Did anyone attend the RN program at NCCC?

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I am planning on attending the RN program at NCCC in Fall 2008, has anyone gone through it? Were the profs good? How was your clinical experience? I have known a few people that went through nursing school (in general not necessarily there) and they say it was h*ll, what did you think? I am also a little worried about the drop out rate, I hear it is very high, can anyone tell me why students tend to drop out? I am a little nervous since I am a little older than probably most the students that I will attend with but that isn't what is bothering me, it is more of the fear of failure I guess or being unable to practice safely (which they clearly state will get me booted if I am unsafe). I have spoken with a person there who was helpful but I was too nervous to ask to many questions without truly being a student in the program.

Please name a few of the hospitals in NYC that hire AD nurses. I'm not talking about Queens or Bklyn.

Being that I'm not interested in working in NYC, I don't have much info on this. I'm from the Queens area and I will be looking to work either in Queens or Nassau County, LI.

But just to answer your question, here are a few hospitals in Manhattan that hire RNs with an ADN (because Queens and Brooklyn are part of NYC):

  • Memorial Sloan Kettering
  • Mount Sinai - they even offer an onsite BSN program offered by NYU! (which they pay for!) or 16 credit reimbursement for various other universities.
  • Hospital for Joint Diseases
  • Lennox Hill Hospital - (with 18 credit/year tuition reimbursement)

And that is just some of them. Most hospitals will hire with an ADN... and they will pay for you to continue on to your BSN. As a matter of fact, they encourage it. Which is why for me it is a smart choice to get my RN degree in 2 years as opposed to 4, start working and making at least $65K a year, then go to school for 1 more year and have my BSN. Also, as a plus, I'll have my BSN in 3 years instead of 4 and all without having any debt at the end of it all. It just wasn't practical for me to go to a BSN school. I'm not saying going straight into a BSN is wrong, it just wasn't the right choice for me. And at the level of staff nurse, an ADN and a BSN really have no major difference. Why do you think the differential for a staff nurse with a BSN is only $0.50/hour??? Now when you want to move up the ladder, that's another story.

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Please name a few of the hospitals in NYC that hire AD nurses. I'm not talking about Queens or Bklyn.

All HHC hospitals hire ADN nurses and this is a list of all of the HHC hospitals that

are in Manhattan which you mistakenly believe is the only borough in NYC that counts as being NYC.

Manhattan

Bellevue Hospital Center

Coler-Goldwater Specialty Hospital and Nursing Facility

Gouverneur Healthcare Services

Harlem Hospital Center

Metropolitan Hospital Center

Renaissance Health Care Network Diagnostic & Treatment Center

Interestingly enough, if you look at this particualar job postings you will see that enrollment in a BSN program and 1 year experience qualifies a person to become head nurse. http://employment.nychhc.org/download/harlem-headnurse.pdf

However, please take careful notice of this listing which is typical of HHC listings for RN positions, it requires nothing more than a current NYC license as a RN. http://employment.nychhc.org/download/coler-staffnurse-cont.pdf

And like I said in my first post some of the hospitals do indeed hire LPN's. http://employment.nychhc.org/download/coler-lpnurse.pdf

NYU Dowtown Hospital...another RN position that does not ask for a BSN. http://www.downtownhospital.org/pages/3126/Nursing_Opportunities.htm

Let's go back to the NYP if you read the postings for their RN job listings you will clearly see that it says BSN preferred not required http://www.nyp.org/careers/job_ops/sea_job.html?name1=Search+Jobs+and+Apply+Online&type1=2Active

and would you believe it they also hire LPN's. https://applicant.nyp.org/psc/nyp-erecruit/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/c/HRS_HRS.HRS_APP_SCHJOB.GBL

Shocking, utterly shocking.

Check out Lenox Hill Hospitals Salary and Benefit Information. If they don't hire ADNs then why do they offer salary differentials according to education?

http://www.lenoxhillhospital.org/nursing/Nursing_Benefits_2004.pdf

The only reason I am going through the trouble is that I would hate for anyone to be discouraged to apply to any hospital because they received misinformatoin.

I'm done with this thread because I have proved that "NYC" hospitals DO hire ADNs as well as LPN's in some departments.

That said...again who cares there are tons of jobs for nurses in hospital and non-hospital settings in all of the boroughs that make up NYC.

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Specializes in Cardiac Care.

Thank you, everyone, for keeping this civil.

Now, back to the originally scheduled thread, which, I believe, concerned Niagara County Community College...!

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Specializes in healthcare12 years.
The OP didn't ask anyone what they thought about her choices. She merely asked if anyone who attended NCCC had any information for her. So why are you hi-jacking her thread?

Also, here we go again with this ADN vs. BSN debate! :uhoh3: It's so old and tired already. Who told the OP to not pursue a BSN? I certainly never said it all I said was that there may be reasons why a person wouldn't choose to go the BSN route.

