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An Alabama doctor announced he would not treat patients who refused to get vaccinated against COVID-19 ...

Alabama Doctor Refuses to Treat Unvaccinated COVID Patients

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2 minutes ago, Honyebee said:

I declined for the MMR titer. I jumped for another series of MMR shots recently. 

I had to have the titer drawn for the last job I had. I was surprised to find that my measles result returned non-immune, which is what prompted me to research it. I happily took a booster MMR and warned my brother about the potential waning of immunity. My entire immediate family is also COVID vaccinated. My brother and I are both in first-responder or healthcare occupations and my parents elderly with my mother a cancer survivor, so it was an obvious choice for us. He and his wife also have two very young children to think of. I don't really bat an eye at mandated vaccines given my military history, same with my father. We tend to make jokes about all the various vaccines that have been required for us. He was a corpsman, so he has plenty of his own stories to tell. ?

The oncologist and radiology clinics have both been great about their efforts to protect their patients during the pandemic and I've been very thankful for this. I have worried a lot about my mother during this whole ordeal and continue to do so, as well as for everyone else who is particularly vulnerable just trying to live their lives and receive care. Even when the CDC relaxed guidelines for the vaccinated regarding masks, indoor dining, etc. I pointed out to my family that while these guidelines were for those who were vaccinated, you could easily see in most places that no one was wearing masks anymore. Despite vaccination rates nowhere near 100%. Continuing to avoid indoor dining and staying extra vigilant or masking became more about protecting oneself due to an inability to trust others. 

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2 hours ago, HarleyvQuinn said:

I don't sense hostility at all. I actually enjoy the discussion, as I agree there is always room to discuss potential ethical concerns when it comes to these issues. There are a lot of practice issues that are occurring due to choices being made by outside influences causing hardship on providers currently. It's creating all sorts of ethical dilemmas. 

 One of those is the concern regarding patients who are not compliant with treatment regimens.

Glad to hear that. I have to often preface my message as benign because many participants aren't able to disagree without receiving or dishing hostility.

Reimbursement issues, man we could start a while new thread about how that affects the care a provider offers. This is a serious challenge behind care being influenced by profit motive and attempts to combat waste. 

That was a remarkable story regarding the young lady and her TDAP shot.  We have years history with that drug vs this new one. It's unfortunate the situation requires mandates. 

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38 minutes ago, jive turkey said:

It's unfortunate the situation requires mandates.

Yeah...pandemics with the accompanying suffering and death are very unfortunate. If only we could do something to hasten the return to normal. 

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1 hour ago, jive turkey said:

Glad to hear that. I have to often preface my message as benign because many participants aren't able to disagree without receiving or dishing hostility.

Reimbursement issues, man we could start a while new thread about how that affects the care a provider offers. This is a serious challenge behind care being influenced by profit motive and attempts to combat waste. 

That was a remarkable story regarding the young lady and her TDAP shot.  We have years history with that drug vs this new one. It's unfortunate the situation requires mandates. 

Debating, especially these current hot topics, can often involve a lot of charged emotions. As I've said in other posts, so many of us are in need of not just physical healing, but mental and emotional after everything the pandemic has put us through. Acute stress reactions and post-traumatic stress can quite literally alter the way you interact with life circumstances in so many ways. 

 I agree that the profit motivation in healthcare could start another new thread with everything behind it. I imagine you and I have a lot we could discuss regarding the social determinants of health and ethics in general. I was actually glad we spent time on this during my MSN education. Understanding the hardships that our more vulnerable populations face is so important, especially when it comes to not just accessing healthcare, but also establishing trust in healthcare professionals. Viewing what healthcare is like in a third-world country, or rather the lack thereof is an eye-opening experience. Realizing that patients do not receive what we consider to be very basic preventative care, screenings, exams, or treatments. Burns is still a significant killer of children, particularly cooking fires and oil lamps in the home. There are no burn centers. Children were wrapped in bandages and returned to their parents, who were told to take them home to die. We couldn't just transfer host nation patients to any hospital for further care. If you sent the wrong patient to the local hospital, they would be killed for being of the wrong religious sect. 

 The population I worked with was so happy to have the chance to receive healthcare from us while we were there. The opportunity to receive vaccines, even. Even now, in the midst of this pandemic, poor countries are struggling to obtain enough vaccines for their people. This while our first-world country squabbles over not wanting to wear masks, socially distance themselves, or are upset that employers are mandating vaccination of employees. New mutations of the virus arising from these same regions. I feel jaded, but I am also tired and stressed. My brothers and sisters in arms have died again overseas, and it's tiring, too. Part of me is starting to see it as "first-world problems." I just don't really like that part of myself. 

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8 hours ago, jive turkey said:

Glad to hear that. I have to often preface my message as benign because many participants aren't able to disagree without receiving or dishing hostility.

Including you.

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6 hours ago, Horseshoe said:

Including you.

The tone of my messages are a reflection of the person who engaged me.  I don't start it but I'll end it. 

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3 minutes ago, jive turkey said:

The tone of my messages are a reflection of the person who engaged me.  I don't start it but I'll end it. 

You are responsible for your own words and tone.  You didn't end anything, you started something...

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2 hours ago, jive turkey said:

The tone of my messages are a reflection of the person who engaged me.  I don't start it but I'll end it. 

Ah no excuse. You rise above if you want your points understood. 2 wrongs and all that.....

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4 hours ago, jive turkey said:

The tone of my messages are a reflection of the person who engaged me.  I don't start it but I'll end it. 

Promise?

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On 8/25/2021 at 9:35 AM, veganista13 said:

I’ve heard of this happening, doctors walking out in protest because of the unvaccinated. WOW!? Do your job and treat the sick. You took an oath. You treat the homeless guy who refuses to get a job and doesn’t have insurance, you treat the smoker for lung cancer, the obese heart patient…why is this any different? Those patients made choices as well. I don’t approve of transgenderism but I still treat those patients just as I would anyone else.  People in medicine have become heartless and forget that people have a choice as to what they put in their body. The comments people leave In Regards to one choosing not to get vaccinated are so cruel and heartless. Makes me lose faith in humanity. Personally I’d rather care for an unvaccinated patient sick with COVID than one who was vaccinated and then hospitalized with COVID.  

Show me where doctors walked out in protest.  Are you reading the NY Post or other news of that ilk?  Those doctors just walked out for a press conderence during lunch and went back to work.  Be careful where you gather information.

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