One day I was sitting at a Starbucks near a State run hospital. I saw two healthcare professionals walk in in their scrubs. I don't know what their position was but they had what looked like body cams near the v-cut part of the neck of the top scrub near their badge. Those little Nokia sized devices that police wear. It caught my attention because I know some patients(like meth heads on withdrawal) can't be the nicest people in the world when they don't get what they want when they want it on your shift. I'll admit I was far away but it looked like either a body cam or a walkie talkie but I thought why would they use something that would be loud? A body cam, in this day and age, would sound ingenious. It would be like liability coverage for the professional and the facility.
It was like an eyeopening experience in the field I look forward to growing old with knowing the difficulties I'd experience. Patients would know they're being recorded so they couldn't start with their pathological wants and needs they think they can smuggle by using a stressed out professional in the setting.
Then I thought of the people like security in suits at casinos who watch players. Using those corded walkie talkies to remain discreet and undercover. If hospitals give nurses and doctors including the management ones in charge of the others those kinds of walkie talkies, the nursing field would probably be a lot less stressful.
What do you guy think? With people on tv being shot by police and rants about it on the media and the news, it seems body cams are the perfect insurance when you know your job is always on the line. It would seem to make sense considering police, physicians and nurses all have STRESSFUL jobs. I always had this thought that healthcare professionals had to deal with abuse from combative patients but now I see hope out of that. I don't want to be beaten if there's a way I can get around it.
Also, how do you guys deal with combative patients? How do you deal with the yelling and screaming? and the hitting? I learned in my friends CNA school that stepping away from a patient if they're being abusive is considered neglect. I might not have that right but I know stepping out of the room if their being combative is neglect.
I also learned that straps on the beds used against the patient I believe can only be used by doctor's order and that requires a lot of paperwork because strapping a patient to a bed would be considered abuse and neglect.
I'm starting CNA school soon so I hope I can get some good answers on here that I might not get in CNA school.
I think it's time for the AtomicStig to find a new site to frequent. This one is not for him. Yes he is baiting us.
Either that or he needs to pick a career he actually KNOWS something about to be his *this is what I want to do with my life!* Because at this point he hasn't given any viable reason he wants to choose nursing, yet has several very strange hangups about it.
i had a lady who kept forgetting her leg was amputated and kept trying to walk.
my own Mother didn't recognize my brother, her son, at the end of her illness.
and yes, they can be violent. They don't mean to be, but they can become scared and frightened and respond in the only way they know to protect themselves.
I've seen some of these posts on here where nurses, lpn's and CNA's have been fired for something related to something a non-healthcare professional would do that they don't know is actually abuse(the non-healthcare professional not knowing it's actually abuse). The things I've read in a CNA's handbook of what not to do towards a patient when they're being hostile are baffling. Stepping back or away from a hostile patient in their room is considered neglect? Or if they're being aggressive and you step outside their room until they calm down, that's considered abuse? Or neglect? No, unbelievable. Ok so the second one might sound like a no no. That might not be verbatim from what I've read but I think we all know what I mean. How did you feel when you read some of the things you can't do towards patients in situations you're unsure of how to handle? You probably thought about career change. There's something I'm not being told but I'm sure I"ll learn it in nursing school. Right now, when I go to school to learn the job and start working, I feel like I'll have to hug a angry dementia patient holding a syringe(used or new) as a stabbing weapon who can't remember a few hours ago instead of some way the program or actual employer I'll be working for could tell me. When I graduate, maybe my mind will be fully changed and I'll know but right now I have no idea how to handle them.
I think it's pretty back breaking to breakdown something to someone who forgets. I mean how bad can Alzheimers make someone forget? I've read some posts where nurses, cna's and lpns, or at least one of them, was clawed at and scratched from a woman because the patient thought she was sleeping with her husband when her husband died a decade ago. Make believe post or real things?
I'm a guy and I'm hoping male patients who are elderly won't treat me like that. I'd be the type who would tell him "I don't care about your wife or your family, I'm here to do my job FOR YOU so let me do it." 1. I'd probably get fired 2. He'd probably not get the hint.. what the heck am I supposed to do?
If I was allowed to say that only towards severe dementia patients, it wouldn't be G rated like that. I'd probably come equipped with heavy verbal language.
I really hope guys who are nurses, lpns, or cna's have less issues with patients than women do, no offense ladies.
You cannot possibly be serious with this post. Please tell me it's a joke.
You're planning on stabbing patients who have dementia with needles? Oh and thankfully you added the caveat "new or used needle" because yeah, I really would have been left wondering.
You really think that people make up posts about patients with Alzheimers becoming combative? Take a look at your own posts before you go around accusing others of "make believe" posts about a very real thing.
You hope that guys in healthcare have fewer issues with patients than women? Yeah uhhhh, offense taken for good reason. And yeah you're right, you will definitely get fired if you handle situations with verbal and physical abuse. Not only that, you will lose whatever license you have if you plan on practicing that way.
