CPAP: Use It And Live

The majority of patients I encounter in the ICU/CCU who have a diagnosis of sleep apnea do not use their CPAP machines. Those who DO use them seem to have better outcomes. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

I work in a cardiac intensive care unit; CCU and SICU together. As an ICU nurse, I'm well acquainted with the correlation between untreated sleep apnea and heart disease, stroke or sudden death. And I wish I had a dollar for every patient with "obstructive sleep apnea" listed as a diagnosis on their chart and no CPAP with them when they're admitted to the ICU.

Pauline (not her real name) came in for an MI, proceeded to have a CABG and then stroked while still in the ICU. Her history lists "sleep apnea." when asked if she brought her CPAP, she proudly held up a respironics bag. At bedtime, we opened it up and found an ancient CPAP machine and full face mask that may have fit her 100 pounds ago (did i mention that she was 5 foot 0 inches and weighed 140 kg.?) The humidifier was missing a part and the hose had toothmarks in it -- canine or feline toothmarks.

"When was the last time you used this," I asked, thinking that maybe this is her spare and her real machine is at home on her bedside table.

"Oh, I don't use it," she said. "I just brought it in because the office nurse told me I ought to."

Mentally slapping myself on the side of my head, I ask "why don't you use it?"

"i don't like having all that air forced into me," she says. Like that ventilator you're going to be stuck with is so much more comfortable? (I'm so proud that I managed to bite my tongue before actually saying this.) Sure enough, she failed her first three extubation attempts, got trached and is now in a long term care facility on a ventilator.

Hermann has a heartmate II ventricular assist device. He was readmitted not too long ago with a recurrent drive line infection. As part of the admission process, I went over his problem list with him -- and of course obstructive sleep apnea was listed. "did you bring your cpap?" I asked.

"i don't need to use it anymore," he said. "I have my heartmate now!" (for all of you nurses who haven't worked with heartmates, they're a left ventricular assist device. They're used as bridge to transplant, or even destination therapy for heart failure. Blood is routed from the left ventricle through the device and is returned to the aorta.)

Worse, when I read over his clinic notes, there was a note from a nurse practitioner stating something to the effect of "patient refuses to use CPAP at night. Instructed to use it for 2 or 3 hours during the day when he's watching TV, so he'll get at least some benefit from it." really? I doubt that the man is have sleep apnea while he's watching TV. By definition, one needs to be sleeping to have sleep apnea.

Then there was the man who came in for semi-elective valve surgery. Once again, obstructive sleep apnea was noted on his problem list. "did you bring your cpap?" I asked. "oh, no," exclaimed his wife. "He doesn't like it, so he never uses it." It's been five months and counting -- he's still in the ICU. The hypertension he developed subsequent to the untreated sleep apnea caused left ventricular hypertrophy and then he arrested post-op .

I was thrilled when last week's patient swore he used his CPAP faithfully. "I don't have it with me because I didn't think I needed it in the hospital and all," he explained. "But my wife can go home and get it."

His wife went home and got the CPAP. Interestingly enough, neither the patient or his wife had any idea how to set it up or how the mask fittings worked. What was he using the CPAP for? A paperweight? He's on his third admission for heart failure and they're talking transplant now. I wonder if some of his problems could have been avoided had he been actually using the CPAP he got four years ago.

It may be my imagination, but I swear there's a correlation between showing up with your CPAP and knowing how to use it and eventual outcome . . . Those that bring it and use it seem to do well and transfer out of the ICU promptly. Those who don't bring it, bring only parts of it, can't set it up or don't even pretend to use it usually do poorly. Maybe it's just that those who actually use their CPAP are more compliant patients in general, and compliant patients do better, but i swear that treating sleep apnea enhances patient outcomes.

The woman I admitted today -- with obstructive sleep apnea and heart disease -- claims she "has sleep apnea, but I don't need to use a CPAP. They told me I only had to use it at night, and I sleep during the day." I attempted to educate her on the correlation between sleep apnea and heart disease. "Oh," she said. "I guess I could use it, but it's just so difficult. You have no idea how difficult it is, strapping that thing on your face and trying to go to sleep."

I do know how difficult it is. I strap one on every night when i go to sleep -- and in the afternoon when I take a nap, too. It's uncomfortable, unsexy, inconvenient and unnatural. It just might save your life, though.

CPAP: use it and live.

Specializes in Labor/Delivery, Pediatrics, Peds ER.
I had problems with my nasal allergy, which clogged my nose. Using a CPAP just was not working. Finally I was put on a decongestant, and singular. Other than having a cold, my nose stays open and I can use the CPAP. Sometimes just using a full face mask will do the job. But for me I really had a hard time learning to breath out against the pressure of my machine...which was set at 12. It took me nearly 3 months of being hard headed ....I WAS NOT GOING TO FAIL AT USING MY CPAP. I use it faithfully. I have had about 4 machines in the 20 yrs I have had apnea. My husband is now on one. His is set at 17. He did not have any problems getting used to it. He no longer falls asleep behind the wheel or at work. So I would think that your issue with your father? not using the CPAP may only be that he has not been fitted with the proper mask and his nasal congestion has not been addressed. Let him know he will be much happier and have more energy, sleep better, too.

