Convicted of murder as a teen and now a nurse

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I know of someone who was convicted of murder as a teen. I won't go into details because the case is somewhat famous due to the fact there was a made-for-tv movie. The person in question did their time and is now in their 40's and is a RN. They legally changed their name but because some website had this information posted the new name has been discovered.

My question is how does someone who has a murder conviction become an RN. I know that the person was tried as a juvenile and sentenced as one but don't they have to disclose this information to the BON?

What does Christianity have to do with this thread? Why not all religions?

You took the words right out of my fingers.

Wonder if the murderer is Christian?

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I care because the victim doesn't have the same opportunity to be "good" as an adult (or even bad, for that matter). Maybe the murdering teenager should have been a more forgiving person, herself, instead of stabbing someone to death over a few hurtful words.

Not saying she was right to kill, but words can severely wound, especially if repeated day after day.

As for should she be a nurse, well, I guess that's a toss-up. I lean toward "no".

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This thread is making me physically ill that people are so unforgiving....so why am I even still reading it?

Yes she can take care of me, my family, etc.

I am an atheist, I live in USA where Christianity is the most prominent religion so I used Jesus Christ as my example of forgiveness.

I wish the administrators would close this thread!

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This thread is making me physically ill that people are so unforgiving....so why am I even still reading it?

Yes she can take care of me, my family, etc.

I am an atheist, I live in USA where Christianity is the most prominent religion so I used Jesus Christ as my example of forgiveness.

I wish the administrators would close this thread!

I can forgive but I can't forget. She didn't kill someone out of defense, she killed out of cold blood. If you are willing to have her take care of you & your family, good. I wouldn't let her near me or my family.

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I'm neither Christian nor do I necessarily think she should still be in prison or outed. I haven't looked at s single link nor googled out of curiosity. Based on a teen stabbing another girl to death, whether she had a psychotic break or is pathological, it "bothers" me theoretically for someone like that to be admitted into some professions, specifically nursing. Others include education of minors, law enforcement, adoptive parents..

I would feel the same way for many heinous acts, whether they served their sentences and became productive or not, some privileges should be lost, in my opinion.

Just curious - what do you think the fate should be of the Europeans who came to America, the Caribbean islands, parts of South and Central America and wrought devastation to the natives inhabiting the aforementioned areas?

African were imported to be slaves on the sugar cane fields, the tobacco fields, and other areas of agriculture.

Natives died of enslavement and newly introduced diseases. The lives of thousands, perhaps millions of slaves and natives were decimated.

Should any of the destroyers, were they alive, be allowed to run America or the Islands or the other countries named, like Panama, for instance?

Should any of them be able to become nurses, Senators, Presidents, and so on?

Just thinking, just wondering.

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Just curious - what do you think the fate should be of the Europeans who came to America, the Caribbean islands, parts of South and Central America and wrought devastation to the natives inhabiting the aforementioned areas?

African were imported to be slaves on the sugar cane fields, the tobacco fields, and other areas of agriculture.

Natives died of enslavement and newly introduced diseases. The lives of thousands, perhaps millions of slaves and natives were decimated.

Should any of the destroyers, were they alive, be allowed to run America or the Islands or the other countries named, like Panama, for instance?

Should any of them be able to become nurses, Senators, Presidents, and so on?

Just thinking, just wondering.

Nice loaded question. Can't go back and change presidencies but a modern day human trafficker should neither be allowed into nursing nor into law making positions. I'm pretty firm on that, you?

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Wow, judgy much.

I wouldn't even consider this judging. Nobody is wishing hell fire on her. This is really more a conversation of the standards of who can be a nurse. I know someone with 2 DUIs and he has to make a case for himself before he can sit for NCLEX. That's not judging. That's being selective about who can be a nurse for the safety of others.

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If he's now in his 40s, has had no other crimes or violent offenses, has made himself into a productive member of society and has rehabilitated himself, then I would be okay with it.

I'm curious....for those of you who think she should still be in prison, or should be 'outed' or whatever....how many of you are Christian? Just curious. No need to answer. Just something to think about.

Just think about this, don't comment, so it's okay to be a bigot when it comes to Christians and their beliefs and then be open-minded and non-judgmental when it comes to a convicted murderer that is trusted with the well-being and possibly the lives of the general public.

When someone murders another human being in cold blood they lose the PRIVILEGE of being able to take care of other human beings. Not sure why society has the lost the ability to separate teenage indiscretions from murder. The pursuit of being open-minded and non-judgmental should not be at the expense of logic and honesty.

