Getting Thrown Under the Bus - page 5

I'm heart-broken. I gave up a lot for this job, hoping that it would be my stepping stone in the department I wanted only to find out that I'm surrounded by a bunch of people who throw their... Read More

  1. by   psu_213
    Very very few people like hearing about complaints others have about their schedules. We all have to work off shifts. We all have to spend time away from family during holidays. We all have to work at times that aren't convenient for our lives. We have all have had schedules that are different than what we were "promised" (i.e., an extra holiday/weekend/etc). Point is, everyone's schedules stink (at one point or another), so we really don't like it when a new employee comes in a goes on and on about the unfairness of their schedule as if they are the only one there who got a bad break on their schedule.

    It is true, someone could have said something to directly to you about the complaining, however you assume that all these people went independently to the manager just to throw you under the bus. Recently I was asked, in confidence, by my manager about what it was like to work with a new tech. I said, honestly, I don't work with that person that often, so I really can't say. However, if that tech were a complainer, I would have no problem telling said manager that if I were asked about it. Perhaps that is how it happened. Perhaps the manager went to some experience nurses about new employees because the NM wants to have an idea of the vibes on the unit.

    Plus, I have this funny feeling, that if a veteran nurse came to you and politely told you not to complain at work, we would have yet another "why do nurses eat their young?" thread.
  2. by   nursejay89
    lol you better READ! seriously though, just realize at the end of the day your first priority is patient care! if it doesnt have any thing to do with patient care, simply turn the other way. going through a similar situation myself.
    Quote from ThePrincessBride
    Care to elaborate? If you have nothing constructive to add, then please stay out of my thread. I'm not in the mood.
  3. by   ArtClassRN
    Quote from ThePrincessBride
    How do you cope with toxic environments, power-hungry managers, and inflexible supervisors who couldn't give a rat's butt about your dilemma? Would I be burning a bridge if I transferred?

    Why are women so cruel to each other? I just want to cry.
    I work on a very difficult Med Surg unit, but the staff is quite close-knit. We do not backstab, throw each other under the bus, or look for opportunities to "tell on" each other. People who transfer from other units can see the difference.

    Some have transferred off my floor because of the workload and acuity to find they don't like the culture on other units as compared to ours.

    Just do your job the best you can until another opportunity opens up.

    Good luck!
  4. by   Altra
    OP, the job of the manager and the schedulers is to staff the unit. They do not have the luxury of saying, well, there's this hole in the schedule, but we're not going to put PrincessBride in that slot because it's inconvenient for her. You cannot run a unit that way.

    So you're being scheduled for less-than-ideal shifts. Might you have to work and then go directly to class? Yep -- lots of people do. Might you have to go to class/clinical/lab and then straight to work? Yep -- lots of people do.

    You can do this, without melodrama and hyperbole. Really.
  5. by   Pudnluv
    Quote from Ruby Vee
    I can agree with most of your post, but not the first point. Not all women are catty, not even MOST women. SOME women are catty, as are some men.

    If you run into one donkeybutt, it's probably that the person is really a donkeybutt. But if you seem to be running into lots and lots of donkeybutts, it's more probably that the donkeybutt is YOU. I would venture that the same is true for "catty" women.
    I think I made my point.
  6. by   TheGooch
    Quote from Mulan
    You need to learn NOW to keep your mouth shut.

    You also need to learn NOW not to trust anyone.

    No matter where you work, there is always going to be someone (or more likely more than one) who is going to run to management. Some management encourages this.

    Work is NOT the place to vent.

    Those people are your co-workers, they are not your friends, they are not your family, they DO NOT care about you.

    Keep your mouth shut and your eyes and ears open.

    Beware those people who say, "I'm your friend." They are probably the biggest back stabbers out there.
    This applies to any work environment.
  7. by   ThePrincessBride
    I see what you are saying and I agree with most of it. I didn't realize that by complaining about my lack of hours (I'm talking eight hours in a two week period) when I was told something else in the interview that was entirely different could be viewed as attacking the unit or not being a team player (forget that I am working Christmas eve and day, Thanksgiving and black friday without any complaints and wanting to work those evenings and weekend shifts). I had tried to resolve the issue before through email and was not getting an response and, combined with the new schedule, I was frustrated. I've heard these women complain about management, ther constant mandating, so I thought they would be understanding, you know?

