jordan1230

Hi, I was wondering if anyone has attended the nursing program at Herzing, Orlando. Or know anyone who has attended? I'm currently in a nursing program in MA, but my husband has a job opportunity in Florida that he is going to take. Any insight would be appreciated! :) Thanks!

Thank you, but I don't think that my degrees give me any special insight. I only mention it because I was asked. Congratulations on all that you have accomplished. And best of luck this fall.

My only purpose on this board isn't to refute to the importance of flu vaccines, it's also to refute the mandate of it. Education: AS Life Science, BS Psychology, ABSN (in progress) Work: Home Care, Neuro Floor, Primary Care

No, I'm asking you should standard precaution be to wear a mask at all time during flu season? HCW getting the flu shot is about protecting the patient, right? So, if a patient is on airborne precautions, obviously we wouldn't enter without proper PPE.

It's expected to be that effective. But who knows if it actually is. According to the CDC website, the effectiveness can range "widely". Do you think that someone who is vaccinated should enter a patient's room without a mask?

"They noted that the 29% drop in deaths is likely to raise questions, because flu has been estimated to play a role in less than 10% of all winter deaths in seniors. They added, however, that there are no estimates on the proportion of winter deaths from flu in frail elderly people." "It is disconcerting when meta-analyses come to different conclusions," Griffin wrote, adding that the two reports agreed about the lack of evidence for protection for more specific outcomes, including lab-confirmed flu and acute respiratory hospitalizations." "In an editorial published alongside the study, Marie Griffin, MD, MPH, professor of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, wrote that the researchers based the overall "moderate" grade on the consistent reduction in all-cause deaths in the intervention groups. She noted, however, that studies included in the analysis, though important, had some weaknesses, ranging from being underpowered to not evaluating lab-confirmed flu.Griffin pointed out that, after the researchers submitted their study, a Cochrane group updated its meta-analysis on the topic, using three of the same studies and focusing on more specific outcomes, such as lab-confirmed flu. The Cochrane analysis found no evidence to support compulsory vaccination of HCW, she wrote." "For outcomes that matter the most—lab-confirmed flu and flu hospitalizations—the two meta-analyses (the CDC's and Cochrane's) both find low or very low levels of evidence, he said. "We simply don't have good evidence that vaccination of healthcare personnel prevents influenza transmission to patients," "He also cautioned that the meta-analyses focus on nursing homes, which are very different from hospitals, where patient turnover is higher and there are often people in the facility who aren't HCWs. Even with 100% vaccination rates in employees, the roughly 60% protection offered by the vaccine creates a gap in which workers can still get sick and spread the virus to patients, he said." "We really don't have a good grip on the epidemiology of influenza in the healthcare setting,"

I don't expect any vaccine to be 100% effective or 100% safe. I think that there are plenty of other resources other than the beloved CDC, that suggest the flu shot should be a choice, not a mandate.

They are just as effective as the flu shot. The flu shot is only moderately effective, and that is if the strain that is circulating in the community, is the one that is given in the vaccine.

Analysis finds limited evidence for HCW flu vaccination | CIDRAP Clearly there is a huge divide in the medical community. And questioning whether or not this vaccine should be mandated is more than conspiracy talk.

"The modalities discussed here, face masks and UV light, have been largely overlooked. They are modest and far from the cutting edge of science. Nonetheless, they offer the potential of mitigating a potentially uncontrollable pandemic." Disrupting the Transmission of Influenza A: Face Masks and Ultraviolet Light as Control Measures

My lack of understanding? These articles discuss the effectiveness of wearing a mask.

It must be the herd mentality that you are finding so amusing... bahhh

I think that be consistently exposed to something overtime will have negative effects.

Well, if it was a requirement prior to employment that would be a different story.

I'm not arguing the effects of vaccines that you get once in your life, I'm talking about the effects of these ingredients overtime.