Forced to get flu shot or wear a mask

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Recently I heard our hospital will be forcing everyone to get a flu shot or they will have to wear a mask for their entire shift. I have had a reaction to it and usually just boost my immune system during flu season and this works well. I was told that even if we have had a reaction in the past and still don't get it, we wear a mask. This does not sit well with many of us at the hospital. Was wondering if others have experienced this and what they did.

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
You're like...3rd.

CL and that horse AV person are 1 and 2.

Where am I? I could get jealous!

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I hate getting a PPD because watching that bubble form under my skin skeeves the heck out of me. *shiver*

I LOVE watching the bubble. It makes me sad when there's not a good bleb.

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It is mandatory at the hospital where I work. I'm not sure what they do if someone refuses, I haven't known anyone that refused the vaccine.

Work pays for mine. Otherwise its $44 at the local clinic plus cost of injection

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I really dislike the use of the word forced. Nobody is going to run up and jam a needle into you or tie a mask on your face. It is simply a condition of employment, which the employer has the right to both set upon hire and change as change is deemed necessary. If you choose not to meet the conditions of employment by either not getting the vaccine or not wearing the mask, then you no longer meet the criteria for continued employment. You can still make the choice to refuse the vaccine and refuse the mask. The employer has the right to provide consequences for it.

Welcome to 1984! George Orwellian healthcare!

I believe the corporate overlords are overreaching re mandated vaccines as well as many other ways to gain control over their workers to keep them in line and maximize profit at all costs so the suits can get their bonuses on the fast track! Just my jaundiced opinion from working in this field over the years!

The real reason for all the mandation of flu vaccines is all about money, they get more govt reimbursement if they can hit 90% vaccination target!

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Specializes in Pediatrics Telemetry CCU ICU.

To play devils advocate here. Yes I believe in herd immunity and vaccination. A condition of employment, fine. BUT if it is a condition of employment, you get the vaccine and say you go into anaphylaxis or get Guillian Barre, or worse ,will your employer pay you worker's compensation? I think not. Does anyone know?

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Specializes in Critical Care.
The plural of anecdote is not evidence.

The CDC itself warns that the flu vaccine can cause guillain barre along with other side effects. That is a fact! If you are the unlucky one it happens to say goodbye to your career and more importantly to the life you knew! You will probably end up disabled, perhaps even to the point of spending the rest of your life in a nursing home! Your only recourse is the govt vaccine compensation board which is very stingy with compensation and takes years to get!

As to those that claim the flu vaccine saves the day, the reality is many times its ineffective. I believe last year it was only about 20%! While the actual efficacy varies, the serious side effects are real!

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Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
You will probably end up disabled, perhaps even to the point of spending the rest of your life in a nursing home!

Most people with GBS have symptoms that last a few weeks.

I believe last year it was only about 20%! While the actual efficacy varies, the serious side effects are real!

It was 47% last year.

Very rare serious side effects exist, sure, but they occur at a rate far less then serious side effects of the illness itself. The risk of a serious adverse effect from a vaccine is 1/100th that of being struck by lightning.

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Specializes in Critical Care.
And the rate is no higher among those who have received the flu vaccine than it is among those who haven't had the vaccine. There was one year, 1976, that there actually was a problem with the flu shot and GBS (which was admittedly tragic), and, although there has never been a connection with the flu shot any other year, some people are still maintaining the myth that there is an ongoing risk.

It is not a myth or there wouldn't be a payouts from the govt vaccine compensation board. Which in itself is a total crock of **** because the govt has given the pharmaceutical companies blanket immunity from any adverse reactions to their vaccines. Injured parties have no recourse to sue for compensation and govt board is woefully inadequate. I believe however this is once again unique to America while other countries such as in Europe still allow injured parties to sue for cause!

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Welcome to 1984! George Orwellian healthcare! \

I believe the corporate overlords are overreaching re mandated vaccines as well as many other ways to gain control over their workers to keep them in line and maximize profit at all costs so the suits can get their bonuses on the fast track! Just my jaundiced opinion from working in this field over the years!

The real reason for all the mandation of flu vaccines is all about money, they get more govt reimbursement if they can hit 90% vaccination target!

Thanks. I've been teetering on the edge of blocking your posts and this one just tipped the scale.

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Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
It is not a myth or there wouldn't be a payouts from the govt vaccine compensation board. Which in itself is a total crock of **** because the govt has given the pharmaceutical companies blanket immunity from any adverse reactions to their vaccines. Injured parties have no recourse to sue for compensation and govt board is woefully inadequate. I believe however this is once again unique to America while other countries such as in Europe still allow injured parties to sue for cause!

What percentage of reports to the VAERS are found to actually be related to vaccines?

What do you think that unfounded litigation cost would be to pharma companies?

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Boost Your Immune System (or Not)

Is "boosting your immune system" for real? Is that possible, and can you really buy it in a bottle?

by Brian Dunning

The immune system is more complex than quantum physics and thermodynamics combined.

Studies of concentration camps (WW II in Europe) showed that when epidemics of contagious diseases,i.e., measles, swept through the camps the inmates survived better than the relatively well fed, well clothed, guards!

These threads boost my blood pressure!

Either they weren't truly exposed to typhus, measles, and other diseases, or the will to live was very, very great. Or they received miracles of survival from God. Or... I don't know what to attribute this to, but it's amazing and wonderful, IMO.

I do not believe in mandatory flu vax, but at least OP has the choice of a mask, not being terminated.

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What percentage of reports to the VAERS are found to actually be related to vaccines?

What do you think that unfounded litigation cost would be to pharma companies?

Hopefully, enough to knock them down once and for all.

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