Again, I'm just waiting/hoping for the "gotcha" post from op.
You cannot possibly be serious with this post. Please tell me it's a joke.
You're planning on stabbing patients who have dementia with needles? Oh and thankfully you added the caveat "new or used needle" because yeah, I really would have been left wondering.
You really think that people make up posts about patients with Alzheimers becoming combative? Take a look at your own posts before you go around accusing others of "make believe" posts about a very real thing.
You hope that guys in healthcare have fewer issues with patients than women? Yeah uhhhh, offense taken for good reason. And yeah you're right, you will definitely get fired if you handle situations with verbal and physical abuse. Not only that, you will lose whatever license you have if you plan on practicing that way.
Again, I'm just waiting/hoping for the "gotcha" post from op.
How are you an RN? Did I say I was going to stab a patient with a needle? How are you an RN? Why is an RN, who luckily got through nursing school, is saying to me, who isn't an RN but wants to be one, "This post can't be serious". Are you serious? How are you an RN? I didn't even write that I would stab a patient. And then you're going to post your comment because you have your BSN and I don't. I understand you flaunt but you were new as well to this field. Cop a cocky attitude because "hey, I got my RN and you don't, stig" I swear half the RNs on here have to be dyslexic and extremely VILE. I come here for advice and I get ripped apart. For what? For being new? Like you can't come on here without being scolded.
How are you an RN? Did I say I was going to stab a patient with a needle? How are you an RN? Why is an RN, who luckily got through nursing school, is saying to me, who isn't an RN but wants to be one, "This post can't be serious". Are you serious? How are you an RN? I didn't even write that I would stab a patient. And then you're going to post your comment because you have your BSN and I don't. I understand you flaunt but you were new as well to this field. Cop a cocky attitude because "hey, I got my RN and you don't, stig" I swear half the RNs on here have to be dyslexic and extremely VILE. I come here for advice and I get ripped apart. For what? For being new? Like you can't come on here without being scolded.
I became an RN after I passed the NCLEX, thanks for asking. I am not flaunting anything and this has nothing to do with having a BSN.
"I feel like I'll have to hug a angry dementia patient holding a syringe(used or new) as a stabbing weapon"
Those are your words, not mine.
"If I was allowed to say that only towards severe dementia patients, it wouldn't be G rated like that. I'd probably come equipped with heavy verbal language."
Those are also your words. If I'm taking your post literally, I'm seeing a lot of potential problems.
I'm not ripping you apart and I'm also not dyslexic. If you meant for your post to be figurative, then please clarify. If not, then I see some potential problems with how you might practice as a professional in a health care setting.
"I feel like I'll have to hug a angry dementia patient holding a syringe(used or new) as a stabbing weapon"
Those are your words, not mine.
If I said I was the one holding the syringe then it would obviously have said "I feel like I'll have to hug an angry dementia patient WHILE holding a syringe.." but I was obviously stating a dementia patient, who scientifically has lost their mind, would use a syringe with needle inserted, as a weapon feeling as if they're being cornered.
You really need to stop hazing. This website was designed for educational purposes. Not some fraternity where you can flaunt your "seniority" and "prestige". If I was an RN I'd keep my ego to myself.
Why is an RN, who luckily got through nursing school, is saying to me, who isn't an RN but wants to be one, "This post can't be serious"
I truly hope you are baiting us. Assuming you are not...
Many of your posts make you come across not as merely new, but as a loose cannon. Between your reaction to romantic rejection and imagined R-rated language with elders w/ dementia and completely flying off the handle on AntelopeTongue... you sound like you have serious impulse control issues that must be taken care of-- if you want a future in this profession.
If I said I was the one holding the syringe then it would obviously have said "I feel like I'll have to hug an angry dementia patient WHILE holding a syringe.." but I was obviously stating a dementia patient, who scientifically has lost their mind, would use a syringe with needle inserted, as a weapon feeling as if they're being cornered.
You really need to stop hazing. This website was designed for educational purposes. Not some fraternity where you can flaunt your "seniority" and "prestige". If I was an RN I'd keep my ego to myself.
Whenever you get angry about something you bring up nurses and egos-not just in this thread, but in others as well. It seems to me that you feel the need to put down others who have done the schooling you have not even started. Find a psychiatrist and talk to him about your deep rooted insecurities.
If I said I was the one holding the syringe then it would obviously have said "I feel like I'll have to hug an angry dementia patient WHILE holding a syringe.." but I was obviously stating a dementia patient, who scientifically has lost their mind, would use a syringe with needle inserted, as a weapon feeling as if they're being cornered.
You really need to stop hazing. This website was designed for educational purposes. Not some fraternity where you can flaunt your "seniority" and "prestige". If I was an RN I'd keep my ego to myself.
There are obviously bigger issues at hand here. It's clear that no amount of reasoning will get through to you and I promise, you are reading this all wrong.
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I think it's time for the AtomicStig to find a new site to frequent. This one is not for him. Yes he is baiting us.