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An Alabama doctor announced he would not treat patients who refused to get vaccinated against COVID-19 ...

Alabama Doctor Refuses to Treat Unvaccinated COVID Patients

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32 minutes ago, jive turkey said:

Are you suggesting unvaccinated people are the only ones on this planet a danger to others?

How many of us had the homeless patients with HIV and other communicable diseases.  Respiratory included!

How many of us have been or nearly  injured trying to turn the 500lb patient?

How many of us had to defend against assault from the schizophrenics, bipolar, alcoholics, and drug addicts?

While they don't have the same death tolls as COVID, we need to stop using "danger to others" as an excuse not to care.  We care for people all the time that present with an illness or behavior dangerous to the rest of us due to their lifestyle choices.  

side note: An unvaccinated person doesn't equal an infected person.

 

 

Did I at ANY time say that? You are reaching now. You were the one who put the comparisons there that I was shooting down. Being trans in no way affects others' health. (for example)

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10 hours ago, heron said:

No idea - she either resigned or was terminated. Not sorry - she was a lousy worker.

I hope she was stripped of her ability to work with vulnerable patients as well. What a monster.

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3 minutes ago, SmilingBluEyes said:

Did I at ANY time say that? You are reaching now. You were the one who put the comparisons there that I was shooting down. Being trans in no way affects others' health. (for example)

I didn't say you did, that's why I asked.

There's other populations of patients that present with dangers to the community and HCW who aren't denied care.  I gave you examples.  

Why deny care for the unvaccinated if we don't deny care for the others ?

Answer that.

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Just now, jive turkey said:

I didn't say you did, that's why I asked.

There's other populations of patients that present with dangers to the community and HCW who aren't denied care.  I gave you examples.  

Why deny care for the unvaccinated if we don't deny care for the others ?

Answer that.

A doctor can do what they want.  A hospital can't.   Why would anyone in their right mind extend an open hand to the unvaxxed by choice?  They can go to the internet "doctor' who told them that tofu is the cure and they're good to go. 

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7 minutes ago, subee said:

A doctor can do what they want.  A hospital can't.   Why would anyone in their right mind extend an open hand to the unvaxxed by choice?  They can go to the internet "doctor' who told them that tofu is the cure and they're good to go. 

Thank you, you answered as I would have.

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4 minutes ago, SmilingBluEyes said:

Thank you, you answered as I would have.

That's the answer.  Because they "can"?  

That's the best we can do?

So doctors should start refusing care for ANYBODY that makes a choice that may present harmful to others?

So how about they refuse the 67 yo who didn't get vaccinated for pneumonia?  pneumonia isn't infectious but the pathogens that cause it are

How about refusing the drug user because he might attack

How about refuse the 500lb patient, they may hurt somebody by falling

Unvaccinated doesn't even mean infectious. Maybe if the doctor had the visit he/she could sit down for a good long time and educate them !!!! but nope ain't got time for that, can't spend more than 5 minutes with the patient because the fewer its they see in a day the less they can bill for.

I'm disappointed to see a bunch of nurses advocate for retaliating against people, selectively at that.

I notice none of you has a good reason  why a doctor should discriminate against one population but not the other.

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46 minutes ago, jive turkey said:

That's the answer.  Because they "can"?  

That's the best we can do?

So doctors should start refusing care for ANYBODY that makes a choice that may present harmful to others?

So how about they refuse the 67 yo who didn't get vaccinated for pneumonia?  pneumonia isn't infectious but the pathogens that cause it are

How about refusing the drug user because he might attack

How about refuse the 500lb patient, they may hurt somebody by falling

Unvaccinated doesn't even mean infectious. Maybe if the doctor had the visit he/she could sit down for a good long time and educate them !! but nope ain't got time for that, can't spend more than 5 minutes with the patient because the fewer its they see in a day the less they can bill for.

I'm disappointed to see a bunch of nurses advocate for retaliating against people, selectively at that.

I notice none of you has a good reason  why a doctor should discriminate against one population but not the other.

Because they want to mitigate risk for their other patients, I suspect. That is why.

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2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Do we need to explain how a contagious airborne virus at pandemic levels represents different threat to the general public than the things you listed? 

No, we already covered it.

Jive, maybe write to that doctor and ask him why he is refusing unvaccinated patients so you can get the exact answer. 

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6 minutes ago, anewsns said:

No, we already covered it.

Jive, maybe write to that doctor and ask him why he is refusing unvaccinated patients so you can get the exact answer. 

I'm calling bull.  All kinds of people with infectious diseases go to a doctors office at put others at risk.  

COVID isn't respiratory illness out there.   

I see everybody is avoiding the question and I presume to know why.

47 minutes ago, SmilingBluEyes said:

Because they want to mitigate risk for their other patients, I suspect. That is why.

Yea, and as mentioned above if that's the reason I'd call bull on that.  Sick people go to doctors offices and hospitals.  One disease is being picked on.  Just because someone isn't vaccinated doesn't mean they're infectious.  

What I see is people side stepping the question.  

 

Everybody that condones that is part of the problem.  

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Jive, When parties cant agree on basic facts there is zero room for coherent discussion. If you are so obsessed with the answer and are not satisfied with ours then write that doctor. 

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3 minutes ago, anewsns said:

Jive, When parties cant agree on basic facts there is zero room for coherent discussion. If you are so obsessed with the answer and are not satisfied with ours then write that doctor. 

Can't answer 

That's what I thought 

I'm always down to agree to disagree.

peace.

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On 8/20/2021 at 9:29 PM, SmilingBluEyes said:

Well on a related note:

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/08/19/the-cost-of-being-unvaccinated-just-went-up---most-insurers-are-passing-costs-back-to-patients-as-covid-hospitalizations-soar/?sh=73876ba7bd9a

Looks like some insurance carriers plan to pass some of the hospital costs related to COVID back to the patients. Sadly we all will pay more when this happens. This will be accomplished by passing on waivers....

There are people don't think of unintended consequences. That's why some people get richer.  

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