Fired for refusing??

[Indyrn00]

Thoughts on employer mandatory Flu vaccine...

[wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA]

Department of Neurosurgery, Baylor College of Medicine study titled

"Thimerosal induces DNA breaks, caspase-3 activation, membrane damage, and cell death in cultured human neurons and fibroblasts."

David S. Baskin, Hop Ngo, Vladimir V. Didenko

Department of Neurosurgery, Baylor College of Medicine

Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) on Thimerosal states - "Thimerosal may enter the body through the skin, is toxic, alters genetic material, may be irritating to the eyes, and causes allergic reactions. Effects of exposure may include numbness of extremities, fetal changes, decreased offspring survival, and lung tissue changes."

Wall Street Journal reported:"Officials said that, in addition to genetic material associated with North American swine flu, the strain has gene segments associated with European and Asian swine flu, North American avian flu and human flu."

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_waronscience_argument/

Yeah, thimerosal, no big deal.....

Just because something is naturally occurring doesn't make it safe. I understand that our body has the ability to break it down, but formaldehyde is a neurotoxin, it's an irritant and is a carcinogen.

http://www.hpa.org.uk/webc/HPAwebFile/HPAweb_C/1219908739327

Thimerosal is no big deal especially if you would look at the whole article. Here is a list of vaccines that have thimerosal.

Thimerosal in Vaccines

From your article:

"In our study, the concentrations of thimerosal that induced toxic effects ranged from 1 μM (405 μg/l) to 250 μM (101 mg/l), which is equivalent to the levels of inorganic mercury from 201 μg/l to 50 mg/l. In clinical cases of accidental or intentional usage in high concentrations, thimerosal was administered in doses from 3 mg/kg to several hundred mg/kg (Ball et al., 2001). Such doses resulted in local necrosis at the application site and severe central nervous system and kidney injury.

Much lower concentrations are reached during normal vaccination, when thimerosal-containing vaccines are used. In the case of a full series of vaccinations containing thimerosal, up to 403 μg of thimerosal (equivalent to 200 μg of mercury) are received by 6 months of age (calculated fromBall et al., 2001). This results in the administration of 200/3.81 = 52 μg/kg, 200/5.22 = 38 μg/kg, and 200/6.27 = 32 μg/kg of mercury. These calculations utilize averages of the 5th, 50th, and 95th% weight for females at birth (2.36 kg, 3.23 kg, 3.81 kg) and at 6 months (5.25 kg, 7.21 kg, 8.73 kg) = 3.81 kg, 5.22 kg, 6.27 kg, reported by (Ball et al., 2001) when used in calculating exposure limits for mercury in comparisons of various agencies guidelines." Thimerosal in Vaccines

As for formaldehyde:

• "First, formaldehyde is essential in human metabolism and is required for the synthesis of DNA and amino acids (the building blocks of protein). Therefore, all humans have detectable quantities of natural formaldehyde in their circulation (about 2.5 ug of formaldehyde per ml of blood). Assuming an average weight of a 2-month-old of 5 kg and an average blood volume of 85 ml per kg, the total quantity of formaldehyde found in an infant's circulation would be about 1.1 mg, a value at least five-fold greater than that to which an infant would be exposed in vaccines.
  
  
• Second, quantities of formaldehyde at least 600 fold greater than that contained in vaccines have been given safely to animals."
  Vaccines and Formaldehyde | The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
  

[wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA]

Any substance if you ingest enough of it will be toxic even water and food it doesn't matter.

[jordan1230]

I'm not arguing the effects of vaccines that you get once in your life, I'm talking about the effects of these ingredients overtime.

[wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA]

I'm not arguing the effects of vaccines that you get once in your life, I'm talking about the effects of these ingredients overtime.

And you think that the small amounts of these chemicals in the annual flu vaccine are enough to be toxic when an infant can 20+ vaccines in the first 6 months of life and still not have any toxic effects from these substances.? Your conclusions/justifications don't have any scientific basis. It is just more conspiracy theories.

[caroladybelle, BSN, RN]

Um not quite... Like I've said before it is not right to force someone to inject themselves with something that may or may not be effective. And we can go back and force the semantics. People are being coerced to do something they don't feel comfortable with. When applying for the job this wasn't a requirement. However, everything you listed above was.[/quote']

Actually for many of us, it is a requirement when we applied for the job. We have to pass a physical, which has a mandatory vaccination component to it.

[jordan1230]

Actually for many of us, it is a requirement when we applied for the job. We have to pass a physical, which has a mandatory vaccination component to it.

Well, if it was a requirement prior to employment that would be a different story.

[jordan1230]

And you think that the small amounts of these chemicals in the annual flu vaccine are enough to be toxic when an infant can 20+ vaccines in the first 6 months of life and still not have any toxic effects from these substances.? Your conclusions/justifications don't have any scientific basis. It is just more conspiracy theories.

I think that be consistently exposed to something overtime will have negative effects.

[wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA]

I think that be consistently exposed to something overtime will have negative effects.

We get more exposure on a daily basis from our diets and environment to these chemicals than small amount of chemicals found in vaccines, but somehow vaccines are too much exposure?

[Bortaz, MSN, RN]

But...but...JENNY MCCARTHY sed!

[MrChicagoRN, RN]

Any substance if you ingest enough of it will be toxic even water and food it doesn't matter.

Are you you familiar with this danger?

Facts About Dihydrogen Monoxide

[Sam J.]

But...but...JENNY MCCARTHY sed!

Said e cigarettes are sexy? Yes, she sure did sed that.

[wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA]

Are you you familiar with this danger?

Facts About Dihydrogen Monoxide

Yes, it is sad tragedy that the continued use of this substance has not been banned…We should act now and send out a letter to Jenny McCarthy asking her support in banning this dangerous chemical….