Finally, if NO NYC hospital hires ADNs then why are there still tons of schools that offer ADN education?

What is there some sort of scam going on at the CUNY and SUNY 2 year schools? Are you telling me that they are graduating all of these ADN's who can't get hired by any hospital within the 5 boroughs that make up NYC?

I agree we are done beating the bsn route up, I am going on with my education, but that is the right thing for me.

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O.K., I am sorry I asked the question about the program at NCCC (Niagara County Community College, thank you to the person who actually knew what I was talking about).

I don't give a rats rectum about hospitals in NYC since I will NEVER BE WORKING IN ONE!!!!! Sooooooo I am asking the people who cannot answer my question to MOVE ON TO ANOTHER THREAD!!!

So now if anyone is still looking at this thread, can anyone tell me what the RN program at NCCC is like? Please see my original post that started the thread for my original question. Thank you.

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Because of the the shortage (which as we all know is predicted to increase) hospitals that DID only hire BSN's are now hiring RN's period. I know of a few CC's who have graduates that will be hired before some BSN university graduates because of the program. A degree does not equal and education. Good luck to you karen230!

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I was accepeted to NCCC but didn't go because I got accepted to a school closer to my home. That said, here's what I heard about the program.

Heard it was a good program and that the first semester they weed folks out. If a professor doens't like you be careful because you can be kicked out. As with all progarms, study, study, study. Also for more info do a search on allnurses and you will find all the posts on NCCC. Good Luck!!

Also there is not much to do in the area.

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Specializes in Telemtry.

I graduated from the RN program at NCCC in May 2002 AND I LOVED IT!! Yes it was very tough program but it is worth all the hard work. The professors are excellent but critcial at times. I think the program is excellent for the following reasons, it prepares you for your first job in a hospital, the professors have the time to give the students one on one attention if there is a problem, the clinical compenet is wonderful and helps with skills. I think that a 2yr program is good to start with if you are unsure what you want out of your nursing carrer.

If you plan to work in the western new york as a nurse in a hospital it does not matter what type of degree if have. This is my feelings about a BSN degree- it is worth while if you want a management job right away but a 2 yr degree gets you into the job right away espically with clinic training. I think that a nurse from a 2yr program is more preparedly clinically to work a hosiptal setting right away. I also have my BSN- and I don't feel that it has made me a better floor nurse at all.

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Please name a few of the hospitals in NYC that hire AD nurses. I'm not talking about Queens or Bklyn.

Carie, I went to NCCC and believe me, NYC ain't commutable from here and LPN's are still employable here, let alone BSN's. Think rural and medically underserved.

The instructors were mediocre and vaguely sadistic, as seems to be the case in most nursing schools. I met no brilliant minds in the nursing dep't. However, my science profs were wonderful.

You don't do the RN program there, BTW. You get in for the LPN year, and then must pass the NCLEX-PN and THEN get into the RN year. I made the RN year, but my commute (140 miles a day round trip) and annoyance at these people trying to mold my already petrified character led me to start working as an LPN and continue on-line via Excelsior. I'm half-way there - in fact, I should be studying for NC 4 on Weds.

Clinton, I've heard, is even worse. Adirondack is a true 2-year RN program and is held in high regard. SUNY Plattsburgh, as you know, has a 4 year BSN program.

If you want feel free to PM or email me.

And just go. It's not like we have real choices anyway. Suck up the nonsense and deal.

:)

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Hey, ignore my entire post. Wrong school. I'm thinking North Country.

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I must say, this makes for interesting reading, I am a nurse with 18 years experiance, I started out as an ADN prepared nurse and never had an issue finding a job in NYC, FLA, AZ, AL, TX, or NM. I now am a masters prepared nurse and insturctor for a local community college and online instructor for a fast track BSN program. I can tell you that hands down, ADN nurses have far better clinical preperation than the other degrees. And no you do not need a BSN to advance, there are plenty of nurse executives and administrators that are ADN and diploma schooled. It is the experiance that matters and the quality of the care given. Now as for furthering education, It is suggested to do so, is it a requirement by any certian time in order to phase out the 2 yr and diploma nurses no! This will not happen our lifetimes as the shortage will worsen beyond our expectation. It is an individual choice to persue a higher degree. Does it make a differance in pay only at the grad level. ADNs and BSNs currently make the same pay as staff nurses. Some facilities offer a dollar or so more for the BSN but do not require it.

and for the record I have several friends that are nurses ADNs mind you that live and work in inner city NY. One of whom is the Cheif Executive Nursing officer of one of the largets NYC metropolitian hospitals.

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My mother went to Molloy (and lives in Hempstead--->very close to home). They have a really good program. I agree with the others.

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