COVID-19: Stimulus Checks for Teachers?

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Perhaps I'm missing something but I just read this on some news site but similar articles are all over the news:

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"Some state governments and local school boards have made the decision to send stimulus money to teachers as a thank you for the efforts they made during the COVID-19 pandemic. Many teachers risked exposure by offering in-person instruction, while many others had to scramble to transition to online coursework during an unprecedented global public health crisis".

And this is the email I just sent to Governor Abbott and Senator Ted Cruz:

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I am horrified the State of Texas is sending $1000 stimulus checks to teachers.  For what?  They sat in the safety and security of their homes most of the past school year, teaching from computers.  Where is the extra stimulus for the nurses and other healthcare providers who literally put their lives on the line each and every day as they cared for people in hospitals, in their homes.  Not only were they at severe and much greater risk than teachers -  they also risked the lives of their family members each time they completed a shift and walked through their front door.  Their spouses, children, elderly relatives..

Also, speaking of elderly, where is THEIR stimulus check.  Are you aware housing (where they are going to live) is the greatest concern of seniors?  How are they going to buy groceries?  Pay for life-saving medications?

And yes?  I am a retired senior nurse.  I'm OK.  I can afford my rent, my food; however, I worked with low income seniors for the past 3-4 years.  Many are homeless.

So explain to me why hundreds of thousands of dollars are going to teachers while you leave out those that saved the lives of those teachers?  And many seniors that made this country what it is?

This plan is abhorrent.  I'm ashamed of my Texas government.

What am I missing here?  I didn't even have room to talk about the nightmare of working in those many layers of PPE, having difficulty breathing through the masks, sweating from all the layers of protective gowns/caps...so many things...for 12-14+ hours...helpless while people are dying before your eyes...not having a family member with them.  And what about all the HCP's that had to go to work (including unit sec, CNA's, ancillary people) and leave their kids at home to try to get computer educated??? 

OK...this is the reason I normally do NOT listen to the news - not good for an old persons B/P.  I'm livid for my peers.

Specializes in Critical Care.
2 hours ago, GordonGekko said:

Florida and Texas governors have NOT banned masks.  Students have the choice to wear a mask.

I am glad Republicans have been fighting socialized healthcare.  We all know how inefficient the VA and Medicare is.  Why would you want that on a national scale?  Healthcare is a privilege and it’s not a right.  We need to repeal EMTALA that way emergency rooms can turn away those who can’t pay for services.  If this happens there will be a trickle down effect in savings to all the paying customers.  When a person has a $20,000 ER bill and possible admission the lost income is passed onto other peoples bills.

I can’t count the number of times I have treated Canadians even though they have a “superior” healthcare system. Guess they are tired of waiting 2 years for a hip replacement.  
 

As for Pharmaceuticals the vast majority of drugs are very cheap.  If you don’t agree with the prices you are free to start your own pharmaceutical company.  The level of entitlement that many people have in regards to healthcare and being okay with outright stealing from others shows the degradation of mortality and ethics in America.

Both the Florida and Texas governors have tried to ban masks in classrooms.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/florida-gov-desantis-issue-order-giving-

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/09/texas-mask-order-schools/

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/mounting-lawsuits-federal-government-challenge-desantis-abbott-bans-on-mask-mandates/

If national healthcare isn't a prior during a life-threatening world wide pandemic then when will it be?  As to the pharmaceutical companies are you kidding me!  Did you forget Martin Shkreli who raised a generic life saving drug exponentially.  The companies raise drugs whenever they want.  Insulin is unaffordable.  Up until media attention and govt scrutiny epi pens were $600 a pop when we are facing record life threatening children allergy epidemic!  This is a generic med that costs pennies and has been available for decades but the US alone allows them to patent the cheap plastic injection as their excuse for this greed.  Now the lowest I've seen is $140 thru goodrx and as someone who has needed them multiple times over the years, that is still ridiculous!

I'm not greedy as you appear to be, I don't think healthcare is a privilege it is a right!  I would be happy to wait for elective procedures as long as basic life saving treatments were affordable.  As to medicare it wastes very little on administrative costs, unlike private business that give millions and extravagant  bonuses to all the middle men administrators sucking up the healthcare dollars instead of spending it on the nurses, doctors and staff of the hospitals and having adequate supplies.  It's obvious whose side you are on and I assume your $250,000 is because you are one of those managers!

