I've been a lurker for awhile, and I know that this post has been brought up 1-2 times in the last 2 years that I've been an RN. So... you grouchy old farts that would rather I'd revive an old post can just stuff a sock in it. I want to gauge opinions based on our CURRENT situation after the shooting yesterday in San Bernadino, CA.
Truth be told, One single caregiver with a concealed carry permit could have shut this couple down before they hit 14 fatalities.
I plan on getting my CC in January, but I know as an RN, should my handgun be discovered, I'll probably lose my license. It will stay in my car when I am at work. If someone wants to carry out mayhem at my workplace, we are ALL sitting ducks. It is not ok or fair. What are your thoughts?
I just have to throw in one of my favorite bumper stickers; If Guns Kill People, Do Pencils Miss-Spell Words?
I agree, guns don't kill people, but as some of us keep trying to point out, overconfident and inexperienced shooters just might do e a fly that ... in my view, not an acceptable risk in a caregiving situation.
So you'd rather do nothing and let yourself and others be shot? I'm not trying to be snarky. I'm just asking if you feel, given the inaccuracy generated by the adrenaline, that you would be better off in that situation just taking your chances.
So you'd rather do nothing and let yourself and others be shot? I'm not trying to be snarky. I'm just asking if you feel, given the inaccuracy generated by the adrenaline, that you would be better off in that situation just taking your chances.
No, but I would probably be better off if my facility spent some time on "active shooter" drills similar to those used by the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood.
To my mind, my risk increases in direct proportion to the number of bullets flying around. If some of those bullets are being fired by people who havetheskills to function in that kind of crisis, great - let's hear it for the good guy with a gun. But, as a rule, I tend to doubt that that's the case.
I'm a "gun nut" but I wouldn't want everyone I work with packing one. I think that it should be allowed if there is specific training involved and not just handed out to anyone that applies. I carry a concealed handgun when I'm not at work (I work in a locked psychiatric inpatient unit so I would never be able to carry there anyway) and I constantly train and practice.
Well you have written what you feel about carrying guns - you introduced to us all how much you like being able to shoot. Yet when criticized you call it 'insults' I am absolutely against health care workers carrying guns... is that plain enough???
Why are you are 'a gun nut?" do you feel more powerful? what is it that makes you carry a concealed handgun when not at work - so pleased the locked psychiatric inpatient unit has veto gun-toting nurses....
I'm a gun nut because they interest me. For what it's worth I'm a book nut and a computer nut too. I never said that it makes me feel powerful to carry a gun and I hope to never have to use it. Same as I hope to never have to use my seatbelt or malpractice insurance but making sure you have either one of those doesn't help AFTER you need them. Your ignorance shows when you state that you are glad that my work veto's guns in a locked psych unit. Same reason that law enforcement has to disarm before entering. It's sad that you believe that rules and signs will protect you. Ignorance is bliss.........
Specializes in Palliative, Onc, Med-Surg, Home Hospice.
Well you have written what you feel about carrying guns - you introduced to us all how much you like being able to shoot. Yet when criticized you call it 'insults' I am absolutely against health care workers carrying guns... is that plain enough???
Please use quote function. I am not sure who you are quoting.
If it was me: it was you referring to our thoughts as stupid I had problems with. That wasn't a criticism, it was an insult. Others have managed to respond on the nay side without calling our thoughts stupid. So, you believe that I shouldn't carry a gun? I should't be allowed to shoot? What about hunting? You don't like guns, I get it. However, just because a health care worker carries a gun doesn't make them a bad person.
And for the record: I don't carry at the hospital. 1) it's illegal in SC and 2) we have armed security, all of whom are ex-military or ex-police (my facility pays better than law enforcement).
Specializes in E/R, Med/Surg, PCU, Mom-Baby, ICU, more.
No, but I would probably be better off if my facility spent some time on "active shooter" drills similar to those used by the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood.
To my mind, my risk increases in direct proportion to the number of bullets flying around. If some of those bullets are being fired by people who havetheskills to function in that kind of crisis, great - let's hear it for the good guy with a gun. But, as a rule, I tend to doubt that that's the case.
NYPD qualifies every 6 months. They shoot 50 rounds at a stationary target. 5 at 25 yards, 15 at 15 yards, 30 at 7 yards. You need to shoot a 75 to pass. That means you can miss 12 shots. So if you miss all 5 shots at 25 yards, you can miss 7 shots at 15 yards, and you still pass.
Why are you under the impression that all policeman are experts in marksmanship?
Specializes in E/R, Med/Surg, PCU, Mom-Baby, ICU, more.
Well you have written what you feel about carrying guns - you introduced to us all how much you like being able to shoot. Yet when criticized you call it 'insults' I am absolutely against health care workers carrying guns... is that plain enough???
Telling someone they have a "stupid mindset" just because you disagree with them is not criticizing.
Specializes in E/R, Med/Surg, PCU, Mom-Baby, ICU, more.
Why are you are 'a gun nut?" do you feel more powerful? what is it that makes you carry a concealed handgun when not at work - so pleased the locked psychiatric inpatient unit has veto gun-toting nurses....
Why are you an anti-gun nut? Are you that naive to think police arrive in mere seconds? Your spelling of certain words show that you are outside of the United States. You should mind your own business and just worry about the country you live in rather than push your views on others.
I want to gauge opinions based on our CURRENT situation after the shooting yesterday in San Bernadino, CA. 
heron, ASN, RN
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I agree, guns don't kill people, but as some of us keep trying to point out, overconfident and inexperienced shooters just might do e a fly that ... in my view, not an acceptable risk in a caregiving situation.