The way that this Covid vaccine works is quite different from the flu shot. The Covid vax. is not a (dead) bacteria or virus being injected into your body. (With Pfizer & Moderna) RNA (called messenger RNA) that's been coded in a lab goes into your arm. The RNA has instructions, or a code, that gets deposited on the cell. The ribosomes of the cell make a spike protein. It looks similar to the spike protein on the surface of the actual Corona virus. Then your body is supposed to make antibodies (antigens) that goes after the spike protein and neutralize it.
The problem is that this has not been tested in any long-term studies, so, this is more of an experiment. We don't know whether or not the DNA gets permanently changed (possibly bad). We're talking about something that's not supposed to be in your body (made in a lab) that can bind to the surface of your cells and possibly may not be able to be reversed.
Also, since the drug is still being evaluated for long term adverse effects, pregnancy, etc., the FDA would not license the drug, but instead, put out as EUA... Emergency Use Authorization.
India Holds Bill Gates Accountable For His Vaccine Crimes
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By Christina England, BA Hons / October 5, 2014
As Bill Gates faces a lawsuit for the illegal testing of tribal children in India, it appears that his crimes against humanity have finally caught up with him.
A recent report published by Health Impact News has reported that the Gates Foundation has found itself facing a pending lawsuit, due to an investigation that is being carried out by the Supreme Courts of India.
Health Impact News stated:
“While fraud and corruption are revealed on almost a daily basis now in the vaccine industry, the U.S. mainstream media continues to largely ignore such stories. Outside the U.S., however, the vaccine empires are beginning to crumble, and English versions of the news in mainstream media outlets are available via the Internet.
One such country is India, where the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and their vaccine empire are under fire, including a pending lawsuit currently being investigated by the India Supreme Court.” [1]
The Health Impact News article centered largely on a four-page report that was recently published by Economic Times India....
I'm not sure why you feel pasting the entire article makes it more valid. Again, The vaccine was already approved, it was not being "tested" on the women in question, the deaths that occurred in vaccinated women were investigated by the Indian government and were not found to be caused by the vaccine, and the vaccination initiative was overseen by a group called PATH, which is not operated by Bill Gates.
UndecidedDuke is on target! That's what I have been saying about this whole scamdemic , plandemic, whatever. This is where our health and immune systems are built, through nutrition, exercise, sleep, vitamins and minerals. Any virus can kill any person if they are lacking in key vitamins and minerals for sure, hands down.
I'm not clear what you're proposing, are you saying there's no need to mitigate the spread of Covid if we just take supplements, eat better, get more sleep and exercise? What happens to people for whom those really aren't options?
But more importantly, there is no basis for believing that these are reliable protections from Covid, which may in part be because it depends on a functioning immune system to hijack and use against you. There is some evidence that in those with better levels of certain vitamins, mainly Vitamin D, that the risk of illness may be decreased, but only very slightly. The largest study on the subject showed a difference in risk of testing positive for Covid was slightly lower for those who regularly take a variety of nutritional supplements, although the difference was only found in women and was only 0.6%. And that's a study the effect of nutrition on testing positive, another similar sized study that looked at risk of death, actually found the risk of death was slightly higher for those with 'optimal' vitamin D levels.
I don't think anybody is saying nutrition and general health doesn't play a role, it's that it doesn't have the ability to replace mitigation measures.
For the anti vaxxers, you could always try contracting the rhinovirus(common cold). There are theories and small studies postulating that the common cold is so selfish that if you contracted it before the Covid, you will be able to expel the Covid-19 virus.
Autism used to be 1 in 10,000 , now it's estimated at about 1 in 50 . What has changed in society since then? The volume of inoculations is much larger now than anytime in the past.
to answer a previous question, it appears that he does believe vaccines cause autism LOL! sorry jack, but one does not get to establish whether or not they are antivax. it is a label you reveal based on what you “believe” and what u choose to read, and the kind of thinker u are.
You say you believe vaccines cause autism but you are NOT an antivaxxer?
you can say it over and over and over, bur it will never be true. unfortunately that ship has sailed away from reason and it has u on it.
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13 hours ago, Jack Peace said:
Look, I know this profession has alot of folks who do NOT practice what they preach in terms of maintaining healthy lifestyle, eating right, etc. But, for those of us who treat our bodies like a well oiled machine, we know that the foundation for our health is nutrition and exercise. 100%. Mind body spirit all in tune. We understand the reasoning behind how the choices we make today will protect us tomorrow in terms of immune function.
Look, you apparently don't know much about nursing. It's doubtful that you treat your body like a well oiled machine when you treat your intellect like a garbage can. You've shown us that the foundation of your belief is propaganda and pseudoscience.
