went into this job with this holier than thou attitude, that things were better at the last hospital, then she was gonna rub people the wrong way. So yeah, I completely agree with what Ruby says as this kind of subject has been brought up before.Thats not good advice at all. It sounds like she being blamed.
Oftentimes instead of looking at one's own behavior and attitude, people who have been fired blame others for their misfortune. Like Ruby's new grad, she was fired and blamed it on being pretty when she gave Coumadin to a patient with an elevated INR and nearly killed the patient. Despite re-education, Ruby's new grad failed to learn from any constructive criticism, which IS dangerous in my opinion. We don't know the OP, where she works and the circumstances of her experience at this place but there are two sides to every story, not the one-sided view we are getting from the OP.Last edit by RN1982 on May 25, '09
May 25, '09Specialty: ICU/Critical Care ; Joined: Feb '08; Posts: 4,914; Likes: 7,697Quote from AngelfireRNYep, Ruby usually nails it. (Along wih a few others on here who are quite astute)