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When she was paroled one of the people who sit on the committee was staunchly against it because she still had anger issues. The funny thing is that she has not been in any trouble since. When people found out who she is now she started up all these social network accounts in which she is supposed to live somewhere other than where she really lives. People have posted her real name on her FB page which is quickly deleted by her. Her name that she has now is so unique and there is only one person in the US that has that name.

How do you know there is only 1 person in the US with that name? Those websites are unreliable. It would be a shame for an innocent person to be harassed just because there is the idea that she is a murderer based on one google site.

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Random thoughts:

A professional license is a privilege, not a right. No one has the RIGHT to be a registered nurse. There are academic and personal standards that are expected to be met to hold such a license; it's reasonable to wonder if, in fact, they have been upheld in this case.

"Paying one's debt to Society". Hmmm....well, IMHO, this means that the person has earned back the right to live amongst Society (as opposed to being jailed in a cage) and NOTHING MORE. One cannot "pay back" every debt that has ever gotten a murderer convicted, as the VICTIM cannot be "paid back". Society may allow this person freedom to move amongst us, but this is not the same as having earned a right to every possible freedom there is.

Some crimes result in the consequence of NOT being able to hold professional licenses, not being allowed to vote locally (depends on the State), not being allowed to participate on a jury, not being allowed to engage in business with the government.

Are we ready to accept that someone who is deemed unworthy of the privilege of voting in a Federal election (as is the case with those convicted of a Federal crime) somehow IS worthy of holding another person's life in his/her hands--- which is the expectation of an RN?

Internet anonymity, and privacy in general: Those who are convicted of a sex crime can expect to be on a public registry, and to have their movements tracked. They are not permitted to live within (or even BE within) a certain radius of a school, children's center, etc. There are many reasons one may end up on such a registry, but the fact remains that once someone is convicted of a crime worthy of that list....there they are.

Are we ready to say that someone convicted of murder (first degree, not manslaughter, nothing 'accidental') is deserving of MORE privacy than someone who has engaged a prostitute? Do we really think that the crime of murder should be made off-limits because someone may RECOGNIZE the murderer?

I am under no obligation to cease discussion of an individual crime of murder because the MURDERER may be inconvenienced, or have their career harmed. I mean, REALLY?? As for her family, while I can appreciate their predicament, it's not their fault, etc etc.... that doesn't change the fact that I wouldn't want this person to be a licensed RN, PERIOD. SHE brought onto her family whatever comes their way, NOT the people in 'Society' who discuss her crime.

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Random thoughts:

A professional license is a privilege, not a right. No one has the RIGHT to be a registered nurse. There are academic and personal standards that are expected to be met to hold such a license; it's reasonable to wonder if, in fact, they have been upheld in this case.

"Paying one's debt to Society". Hmmm....well, IMHO, this means that the person has earned back the right to live amongst Society (as opposed to being jailed in a cage) and NOTHING MORE. One cannot "pay back" every debt that ever gotten a murderer convinced, as the VICTIM cannot be "paid back". Society may allow this person freedom to move amongst us, but this is not the same as having earned a right to every possible freedom there is.

Some crimes result in the consequence of NOT being able to hold professional licenses, not being allowed to vote locally (depends on the State), not being allowed to participate on a jury, not being allowed to engage in business with the government.

Are we ready to accept that someone who is deemed unworthy of the privilege of voting in a Federal election (as is the case with those convicted of a Federal crime) somehow IS worthy of holding another person's life in his/her hands--- which is the expectation of an RN?

Internet anonymity, and privacy in general: Those who are convicted of a sex crime can expect to be on a public registry, and to have their movements tracked. They are not permitted to live within (or even BE within) a certain radius of a school, children's center, etc. There are many reasons one may end up on such a registry, but the fact remains that once someone is convicted of a crime worthy of that list....there they are.

Are we ready to say that someone convicted of murder (first degree, not manslaughter, nothing 'accidental') is deserving of MORE privacy than someone who has engaged a prostitute? Do we really think that the crime of murder should be made off-limits because someone may RECOGNIZE the murderer?

I am under no obligation to cease discussion of an individual crime of murder because the MURDERER may be inconvenienced, or have their career harmed. I mean, REALLY?? As for her family, while I can appreciate their predicament, it's not their fault, etc etc.... that doesn't change the fact that I wouldn't want this person to be a licensed RN, PERIOD. SHE brought onto her family whatever comes their way, NOT the people in 'Society' who discuss her crime.

Like times 1000.

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My question is why is op so concerned with keeping this person's identity secret?

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