Specializes in MSN, FNP-C, PMHNP, CEN, CCRN, TCRN, EMT-P.
On 8/16/2021 at 2:41 PM, lifelearningrn said:

Most teachers work 10 months a year, but the hours and responsibilities laid upon them are well over your typical 40 hour work week.  

Teachers are underpaid for the crap they put up with. 

So even at 10 months that comes out to be a 60k/year job then.  How do you know they are underpaid for the crap they put up with?  What grades did you teach?

Specializes in MSN, FNP-C, PMHNP, CEN, CCRN, TCRN, EMT-P.
2 hours ago, brandy1017 said:

Both the Florida and Texas governors have tried to ban masks in classrooms.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/florida-gov-desantis-issue-order-giving-

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/09/texas-mask-order-schools/

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/mounting-lawsuits-federal-government-challenge-desantis-abbott-bans-on-mask-mandates/

If national healthcare isn't a prior during a life-threatening world wide pandemic then when will it be?  As to the pharmaceutical companies are you kidding me!  Did you forget Martin Shkreli who raised a generic life saving drug exponentially.  The companies raise drugs whenever they want.  Insulin is unaffordable.  Up until media attention and govt scrutiny epi pens were $600 a pop when we are facing record life threatening children allergy epidemic!  This is a generic med that costs pennies and has been available for decades but the US alone allows them to patent the cheap plastic injection as their excuse for this greed.  Now the lowest I've seen is $140 thru goodrx and as someone who has needed them multiple times over the years, that is still ridiculous!

I'm not greedy as you appear to be, I don't think healthcare is a privilege it is a right!  I would be happy to wait for elective procedures as long as basic life saving treatments were affordable.  As to medicare it wastes very little on administrative costs, unlike private business that give millions and extravagant  bonuses to all the middle men administrators sucking up the healthcare dollars instead of spending it on the nurses, doctors and staff of the hospitals and having adequate supplies.  It's obvious whose side you are on and I assume your $250,000 is because you are one of those managers!

None of those state that they tried to ban masks.  They want to ban mask "mandates".  This gives each student the option of whether they want to wear a mask.  It doesn't obligate them to nor does it forbid them from doing so.  Its called compromise....

Why bash the Pharma Bro?  He bought the rights to that AIDS medication and upped the price as he had the right to.  That isn't why he is in prison right now.  Its not an illegal practice.  Martin came from poor immigrant parents and turned himself into a multimillionaire.  If you ever want a good financial education watch one of his videos.  He is brilliant.

$140 for an epi pen?  For something that can save your life?  That sounds pretty reasonable to me.  Do you go into a pizza place and demand free pizza?  Why stop at healthcare?  People in America do not take care of themselves.  It is not sustainable and socialized healthcare might be the greatest threat facing our nation right now.

I am at 250k because I work my *** off.  I am looking over the syllabus for one of my upcoming online courses right now.  Always hustling and always looking for new ways to make money.  I don't plan on working 70-80 hours a week forever.  Just for 4-5 years until I get a few vacation rentals set up and some other passive income things then I plan on taking a step back and focusing on family while working a couple days a week.

Specializes in Critical Care.
10 hours ago, GordonGekko said:

None of those state that they tried to ban masks.  They want to ban mask "mandates".  This gives each student the option of whether they want to wear a mask.  It doesn't obligate them to nor does it forbid them from doing so.  Its called compromise....

Why bash the Pharma Bro?  He bought the rights to that AIDS medication and upped the price as he had the right to.  That isn't why he is in prison right now.  Its not an illegal practice.  Martin came from poor immigrant parents and turned himself into a multimillionaire.  If you ever want a good financial education watch one of his videos.  He is brilliant.

$140 for an epi pen?  For something that can save your life?  That sounds pretty reasonable to me.  Do you go into a pizza place and demand free pizza?  Why stop at healthcare?  People in America do not take care of themselves.  It is not sustainable and socialized healthcare might be the greatest threat facing our nation right now.

I am at 250k because I work my *** off.  I am looking over the syllabus for one of my upcoming online courses right now.  Always hustling and always looking for new ways to make money.  I don't plan on working 70-80 hours a week forever.  Just for 4-5 years until I get a few vacation rentals set up and some other passive income things then I plan on taking a step back and focusing on family while working a couple days a week.

