I talked to HR

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I have a nursing manager who is not approachable because he/she knows "everything". I get so tired of letting this person know that something needs attention i.e. protocols are updated in the computer but the paper versions for the chart have not been updated and it's been a month at least. I made an appt and talked to the HR manager and they told me to e-mail this person on each item seperately and cc it to the CNO stating what needed attention and how long it's been going on etc....Well I did it. Surprisingly I got a call from him/her thanking me for bringing to his/her attention the things that had slipped their mind and they were all being taken care of immediately. Hum?

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Good, but watch your back!

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Yeah, tread carefully.

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Oooo....be careful. While I COMPLETELY understand where you are coming from, remember the whole "Thank you for bringing this to my attention" is what they are SUPPOSED to say....it does not neccessarily reflect how they feel.

Unfortunately, in MOST cases (not all), managment is NOT your friend, and they do NOT appreciate being told what needs to be done. Dont make the mistake of thinking they are on your side. What they do appreciate is someone who keeps quiet and does their job.

Keep in mind this is just my opinion.....Im sure your heart is in the right place and you genuinely have good intentions. But once you start going up the chain of command and involve HR....watch out!

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Specializes in Dialysis, Nephrology & Cosmetic Surgery.

I'm not sure I would have done the same, but now you've done it you'll have to ride it out. If you feel you can I would go to the manager and say that you realise his / her job is stressful (believe me it really is) and ask if there is anything you can do to help.

You said you are tired of telling him / her things need attention, he / she is possibly tired of all 50 members of staff coming with problems and not solutions.

Obviously I don't know your manager and I really don't know what you are referring to when you say the protocols need updating, is this something only the manager can do or would it be possible for others to do? It may be that he / she is as bad as you say, or it may simply be that there are things going on behind the scenes you know nothing about and this is causing somethings to be low on the list of prioirties.

Anyway keep us informed of how this pans out.

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Specializes in ER/Trauma, Corrections, Consulting.

Two words. Bad move. You never bite the hand that feeds you and, like it or not, that manager feeds you in a way. If you make a bold move like that, just be prepared for the fallout. I had a verbal confrontation with my manager over her attitude and how she treats me (and everyone) bc she went too far by disrespecting me in front of my MOTHER! Well, I gave it a few days before I went to her so I didn't have the hot head but still...there has been fallout and I deal with it. For instance, she now makes it her job to micromanage every part of my employment. I stay on my p's and q's to avoid her having a reason, but bottom line is I'm in her crosshairs! Hope you're ready fit a bumpy ride...

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Specializes in Home Care.

Its always a bad move to tell a manager that they're not doing their job and then go over their head.

A wiser move would have been to volunteer to assist the manager in updating the paper protocols or whatever else needed updating.

If I were in your shoes I'd start looking for a new job.

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Specializes in A myriad of specialties.
Good, but watch your back!

I agree with the above. Sadly, there REALLY is NO "freedom of speech" in nursing. It's best to keep your mouth shut and smile(however fake it may, or has to, be) on your face at all times. Neither management nor HR wants your input on anything despite what they say! Good chance you'll be retaliated against by one or both...or at the very least, intense scrutiny of every aspect of your job from here on. Just speaking from experience and observation...

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Specializes in Home Care.

This isn't just in nursing, it doesn't matter where you work, be it McDonalds or if you're a sitting in a cubical working for a large or small company.

Anyone who isn't in management is a peon, I know...I've been one for most of my life. LOL

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Do you own any Kevlar body armor?? You've just painted a large "bulls-eye" on your back!!

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Specializes in Cardiology (ITU), Acute Renal/Dialysis.
Two words. Bad move. You never bite the hand that feeds you and, like it or not, that manager feeds you in a way. If you make a bold move like that, just be prepared for the fallout. I had a verbal confrontation with my manager over her attitude and how she treats me (and everyone) bc she went too far by disrespecting me in front of my MOTHER! Well, I gave it a few days before I went to her so I didn't have the hot head but still...there has been fallout and I deal with it. For instance, she now makes it her job to micromanage every part of my employment. I stay on my p's and q's to avoid her having a reason, but bottom line is I'm in her crosshairs! Hope you're ready fit a bumpy ride...

Yeah I had the same with my previous"manager" and also now with new manager & her cronies (the click - who by the way the last manager allowed to flourish!). Too right, keep head down, do job,look for another! :nurse:

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Specializes in Cardiology (ITU), Acute Renal/Dialysis.
I agree with the above. Sadly, there REALLY is NO "freedom of speech" in nursing. It's best to keep your mouth shut and smile(however fake it may, or has to, be) on your face at all times. Neither management nor HR wants your input on anything despite what they say! Good chance you'll be retaliated against by one or both...or at the very least, intense scrutiny of every aspect of your job from here on. Just speaking from experience and observation...

well said but god- is this the caring profession! :mad:

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