expelled for academic dishonesty

[cummings 41]

If a person gets expelled from a nursing program for academic dishonesty, what are the chances fo being accepted into another program. The teacher saw a cell phone on th desk but the screen was locked and blank after passing by she came back and asked the student to open the phone and it showed the student had opened the browser with information for notes relatd to the test.

[ckh23, BSN, RN]

It is wrong to expel a person based on an assumption or "circumstantial evidence". period. WISH ALL OF YOU THE BEST and I hope none of you finds yourself in a situation where you are guilty until proven innocent.

It wasn't circumstantial and it's wasn't wrong for the school to expel this person. This person was caught with information to the test on their phone. That is evidence. Would you think differently if it was on a note card instead of the phone? And you are only hearing one side of the story. For all you know this is not the first time for this person and the school may have more evidence than what has been provided by the OP. This has nothing to do with being innocent or guilty. For all you know it could be a school policy for expulsion just for the suspicion of cheating.

[dudette10, MSN, RN]

I hope none of you finds yourself in a situation where you are guilty until proven innocent.

Funny you should say that. I have been...twice. Once in high school and once in college the first time around at a traditional age. In high school, I was accused of unintentionally injuring someone during physical education, and I received an in-school suspension for a week. Later, it was found out that the girl's injury was pre-existing, but her family wanted to blame someone--someone whose parents were well off. Didn't change the fact that I took my punishment (and so did my parents' financially).

Second was an accusation during college that I stole money out of someone's room. I lost a lot of friends over that (strangely, no one reported it to the school authorities), but I knew I was innocent, so I just found other friends. About a semester later, one of the "lost" friends came up to me and said that the person who accused me had actually stolen it (which explains the lack of reporting). I received an apology from a bunch of people, but I never associated with them again.

It happens...you learn from it...even when you know you didn't do anything wrong.

These were instances with consequences that were emotionally difficult to handle, but I (and my parents) knew I/they could recover from without fighting the wrongful accusations. They were also he said/she said situations with no other proof. There are certainly situations in which I would fight like a dog to prove my innocence, but these weren't it.

[OB-nurse2013, BSN, RN]

This post had nothing to do with being convicted on circumstantial evidence. There didn't seem to be a question of guilt but of if teh student would be able to get into another program after being expelled from cheating. It seems maybe you may be tired of your past argument and are transforming it to this new one that has nothing to do with anything. She cheated she got in trouble and suffered teh consequences the end. Yes, I feel sorry for the person and it probably was just a dumb mistake but thats part of life and they have to be held accountable everyone has an excuse for making stupid decisions and that doesn't make it okay and tehres nothing unjust about getting caught cheating and the consequences that came along with it, and if the rules were bent how would everyone feel?

[emilyBABSNRN]

While I would love to argue with all of you until you are satisfied with your pension for public humiliation, I am not on allnurses.com to make enemies or fulfill a vendetta. Good luck and happy hunting :)

[CrazierThanYou]

Oh the drama...

[Ruby Vee, BSN]

if a person gets expelled from a nursing program for academic dishonesty, what are the chances fo being accepted into another program. the teacher saw a cell phone on th desk but the screen was locked and blank after passing by she came back and asked the student to open the phone and it showed the student had opened the browser with information for notes relatd to the test.

how do you know the screen was locked and blank? did you see it, or did "a person" tell you it was locked and blank? if it was the latter, one thing to think about it that a person with questionable enough moral integrity to actually cheat probably also lacks the moral integrity to tell the truth about it.

if "a person" is you, then you need to take responsibility for your actions. i can almost gaurantee that you're not going to get into another program unless you can speak to what you've done, what you've learned from it, and what you would do differently in the future. self justifying statements like "the screen was locked and blank" while the teacher noted that a browser was open with notes for the test do not indicate that any learning has occurred, nor do they indicate the moral integrity to take responsibility for your actions.

[Seas]

This is ridiculous. The chances are really low to nothing, I think.

[Moogie]

I think this thread needs a time-out for now. Closing it temporarily for staff review.