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Hi, any nurses here go to Chamberlain for FNP? If so, what was your experience? Did you feel prepared for the clinicals and when you graduated?

Specializes in MSN, FNP-BC.
10 hours ago, Googlenurse said:

What’s the cost if you go from BSN to NP?

 

Last I remember, they were charging $45000 for the  ADN to BSN route. I backed away and went with WGU instead. ) I paid $14,000. 
 

One of the best decisions I ever made!

I was curious, so I looked it up. The BSN to NP cost is about $44,000. That chunk of change is in private university territory or one of the pricier publics. I suppose the stricter admission and program requirements at a non-profit university is a deterrent, so many opt for Chamberlain.

https://www.chamberlain.edu/media/12886/ccn-total-cost-calculator.pdf

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16 hours ago, Googlenurse said:

What’s the cost if you go from BSN to NP?

 

Last I remember, they were charging $45000 for the  ADN to BSN route. I backed away and went with WGU instead. ) I paid $14,000. 
 

One of the best decisions I ever made!

It's how I did my BSN to MSN. Best way ever

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Specializes in Psychiatry.
22 hours ago, subee said:

But the person is asking about BS to NP.  Can anyone, anywhere become an NP for $14,000.

Plenty of in state programs are that cheap. And a lot more reputable than these online diploma mills. But they often require tests and references and interviews and actual selectivity and so many nurses just can’t be “bothered” with all that when becoming a medical provider.. 

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25 minutes ago, MentalKlarity said:

Plenty of in state programs are that cheap. And a lot more reputable than these online diploma mills. But they often require tests and references and interviews and actual selectivity and so many nurses just can’t be “bothered” with all that when becoming a medical provider.. 

It's a crazy weird cognitive dissonance where they want to be respected as a provider in a white coat but balk at the most basic methods of vetting or selectivity. Truly astonishing. People touting no LORs or other requirements in addition to fewer on-campus trips/clinical hours like it is a good thing.

I only see NPs at this point if I have either worked with them or know of their work personally. I have seen too many NPs pushed through poor programs to risk my own health or add the stress of having to correct every wrong thing they say or do.

Also noted when the OP makes posts like this and gets feedback, they disappear....every time. Truth is uncomfortable.

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4 hours ago, MentalKlarity said:

Plenty of in state programs are that cheap. And a lot more reputable than these online diploma mills. But they often require tests and references and interviews and actual selectivity and so many nurses just can’t be “bothered” with all that when becoming a medical provider.. 

$14,000 is incredibly cheap:)  I noticed on Chamberlain's website that PMHNP''s only needed 47 credits which makes it even more expensive to get an NP with such a small number of credits required.  Are nurses actually getting an MSN with less than 60 credits?  

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I find this statement from Chamberlain's website to be incredibly (and intentionally) misleading:

NP Pass Rates

The Overall Pass Rate for the FNP Exam for the 2019-2021 Calendar Years is 90.5% for all Chamberlain FNP programs and tracks. 

Instead of reporting the pass rate of a single year, as they have in previous years, they chose to report an "overall" pass rate for 3 consecutive years. I could be interpreting this incorrectly, but I think they are only counting those who passed eventually (second or third attempt) and intentionally omitted the statistics for those who passed on their first try.

Why would they do this? Perhaps because the pass rate for first-time attempts is much lower, like 80% or less, and that would not be as marketable. If they group three years together, they can count everyone who failed their first attempt as a successful passer, assuming they passed the second or third time within the three-year period.

Just an observation...

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3 minutes ago, DNPgrad2022 said:

I find this statement from Chamberlain's website to be incredibly (and intentionally) misleading:

NP Pass Rates

The Overall Pass Rate for the FNP Exam for the 2019-2021 Calendar Years is 90.5% for all Chamberlain FNP programs and tracks. 

Instead of reporting the pass rate of a single year, as they have in previous years, they chose to report an "overall" pass rate for 3 consecutive years. I could be interpreting this incorrectly, but I think they are only counting those who passed eventually (second or third attempt) and intentionally omitted the statistics for those who passed on their first try.

Why would they do this? Perhaps because the pass rate for first-time attempts is much lower, like 80% or less, and that would not be as marketable. If they group three years together, they can count everyone who failed their first attempt as a successful passer, assuming they passed the second or third time within the three-year period.

Just an observation...

It’s definitely an attempt to obfuscate the quality of their program. My school (Frontier) posts clear stats about their graduation rates. While they graduate 900ish NPs and DNPS a year, only 200ish are FNPs. Since 2018, they’ve had a 100% first time pass rate for certification due FNPs. These are the things people need to research when they consider options for school. 

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16 minutes ago, djmatte said:

It’s definitely an attempt to obfuscate the quality of their program. My school (Frontier) posts clear stats about their graduation rates. While they graduate 900ish NPs and DNPS a year, only 200ish are FNPs. Since 2018, they’ve had a 100% first time pass rate for certification due FNPs. These are the things people need to research when they consider options for school. 

 

54 minutes ago, DNPgrad2022 said:

I find this statement from Chamberlain's website to be incredibly (and intentionally) misleading:

NP Pass Rates

The Overall Pass Rate for the FNP Exam for the 2019-2021 Calendar Years is 90.5% for all Chamberlain FNP programs and tracks. 

Instead of reporting the pass rate of a single year, as they have in previous years, they chose to report an "overall" pass rate for 3 consecutive years. I could be interpreting this incorrectly, but I think they are only counting those who passed eventually (second or third attempt) and intentionally omitted the statistics for those who passed on their first try.

Why would they do this? Perhaps because the pass rate for first-time attempts is much lower, like 80% or less, and that would not be as marketable. If they group three years together, they can count everyone who failed their first attempt as a successful passer, assuming they passed the second or third time within the three-year period.