It is precisely because we don't have price controls like every other country that allowed Martin and the rest of his ilk to jack prices up out of greed.  I've read enough about that snake in a suit and fraud. I have morals and ethics and wouldn't do what he was willing to do to make a buck so I wouldn't waste my time on any of his videos.  If I remember correctly he was essentially embezzling money from his investing clients to prop up his drug company.  He jacked the price of generic Daraprim over 5,000% from $13.50 to 750 a pill of an essential med with few alternatives.  You may think he is brilliant, but I think he is an amoral sociopath and I'm glad he's in jail.  But as Gorden Gekko in Wallstreet who you appear to fashion yourself after, I can see why you guys would be the best of friends!

The point re the epi pen is the cost of med is pennies and a cheap plastic injection costs pennies as well!  The best cost $140 is still ridiculous, but only came about thru media and govt attention.  Prior it was $600 and it along with the outrageous price of insulin was bankrupting families.  There have even been deaths of patients with type 1 diabetes who died while rationing their insulin as they couldn't afford the cost.  This doesn't happen anywhere else in the world.  It isn't allowed, because most governments provide health insurance and price controls of essential meds. 

Also by a strictly greedy capitalistic outlook it makes no sense to price people out of the market so they die and you lose customers.  Makes as much sense as drug dealers killing off their customers by adding fentanyl to the mix.  I simply shake my head at the stupidity of greed where you are willing to kill off your clients in the pursuit of more money.  How does that even make sense.  You can't maximize profit by killing off your customers! And by the way, while most type 1 diabetics are children, it can happen to adults as well after a viral infection.

And as to the $140 epi pen, that is from the regular free goodrx.  I also paid for Kroger goodrx yet they were charging $300 and there is a gold goodrx.  I have Blue Cross and they claimed it was not formulary so they didn't even offer any discount for it.  How can you deny an essential med as off formulary. I don't understand as there is no alternative and you can die if you have an anaphylactic reaction. 

But living with high deductible insurance for years I've learned to research before I buy meds.  Sometimes Walmart's $4 generics are the best deal and Costco many times is the best deal for a really expensive med because they have a flat fixed rate over cost that is very reasonable.  So to those out there in the same boat I put this out there to check around before you pay for your drugs.  It could save you a lot of money.

Of course the hospitals are against expanded medicare because they don't want to lose their nurses and they said as much.  They know many would retire early rather than continue to work in crappy working conditions.  There is a high incidence of cancer found once people start 65 because they finally have medicare and can afford to be seen.  The present system many go without as the deductibles are over $6,000 a year up to over $8,000 on the very unaffordable insurance market of Obamacare.  Yet before that insurance companies would simply not insure people and even cancel their insurance once they were found to have cancer and this was legal due to the corruption of our congress!  Insurance companies were giving out bonuses for their workers to find any reason to deny care and that is why I'm against the insurance industry.  Although it exists as a supplement to medicare so it is unlikely to go out of business even if we ever have real national healthcare.

Good for you to make the big bucks. 

Specializes in Medsurg.

Yup. Nurses should get extra. Numerous coworkers I worked with had gotten sick with COVID. 

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Specializes in School Nursing.
11 hours ago, GordonGekko said:
11 hours ago, GordonGekko said:

So even at 10 months that comes out to be a 60k/year job then.  How do you know they are underpaid for the crap they put up with?  What grades did you teach?

I am a school nurse and in the thick of it. I see it daily. 

 

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On 8/14/2021 at 11:32 AM, londonflo said:

When AIDS patients came to the hospital, any licensed or unlicensed personnel who refused their assignment, were fired. Is this not the case now?

Can they afford to fire nurses st this point?

Specializes in Telemetry.

I thought this was a nursing community. Why is everyone so quick to oppose this opinion? Just for arguments sake? Or are you not really nurses. Honestly. We don’t get treated right no matter what and it’s exhausting. There’s going  to be less and less of us. Hope none of you get sick. 

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
4 minutes ago, rileybitera said:

I thought this was a nursing community. Why is everyone so quick to oppose this opinion? Just for arguments sake? Or are you not really nurses. Honestly. We don’t get treated right no matter what and it’s exhausting. There’s going  to be less and less of us. Hope none of you get sick. 

If you don't get vaccinated there will be fewer because some will for certain get sick and die...don't gamble with a VPD. 

Pay school teachers great for them but pay nurse also and every other group that’s had to be face to face during this pandemic. 

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