How many think that you need to be "PC" in order to get your BSN successfully... - page 2
I was listening to the O'Reilly Factor radio program last night (or was it the night before last sometimes the days run together) and O'Reilly was complaining about a minority guy in one of his... Read More
Nov 22, '02Occupation: L&D RN Joined: Aug '00; Posts: 425; Likes: 13In everyone's professional career, there are times to "play the games" and tiime you can be relaxed and more 'yourself'!
(That's why Nurses' Lounges, parties by nurses and nursing websites are so much more fun than staff meetings! LOL)
Nov 22, '02Occupation: student nurses, BSN students, Joined: Jul '02; Posts: 819; Likes: 27hard to get along with their co-workers. If THAT is what you guys are talking about as constituting "playing the game" then I've got no problems with that perspective. I'm starting to believe that much of this discrimination is in the eye of the beholder. I wonder how many student nurses who feel that they unfairly "got the boot "in reality had other issues that culminated in their failure.
Nov 22, '02Occupation: RN in Nursing Education; House Supervision; Editor RNdex Joined: Mar '02; Posts: 427; Likes: 9Roland, I think you've got that right about other issues. The hard part for the observer is that all you know is what you see and the one side of the story you may hear from the person who feels they were treated unfairly. As in all of life there are at least two sides to the story and the truth is seldom one or the other.
Nov 22, '02Occupation: Patient Education Specialty: 7 year(s) of experience in LDRP; Education ; Joined: Mar '01; Posts: 7,470; Likes: 56I'm convinced most universities, especially Harvard, Yale, Berkeley (Bezerkley) are Marxist cess-pools anyway.
Nov 22, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 2,065; Likes: 48Originally posted by Susy K
I'm convinced most universities, especially Harvard, Yale, Berkeley (Bezerkley) are Marxist cess-pools anyway.
Nov 22, '02Joined: Nov '01; Posts: 765; Likes: 14Susy K you have hit the nail on the head. You must play the game. I learned that a few short time with education beats not doing it in the first place. When you graduate you do what you want. Nursing school taught me to play the game not make waves if I disagree I sucked it up because after I received my license I didn't have to deal with certain individuals weren't pc!
Nov 22, '02Occupation: Patient Education Specialty: 7 year(s) of experience in LDRP; Education ; Joined: Mar '01; Posts: 7,470; Likes: 56Exactly Teshiee.
I always tell people to look at the bigger picture. The point to an education is yes, to get educated, exposed to new ideas, maybe make some influences. But ultimately, you need that passing grade. Chances are, if you learned how to play the game to get that grade, you're pretty intelligent to begin with and probably learned a lot too.
Granted, not all programs are like this; not all classes, etc. But in general, this has been my experience.
Nov 25, '02Occupation: Jack of all trades Specialty: 20 year(s) of experience in Med/Surg, Geriatrics ; From: US ; Joined: May '01; Posts: 4,438; Likes: 3,919I wouldn't know if you have to be PC or not to get your BSN. I was so busy studying and working hard, I forgot to check and see what everyone else was doing.
Nov 25, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 5,673; Likes: 161Can someone be thrown out of nursing school for not having the 'right' or PC attitude? Well, I think some individual instructors WILL play a power trip if they can, and if they don't like you, for whatever reason, you may not pass IF your grades are iffy.
I made it a point to do extremely well in daily and test grades if my instructor and I weren't hitting it off...for PC or any other reason. It just seems the smart thing to do.
Just as an aside: my hubby and I are both political conservatives and my son learned to question and think about political viewpoints from an early age. Unfortunately, he was constantly being shot down at school when he questioned the liberal democratic attitudes many teachers try to instill in the kids. His liberal minded teachers even told him his parents were 'dumb' when he shared with his class his parents voted Republican, and why we believe what we do.
Now THIS is the kind of PC in education that REALLY pizzes me off....our CHILDREN. When I was in school I distinctly remember being challenged to think...now children seem to be indoctrinated....
Those of you who are parents: BEWARE. :stone
Nov 25, '02Occupation: CNA Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 485; Likes: 15I am a senior nursing student. I am also a " white, thin, young, attractive girl, " I feel like I should apologize for that or something. What do looks have to do with anything? I work my ass off, get excellent grades and I am confident that I will make a good nurse. Should I not be taken seriously because I am not overweight or unnattractive or a minority? Something to ponder...