Charles Cullen and Other Healthcare Serial Killers - page 3

I saw a story last night about Charles Cullen, former RN in New Jersey. Charles had a rough start in life - his father died a few months before he was born. He was a "late in life" baby, the... Read More

  1. by   ProperlySeasoned
    Right now, in the "Popular" side bar on All Nurses, this thread is directly above one that reads - SUMMER 2018 PLANS?. I better not see any of you on the news, school nurses!
  2. by   fibroblast
    What is scary about this situation is that I'm the type to say "No, not that person, never!"

    However, if I ever did suspect anyone, I wouldn't wait a minute to turn them in.
  3. by   Penelope_Pitstop
    Quote from SobreRN
    Have never known anyone who would have been suspected of activities as far out of the norm as these cases. I can see why hospitals think they are in a bind with suspicions though; some nurses jump into every code because they are adrenaline junkies but they are not many. Never been an adrenaline junky myself, if I see 10 people in the room they do not need another body squeezing in.
    Cullen, as I recall, was killing ill, elderly patients so I can see how it went on longer. I am more at a loss over how jones did this to healthy toddlers (or why, mt God what a horrible death!)
    In the department of odditys' @ 15 years ago a Texas NA named Chante Mallard, drinking and driving, hit a homeless man and drove home with her unfortunate victim. She then went on to a 2-3 'party' at her home drinking and using meth, she went into the garage a couple of times and he was embedded in the windshield still alive. She apologized and left him there. @ 3 days later finding him dead she dumped him in a park. As he was homeless she thought they would not put a lot of resources into the cause of death; she was wrong.
    She was charged with murder and I believe is still in prison.
    Mena Suvari played a fictionalized version of her in "Stuck," which was so freaky I couldn't believe it was inspired at all by real events.
  4. by   scnurse83
    My first post since joining, but I am also on a sleuth. I've not been on there for awhile... since LISK has had no new news. The newest arrest of the Golden State Killer and after Reading Michelle's book I've recently been lurking around there again more often in my free time. lol, My husband thinks I'm so crazy. True Crime is defintly a passion of mine as well. I've been meaning to look on here for a thread on any info with forensic nursing. I know It's a relitively new specialty ...
  5. by   Amethya
    I'm reading that book that was recommend by someone here about Charles, it's pretty good!
  6. by   Apple-Core
    The two that stand out to me because I'm British are Beverley Allitt (RN child killer) and Harold Shipman (doctor who killed, or is suspected of killing, over 250 people).

    Netflix has had a show called "Nurses who Kill" that's quite interesting, although not especially well put together (IMO).
  7. by   Here.I.Stand
    Quote from meanmaryjean
    You all seriously need to join me on Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community for all your true crime needs!
    I was just considering checking out Websleuths! I started listening to the podcast on Blog Talk Radio and am hooked.

    Another podcast I listen to did an episode on Beverly Allitt about a year ago. She was a young new grad on the peds unit in an English hospital. She did the poison-and-code thing. She killed I think four children and severely harmed 6 more, plus she attempted with some other kids who fortunately were ok.

    She's serving 13 life sentences, thankfully!

    I can't remember their names, and they were CNAs -- but I've seen them lumped into the angel of death set. It was a lesbian couple who enhanced their sex life by killing defenseless elders.

    These people are all evil...but the idea that the motive was sex makes it seem like a special kind of evil. Jane Toppan too -- she fondled her dying patients.
    Last edit by Here.I.Stand on May 15
  8. by   Knotanoonurse
    After Charles Cullen who killed a number of Patients in PA as well as NJ, the background checks and criminal record review became much more comprehensive in PA. Hospitals in the Lehigh Valley knew he was a wacko,but passed off and didn't tell one another or the BON about him. The SOB was an animal abuser and wife beater. Just a depraved monster!
  9. by   dream'n
    Quote from Here.I.Stand
    I was just considering checking out Websleuths! I started listening to the podcast on Blog Talk Radio and am hooked.

    Another podcast I listen to did an episode on Beverly Allitt about a year ago. She was a young new grad on the peds unit in an English hospital. She did the poison-and-code thing. She killed I think four children and severely harmed 6 more, plus she attempted with some other kids who fortunately were ok.

    She's serving 13 life sentences, thankfully!

    I can't remember their names, and they were CNAs -- but I've seen them lumped into the angel of death set. It was a lesbian couple who enhanced their sex life by killing defenseless elders.

    These people are all evil...but the idea that the motive was sex makes it seem like a special kind of evil. Jane Toppan too -- she fondled her dying patients.
    You're talking about Cathy Woods and Gwen Graham; they were the CNAs that killed nursing home patients in the 80s I believe. Genene Jones from Texas is still in prison, she was due to be released but they have now charged her with more deaths to keep her in incarcerated recently.
    I'm a member over at Websleuths also. They have actually solved multiple cases as many members are crime/legal experts. Not nursing related, but when they helped solve the Sharon Marshall case, it blew my mind and I was so happy for her to finally get peace.
    BTW, my family thinks I'm a bit morbid with my interest in criminal behavior. I would have loved to do forensic psychology.
  10. by   Daisy Joyce
    Many years ago a CNA came up to me and said, "Did you ever notice how many hospice residents die when so-and-so nurse is on? We all call her 'Mercy Nurse'".
    Well, come to think of it, the previous two or three deaths occurred under her watch, but this nurse was unpopular with the CNAs anyway because they felt she worked them too hard.
    I rarely worked with her, so I really couldn't say.
    But I told the CNA that if they really believed that, they had to report their suspicions to the DON.
    I don't know what happened after that, but I kept my own tabs on who was dying and on what shifts, and never saw any further correlation between Mercy Nurse' assignment and deaths of the residents.
  11. by   meanmaryjean
    I would be really interested to know who among you are on WebSleuths and (if you're ok with it) your WS name. The cases that tend to draw me in are those involving missing persons (Charley Project anyone?????) and those involving children. I do enjoy offering a nurse's perspective on cases.

    There is actually a cross-over thread related to the founder of AllNurses over there as well.
  12. by   scnurse83
    I will definitely check that book. Thanks!

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