Since my last post, I, too, have been dx with sleep apnea, and I thank this post for being a motivating factor to keep at it.

Is your CPAP still set at a constant 12? That is a lot of pressure for the expiratory phase. I really applaud you for being so persistent. I have an Auto machine now (gives variable pressure in response to needs) which also has expiratory phase relief - I have that set at 3 because of my asthma.

I really agree with you that the right mask is crucial. I use the Swift FX Bella - nasal pillows with ear loops, and they are great for me. I can sleep on my side without a mask issue, and it doesn't muss my hair nor require me to be able to reach all around my head to adjust straps - which I'm unable to do due to arthritis. I love it. Well, as much as one can love something hanging off her face in the middle of the night. :)

Many thanks again to the OP!

I was diagnosed with OSA 2 years ago and the Bi-PAP saved my sanity...I never realized how much better I could feel!

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
My husband and I each wear a CPAP. We invested in a small generator. Runs the refrigerator and our CPAPs. Considered the small travel models with built in batteries but decided we may not have them charged when we need them. :twocents: :)

Hurricane Sandy challenged my belief that a travel CPAP with a battery was going to be enough. We will be getting a generator as well. As long as it runs the CPAPs and charges my iPad, I'm good!

How do you chart on c pap. Machine.

Specializes in LTC and Pediatrics.

If it is not listed as a treatment, chart it in a nurses note.

Specializes in Thoracic Cardiovasc ICU Med-Surg.

Ruby, I also work in cardiac surgery ICU and I agree with everything you've said up there. The noncompliant CPAP people seems to have way worse problems. I haven't researched enough to know all the correlations, but they are sicker when they come in, and take a loooooonnnggg time to get better. If they even do.

I have a question. My fater has sleep apena and states that he can not wear the cpap because it "collapses his sinuses" and he can not breathe.

He did recently undergo surgery to fix a deviated septum, but states he still can not wear the cpap.

Is this something that actually happens or is he being belligerent? (he has a history of that!)

Also what are some other options to help people with sleep apnea? Are there alternative therapies? Any information would be great!

I know this is an old post, but I needed to reply to this one.

I can not sleep with a nasal mask. It closes my nares. I don't like a full mask because I have to breathe through my mouth (it also closes my nares if I try to breathe through my nose only). It could be a real problem for him and others. Try different masks and nasal pillows and see if that helps.

A nasal pillow works great for me. It blows my nares open and allows me to breathe through my nose comfortably, even if I am nasally congested.

I have had my CPAP since 2005 (still on original machine, Resmed S8, use either a Mirage Swift Nasal pillow or Opus 360 Nasal Pillow) and can not sleep without it. There have been maybe 10 times since I got it that I have not used it (working 24 hour shifts on the ambulance and forgot it at home) and did not sleep worth a darn. I think I do need to get another sleep study done though, I have gained 60 lbs since the last study and just need to make sure I don't need any adjustments made.

I was one that took to it immediately and had no issues with it. My wife said the first night I had it on she slept horrible, she kept looking to see if I was alive since I made no noise.

I have advised many patients on the importance of wearing their masks or getting a sleep study done. No idea if any of them listened to me or not, but I am a firm believer in it and have been nagging both my brothers and brother-in-laws to wear theirs (one brother does, the other 3, well, I still have work to do with them).

Specializes in ER.

My uncle was in his 60's and diagnosed with sleep apnea. He was being investigated for drug use at his work because he was constantly nodding off at his desk, not able to remember things long enough to finish a sentence. He had a respiratory arrest in hospital, then was set up with CPAP for home. Fast forward about seven years...he wears the CPAP faithfully, got up to pee, then back to bed. He has lots of aches and pains, so we theorize that he was just resting, trying to get comfortable, and fell asleep. Massive MI, in bed, with no CPAP on. DRT. Wear your CPAP people, every time you go to bed.

I have a relative who wears their CPAP nightly at home. However, when they have been hospitalized and are acutely ill, or have just had surgery and are in the hospital, they have found it intolerable to wear at these times and have refused to do so. They would love to be able to tolerate wearing their CPAP during their hospital stay. That's the reason no CPAP is brought to the hospital for them now, or the reason it remains in the car. Noncompliance with CPAP in the hospital is not always because the patient simply chooses not to wear it routinely at home; sometimes the patient simply cannot physically tolerate wearing it during acute illness or post-op.

I spoke to my relative's pulmonologist about this problem, and they told us that CPAP is designed for outpatient use, and that patients usually can go for a week without their CPAP. In the case of my relative, after a single night of not using their CPAP at home their health begins to deteriorate. I know that when my relative is hospitalized and unable to tolerate their CPAP that they will be spending their hospital stay without proper sleep - even if they are fortunate enough to be able to sleep they will be experiencing apneic episodes numerous times an hour, which is harmful for their health and for their healing/recovery. I wish I knew of a solution.