Concealed Carry for Caregivers

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I've been a lurker for awhile, and I know that this post has been brought up 1-2 times in the last 2 years that I've been an RN. So... you grouchy old farts that would rather I'd revive an old post can just stuff a sock in it.:D I want to gauge opinions based on our CURRENT situation after the shooting yesterday in San Bernadino, CA.

Truth be told, One single caregiver with a concealed carry permit could have shut this couple down before they hit 14 fatalities.

I plan on getting my CC in January, but I know as an RN, should my handgun be discovered, I'll probably lose my license. It will stay in my car when I am at work. If someone wants to carry out mayhem at my workplace, we are ALL sitting ducks. It is not ok or fair. What are your thoughts?

Well if I knew that you 'a nurse' went to work with a handgun and I was a patient I would have crawl out of that hospital - guns in hospitals you have to be crazy.

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The crusades were almost 1000 years ago and that was during much different times. How can you even began to compare that with the killing that are HAPPENING NOW!!!

Timoth McVeigh, Dylan Roof, Planned Parenthood Shooting. Are those recent enough for you?

An illustration of how things would be if we had no such thing as high capacity assault rifles in circulation:

The Best Gun Control Commercial Ever Produced

The San Bernardino shootings were at a medical facility.

The San Bernardino shootings were in a conference room the San Bernardino County Dept of Public Health rented out for county environmental health service workers Christmas party. I don't know if that qualifies as a medical facility? The Inland Regional Center employees social workers, who work with nurses SLP, OT, PT, etc., I don't know (think) that nurses, SLP, OT, PT have even have offices in the building. And the shooting wasn't in the Regional Center building, it was a public conference room that happened to be on the same campus.

It is a broad paint brush to say the shootings were at a "medical" facility.

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Highest Homicide rates by city (rate is per 100,000):

St Louis 49.93

Detroit 43.50

New Orleans 39.61

Baltimore 33.92

I find it instructive to compare these cities in Texas, where nobody would claim they have stiff gun laws, into the mix. I have them coupled to the previously mentioned cities that are of the same or nearly same size in population:

St. Louis (318,574) 50.0/100k

Corpus Christi, TX (319,211) 8.45/100k

Cleveland (388,655) 16.23/100k

Arlington, TX (382,976) 3.40/100k

Memphis (654,922) 21.37/100k

El Paso, TX (680,273) 3.08/100k

Chicago (2,724,121) 15.08/100k

Houston, TX (2,219,933) 10.9/100k

Did anybody say something about the Wild West? Texas, with all their guns, looks relatively safe compared to other cities around the country, with varying degrees of gun control.

I got my numbers from the FBI's website:

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-8/Table_8_Offenses_Known_to_Law_Enforcement_by_State_by_City_2014.xls/view

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True. Other than Syria and Iraq (until 3 years ago) Christians were invisible in most Muslim countries. Now they are a de facto target for the Islamists. Just the facts.

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These quotes don't look very peaceful to me:

The Quran's Verses of Violence

Have you ever researched the Old Testament of the Bible for verses of violence?

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True. Other than Syria and Iraq (until 3 years ago) Christians were invisible in most Muslim countries. Now they are a de facto target for the Islamists. Just the facts.

Are you attempting to hijack a thread about concealed carry to an anti-Muslim discussion?

Start your own thread.

Are you attempting to hijack a thread about concealed carry to an anti-Muslim discussion?

Start your own thread.

You're pretty tough for being "afraid of guns".

:cheeky:

I agree. This is not the thread for this.

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Something else to consider after your great response....those in the public eye who are trying the hardest to take guns away from law abiding citizens are often they themselves being protected by ARMED guards.

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Something else to consider after your great response....those in the public eye who are trying the hardest to take guns away from law abiding citizens are often they themselves being protected by ARMED guards.

No one is trying to "take guns away from law abiding citizens," but we do want background checks. Nearly 70% of the public believe that background checks are necessary. At gun shows, private sales and sales over the Internet, there are no background checks. These sales must either be disallowed, or background checks should be mandatory for all private, gun show and Internet sales. At gun shows, the gun could be shipped to the buyer after the mandatory background check and the same rules would apply to private and Internet sales.

I am nearly 80 and I am not "protected by any armed guards," other than the local police in my area.

No one is trying to "take guns away from law abiding citizens," but we do want background checks. Nearly 70% of the public believe that background checks are necessary. At gun shows, private sales and sales over the Internet, there are no background checks. These sales must either be disallowed, or background checks should be mandatory for all private, gun show and Internet sales. At gun shows, the gun could be shipped to the buyer after the mandatory background check and the same rules would apply to private and Internet sales.

I am nearly 80 and I am not "protected by any armed guards," other than the local police in my area.

She was talking about liberal celebrities, methinks. Sarah Palin said something to the effect of this on some talk show or other.

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