No, you don't seem to understand or respond to reasoning at all.
Perhaps you are in tune with Q or some other quack but you are not in tune with the science of covid.
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8 hours ago, Jack Peace said:
India Holds Bill Gates Accountable For His Vaccine Crimes
CHRISTINA ENGLAND
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Blah blah blah, blah blah blah.
You read that entire bit of crap and couldn't figure out from just a tiny bit of scrutiny that it's inaccurate and biased nonsense? And so, in your titillated state of mind, you thought it best to copy and paste the entire bit of garbage in a nursing forum? Where people were certain to point out the unbelievable nature of the claims?
I'm not clear what you're proposing, are you saying there's no need to mitigate the spread of Covid if we just take supplements, eat better, get more sleep and exercise? What happens to people for whom those really aren't options?
But more importantly, there is no basis for believing that these are reliable protections from Covid, which may in part be because it depends on a functioning immune system to hijack and use against you. There is some evidence that in those with better levels of certain vitamins, mainly Vitamin D, that the risk of illness may be decreased, but only very slightly. The largest study on the subject showed a difference in risk of testing positive for Covid was slightly lower for those who regularly take a variety of nutritional supplements, although the difference was only found in women and was only 0.6%. And that's a study the effect of nutrition on testing positive, another similar sized study that looked at risk of death, actually found the risk of death was slightly higher for those with 'optimal' vitamin D levels.
I don't think anybody is saying nutrition and general health doesn't play a role, it's that it doesn't have the ability to replace mitigation measures.
I don’t see healthy people dying from Covid. The statistics don’t support that claim. People can sit on here and give individual anecdotes all day long, but those individual stories do not paint the larger picture, which is that healthy individuals are not dying from Covid.
So, I’d disagree, and say that the statistics do support exercise and diet and sleep providing protection against Covid. Again, because the people who do those things, aren’t dying from the virus.
Unfortunately, a large portion of Americans are over the age of 65, and have multiple chronic diseases. Which is a caused by a combination of lack of personal responsibility for ones health, and the government choosing profit over public health
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3 minutes ago, UndecidedDuke16 said:
I don’t see healthy people dying from Covid. The statistics don’t support that claim. People can sit on here and give individual anecdotes all day long, but those individual stories do not paint the larger picture, which is that healthy individuals are not dying from Covid.
So, I’d disagree, and say that the statistics do support exercise and diet and sleep providing protection against Covid. Again, because the people who do those things, aren’t dying from the virus.
Unfortunately, a large portion of Americans are over the age of 65, and have multiple chronic diseases. Which is a caused by a combination of lack of personal responsibility for ones health, and the government choosing profit over public health
That's just nonsense...just because you dismiss the illness and deaths in otherwise healthy individuals doesn't mean that it doesn't occur or is somehow acceptable on a societal level.
Unfortunately, you represent an alarmingly large segment of the population overcome by conspiracies, propaganda and pseudoscience. Arrogant ignorance is damn near a simultaneous epidemic in this country right now.
That's just nonsense...just because you dismiss the illness and deaths in otherwise healthy individuals doesn't mean that it doesn't occur or is somehow acceptable on a societal level.
Unfortunately, you represent an alarmingly large segment of the population overcome by conspiracies, propaganda and pseudoscience. Arrogant ignorance is damn near a simultaneous epidemic in this country right now.
How is it nonsense? I will pull the data over from the CDC website. What exactly about my statements is nonsense? I am not saying that absolutely zero deaths are occurring in young or healthy individuals. I am not dismissing the illness entirely. I am dismissing the belief that covid is as severe as the government and main stream media has been reporting it to be for the last year and a half.
Why are Covid deaths so extremely not acceptable, but the year over year increase in heart disease, diabetes, mental illness, and drug overdoses, which have all increased dramatically during Covid by the way, are accepted as the norm?
Maybe there is a reason for such a large portion of the public refusing to accept the Covid narrative. People are realizing that 99% of persons who contract Covid recover without medical intervention, and that there is not stacks of dead bodies being refrigerated in every hospital around the country, which is what the main stream media has led people to believe is happening all over the world.
Newsflash. It’s not.
Covid probably also wouldn’t have been as big of an issue or topic of discussion had politicians not taken it as an opportunity for political gain.
How is it nonsense? I will pull the data over from the CDC website. What exactly about my statements is nonsense? I am not saying that absolutely zero deaths are occurring in young or healthy individuals. I am not dismissing the illness entirely. I am dismissing the belief that covid is as severe as the government and main stream media has been reporting it to be for the last year and a half.
