According to South Korean news agency, a pregnant patient with a 6-week-old fetus had gone to a clinic in the country's capital Seoul. A mix-up in medical charts and failure to check her identity led to the mistaken abortion.
The patient was supposed to receive a nutritional shot at the clinic. The nurse had allegedly injected her with anesthesia without confirming her identity, and the doctor had performed the abortion without checking her identity either.
Asian countries and their brand of socialized medicine are very different than VA or western style. I was stationed in South Korea and the culture is a whole different mindset. As an American, it was hard to wrap my mind around. This is the point of view that I put out there. Do I know for a fact this is how/what happened? No. Is it a possibility? Yes
And as far as it goes, I've seen some really dog turd things happen in VA facilities as well, since I do partake of their services, as well as it occasionally gets reported on the news
Thank you. Very interesting perspective. Do we have anything quantitative re: errors in the VA vs. other teaching hospitals?
Errors happen in every healthcare setting, to varying degrees. Thus sentinel events and reporting, etc. Also, ambulance chasing lawyers...
Well, fer sure they happen everywhere but not identifying the patient is not one seen wherever one lives. Wrong side of the head craniotomies still happen despite time outs (I don't believe they've made any significant difference) because people are in denial about their ability to make an error and we work in super rushed mode all day).
I hope I am not breaking any TOS here. If I am I apologise in advance.
I will be frank about what SK does, read at your own choice, it is a little disturbing. (When I first learned about this year's ago I refused to believe it, it was so unimaginable , I couldn't really wrap my head around it.
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They eat cats and dogs as festive food in SK and other countries around it.
I personally boycott all countries who decide that skinning cats and dogs alive and boiling them alive is just.
Yes we do the same with lobsters! (I know we are not perfect, I and PETA are working at it).
I'm not a vegetarian, but skinning animals alive and throwing them in hot water while still alive, that's cruelty. That's not consuming animals , as an animal would "consume" you if you were in their path/on their menu. There is a difference.
Why do you expect they actually care about human life of they can't respect animal life?
I don't believe this and cannot find any evidence online that this practice exists in SK. I believe it is probably political propaganda by their enemies. Eating a dog is very different from skinning a live animal.
I wonder what prudent nurses in ROK think when they read that here in the US we do things like inject a nearly-well patient with vecuronium and then walk away while they die.
This OP story is tragic. We here should just use extreme caution in wondering what it is about those other people over there in that weird/unfamiliar country that made it happen.
The wrongly-performed abortion is disturbing as a single tragic incident, and this thread is also disturbing.
I don't believe this and cannot find any evidence online that this practice exists in SK. I believe it is probably political propaganda by their enemies. Eating a dog is very different from skinning a live animal.
My Korean ex-husband says the skinning alive thing is not true. Eating dog yes... and this is different than eating a pig or a goat how?
On 6/17/2020 at 6:32 AM, Waiting for Retirement said:
I realize this event happened in another country but isn't it a basic thing for nurses and doctors everywhere to at least ask a person his or her name?? One question would have prevented this. One question from anyone!
When pedestrians are out and about, they must watch for dangerous drivers. I know it should be the other way around, but a driver may be distracted, sick, drunk or DUI of some other substance, etc. The one who is going to suffer the most has to look out at all times for dangers. That is the pedestrian.
Same with being a patient it seems. The patient cannot relax and just trust that everyone is doing everything right. Very scary but that is the complex world we live in.
I hope this poor woman is able to conceive again or maybe already has. I know it doesn't totally make up for the murdered baby, but I guess it might help some.
I hope I am not breaking any TOS here. If I am I apologise in advance.
I will be frank about what SK does, read at your own choice, it is a little disturbing. (When I first learned about this year's ago I refused to believe it, it was so unimaginable , I couldn't really wrap my head around it.
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They eat cats and dogs as festive food in SK and other countries around it.
I personally boycott all countries who decide that skinning cats and dogs alive and boiling them alive is just.
Yes we do the same with lobsters! (I know we are not perfect, I and PETA are working at it).
I'm not a vegetarian, but skinning animals alive and throwing them in hot water while still alive, that's cruelty. That's not consuming animals , as an animal would "consume" you if you were in their path/on their menu. There is a difference.
Why do you expect they actually care about human life of they can't respect animal life?
Mute point.
Mute means silent.
Moot means it doesn't matter.
I think you mean moot.
I think clams, oysters, lobsters get boiled alive, too. Just horrible.
My Korean ex-husband says the skinning alive thing is not true. Eating dog yes... and this is different than eating a pig or a goat how?
It’s different because of anti-Asian bias. It’s the same with the “wet market” panic: you can find fish and butcher markets in the US too. The increase in viral activity at seafood specific ones has to do with global warming destroying ocean life that typically filters out viruses and bacteria.
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Thank you. Very interesting perspective. Do we have anything quantitative re: errors in the VA vs. other teaching hospitals?