    The one thing I have learned from this experience is to not trust the coworkers as you never know who is management's pet. New motto: loose lips sink ships.

    Quote from Ruby Vee
    I realize you're not going to LIKE what I have to say, but I'll hope you'll listen because I mean for it to help you, not hurt your feelings.

    If you've been on the job for only two months, it would be difficult for you to have made truly close, personal friendships with your colleagues. So what you were doing was badmouthing the scheduling committee and/or the manager to your brand new co-workers. People almost never take it well when a newbie comes into the workplace and immediately starts complaining (especially about the schedule, when ALL of us have issues with our schedule) to all and sundry. It was a very bad move. As for going to management and "throwing you under the bus", you're new. You're probably still on probation. Management wants to make sure they know about any problems, potential problems or about to develop problems with you before your probation is up, while they can still get rid of you easily. You've just shown them that you aren't a team player.

    When you start a new job, no one knows you. No one knows how hard you'll work (or not), how skilled your care will be, how caring of the patients you'll be, how dependable you'll be, etc. You're an unknown quantity. By complaining about your job AT your job, you've demonstrated that, at the very least, your political awareness and judgement are at a low. Now they have to wonder about the rest.

    You've also insulted all of your new colleagues by insulting the workplace they've tolerated for however long.

    You may be able to repair the damage yet, but it's going to be very hard work. Good luck.
  8. by   Esme12
    Quote from ThePrincessBride
    I see what you are saying and I agree with most of it. I didn't realize that by complaining about my lack of hours (I'm talking eight hours in a two week period) when I was told something else in the interview that was entirely different could be viewed as attacking the unit or not being a team player (forget that I am working Christmas eve and day, Thanksgiving and black friday without any complaints and wanting to work those evenings and weekend shifts). I had tried to resolve the issue before through email and was not getting an response and, combined with the new schedule, I was frustrated. I've heard these women complain about management, ther constant mandating, so I thought they would be understanding, you know?

    The one thing I have learned from this experience is to not trust the coworkers as you never know who is management's pet. New motto: loose lips sink ships.
    a valuable lesson!!!
  9. by   ThePrincessBride
    I'd rather have them come to me about it than run behind my back to management about it. In fact, I would have taken it much better if a veteran nurse had pulled me aside and told me about it.

    But I get what you are saying completely. I'm just of the mindset that if you have a problem with someone, the mature thing to do is go to them first before getting management involved. But now I will forever be thinking about who is could have been.

    Quote from Ruby Vee
    I don't know you, so I'm generalizing here. But often when we experienced nurses have a problem with a student or a new nurse or a new employee and we go to talk to them about it, they don't receive it well. Some people get offended at the slightest hint of negative feedback. Others will hear the negative feedback as positive in some way, even to the point of signing performance improvement plans and STILL not getting it. Please look inside yourself and do some long, hard thinking about whether this could apply to you.
  10. by   ThePrincessBride
    Quote from Ruby Vee
    There are so many things wrong with this snarky post, but again you're demonstrating a lack of maturity and calling into question whether you'd take constructive criticism well. If you behave like this at work, you probably aren't making friends among your colleagues, and rather than "throwing you under the bus," they're communicating with management about a potential problem employee while there's still time to do something about it.
    I didn't mean for it to be snarky but I am not in the mood for bs posts. My hours have been screwed, finals are on the way and worse, I found out that my grandmother has c.diff, sepsis and three types of cancer, so my tolerance for backhanded posts from that poster was at a low.
  11. by   Esme12
    ....((HUGS)) ...I'm sorry....you are going to come across this kind of environment off and on in nursing....recently it seems more on than off...many facilities are cutting hours...and they can promise you the moon and not deliver a single promise and do-workers that will toss you under the bus.

    I never had this expereince in the beginging of my career so when I married and moved it was a shock to me that people behaved this way AND it was tolerated.

    My prayers for you G'ma......((HUGS))
  12. by   shermrn
    You seem like someone who likes to complain, you have an inflated sense of self worth and feel everyone is out to get you. Sometimes life sucks, buck up and deal with it.
  13. by   Esme12
    thread closed for staff review.

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