Why are Covid deaths so extremely not acceptable, but the year over year increase in heart disease, diabetes, mental illness, and drug overdoses, which have all increased dramatically during Covid by the way, are accepted as the norm?
Maybe there is a reason for such a large portion of the public refusing to accept the Covid narrative. People are realizing that 99% of persons who contract Covid recover without medical intervention, and that there is not stacks of dead bodies being refrigerated in every hospital around the country, which is what the main stream media has led people to believe is happening all over the world.
Newsflash. It’s not.
Covid probably also wouldn’t have been as big of an issue or topic of discussion had politicians not taken it as an opportunity for political gain.
This is so disrespectful to all of us that have battled covid for the last year. Yeah, I saw healthy people die. I saw the supposed “covid recovered” die. I saw families half wiped out. And just because somebody doesn’t die, doesn’t mean they don’t have life long consequences like trachs and pegs and being on oxygen forever. Healthy people. Tell your theory to a healthy 40 something nurse that needed a double lung transplant from covid. She’s alive. But now with a whole different life.
I’m a healthy person. I eat well, workout, and I’m maybe overweight by 10lbs. I had covid last Summer. I still have terrible headaches weekly. My joints are still inflamed. I maybe used to get a headache once a month. Now it’s at least once a week and it’s debilitating. The CEO of Texas Roadhouse just committed suicide from the debilitating ringing in his ears from covid. He was healthy and recovered.
Stop spewing your ridiculous stats that mean very little. This virus isn’t just about a “death number”. So many people are disabled now and can’t live their lives like they once did. Healthy people.
Look, I know this profession has alot of folks who do NOT practice what they preach in terms of maintaining healthy lifestyle, eating right, etc. But, for those of us who treat our bodies like a well oiled machine, we know that the foundation for our health is nutrition and exercise. 100%. Mind body spirit all in tune. We understand the reasoning behind how the choices we make today will protect us tomorrow in terms of immune function.
Look, you apparently don't know much about nursing. It's doubtful that you treat your body like a well oiled machine when you treat your intellect like a garbage can. You've shown us that the foundation of your belief is propaganda and pseudoscience.
No, you don't seem to understand or respond to reasoning at all.
Perhaps you are in tune with Q or some other quack but you are not in tune with the science of covid.
I have not taken a flu vaccine for the last six years and definitely not taking covid-19 gene therapy and I have not been sick any one of those days during the last six years. How? Exercise daily, no sugar diet, lots of water, sleep, etc. Give me a break, I know what goes on at the nurses station everywhere in this country. The amount of sweets, aka high sugar high carb, empty caloric intake that the average nurse eats during a shift is not healthy at all. Y'all know what I am talking about. I'm not saying they are bad people for eating that but it is a poor health choice. Their decision. My decisions involve staying fit, mentally and physically. It starts there. If you don't agree with that, fine. Your opinion. But to call everything "propaganda" or "pseudoscience conspiracies" that you don't agree with is also a poor decision.
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41 minutes ago, Jack Peace said:
I have not taken a flu vaccine for the last six years and definitely not taking covid-19 gene therapy and I have not been sick any one of those days during the last six years. How? Exercise daily, no sugar diet, lots of water, sleep, etc. Give me a break, I know what goes on at the nurses station everywhere in this country. The amount of sweets, aka high sugar high carb, empty caloric intake that the average nurse eats during a shift is not healthy at all. Y'all know what I am talking about. I'm not saying they are bad people for eating that but it is a poor health choice. Their decision. My decisions involve staying fit, mentally and physically. It starts there. If you don't agree with that, fine. Your opinion. But to call everything "propaganda" or "pseudoscience conspiracies" that you don't agree with is also a poor decision.
I don't call everything that I disagree with propaganda or pseudoscience...that's nonsense hyperbole. I catalog propaganda and pseudoscience accurately. You've offered a steady stream of propaganda, pseudoscience and misinformation about this virus and the vaccines. That's just fact.
Nobody cares why you think that you have never gotten influenza or other common illnesses. We do care that you seemingly are unable to discern credible science from quackery and insist that dangerous misinformation is nothing more than a simple difference of opinion...like whether or not you care for the taste of of cilantro. We do care that your comments diminish the tragedy and suffering of this pandemic.
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I'm not sure why you feel pasting the entire article makes it more valid. Again, The vaccine was already approved, it was not being "tested" on the women in question, the deaths that occurred in vaccinated women were investigated by the Indian government and were not found to be caused by the vaccine, and the vaccination initiative was overseen by a group called PATH, which is not operated by Bill Gates.
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