Just an observation...

When my brother was applying for CRNA school, all the schools were transparent with their overall pass rate and 1st/2nd attempt pass rate over a 5-year period...

This is obfuscation 100%.

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For a college that graduates a substantial majority of the RN and NP workforce and has a marketing budget that could support a small country, why is Chamberlain University not submitting their data for state or national ranking on US News Best Colleges and Graduate Schools? It would be more respectable if they allowed themselves to be evaluated and ranked at the bottom 5% than it is to continue to evade any reputable attempts to analyze the quality of their programs and student outcomes.

Their BSN program holds a ranking of #661-681 out of 681 programs. In other words, dead last.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/nursing-overall?schoolName=chamberlain&_sort=rank&_sortDirection=asc

I can only imagine that if they participated in the graduate school rankings that the result would also place them somewhere close to dead last. To be included in the ranking, they would have to submit REAL student data, acceptance and retention rates, faculty qualifications (education, experience, active status in practice), and first-attempt board exam passing rates. A quick Google search will show you how aggressive their multi-million-dollar marketing campaign is at redirecting negative publicity and statistics. The top 20-30 search results will directly link back to their Chamberlain website, even if you search for something mildly inflammatory like “Chamberlain University under investigation” or “Chamberlain nursing loses accreditation.” I’ll save you some time- I found nothing.

This is not to say that US News Best Colleges is the best source of information for college rankings, but a revenue-generating school of this size should be willing to submit its data for review in a formal process that allows consumers to make an informed decision.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/chamberlain-university-6385/overall-rankings

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-nursing-schools/chamberlain-university-33617

If you want to review Chamberlain’s financial report from 2020, click the link below. It is a very lengthy read but quite interesting. While most college enrollments declined during the pandemic, Chamberlain’s enrollment soared! Make sure you check out their marketing, advertising, and recruitment expenditures. Good grief.

https://sec.report/Document/0001558370-20-010728/

 

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On 10/2/2022 at 10:24 AM, DNPgrad2022 said:

For a college that graduates a substantial majority of the RN and NP workforce and has a marketing budget that could support a small country, why is Chamberlain University not submitting their data for state or national ranking on US News Best Colleges and Graduate Schools? It would be more respectable if they allowed themselves to be evaluated and ranked at the bottom 5% than it is to continue to evade any reputable attempts to analyze the quality of their programs and student outcomes.

Their BSN program holds a ranking of #661-681 out of 681 programs. In other words, dead last.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/nursing-overall?schoolName=chamberlain&_sort=rank&_sortDirection=asc

I can only imagine that if they participated in the graduate school rankings that the result would also place them somewhere close to dead last. To be included in the ranking, they would have to submit REAL student data, acceptance and retention rates, faculty qualifications (education, experience, active status in practice), and first-attempt board exam passing rates. A quick Google search will show you how aggressive their multi-million-dollar marketing campaign is at redirecting negative publicity and statistics. The top 20-30 search results will directly link back to their Chamberlain website, even if you search for something mildly inflammatory like “Chamberlain University under investigation” or “Chamberlain nursing loses accreditation.” I’ll save you some time- I found nothing.

This is not to say that US News Best Colleges is the best source of information for college rankings, but a revenue-generating school of this size should be willing to submit its data for review in a formal process that allows consumers to make an informed decision.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/chamberlain-university-6385/overall-rankings

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-nursing-schools/chamberlain-university-33617

If you want to review Chamberlain’s financial report from 2020, click the link below. It is a very lengthy read but quite interesting. While most college enrollments declined during the pandemic, Chamberlain’s enrollment soared! Make sure you check out their marketing, advertising, and recruitment expenditures. Good grief.

https://sec.report/Document/0001558370-20-010728/

 

I mean, this is not news. Chamberlain basically behaves similar to a diploma mill. I called once (as a joke) just to see what it was like and the lady on the phone basically acted like a sales person telling me how easy it would be to get into the NP Program, and the continued to hound me through calls and emails for months telling me how they had new cohorts starting basically every few weeks. It is like a giant NP factory - they found a cash-cow program that people will pay tons of money for and they put in minimal works since the nursing boards don't seem to care at all about program quality, clinicals, etc. 

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56 minutes ago, MentalKlarity said:

I mean, this is not news. Chamberlain basically behaves similar to a diploma mill. I called once (as a joke) just to see what it was like and the lady on the phone basically acted like a sales person telling me how easy it would be to get into the NP Program, and the continued to hound me through calls and emails for months telling me how they had new cohorts starting basically every few weeks. It is like a giant NP factory - they found a cash-cow program that people will pay tons of money for and they put in minimal works since the nursing boards don't seem to care at all about program quality, clinicals, etc. 

Isn't it amazing that nurses defend this? I honestly think it's a weird cope mixed with buyer's remorse. When your school is like a used car salesman, that is a problem.

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I really feel this school should be evaluated by the board of nursing....not jealous but concerned because a lot of my colleagues attend this school and they mention things like writing one paper to pass a pharmacotherapeutics class or doing an online sim for physical assessment...I mean...I've had to pass exams brick and mortar style ...had to memorizes classes for antibiotics, what microorganisms it targetted what to prescribe when patients are allergic etc...etc...I mean this fishy school is very well known among the nursing community for easy open book degrees LOL...I've had colleagues work full time over time and complete their degree in a year...I mean IDK....I really don't....my NP Program was hard!! Average was 80s on exam...and people studied their *** off and to thibk somewhere in the us people are taking exams while sipping their margaritas at home....IDK it just doesnt sit right with me...

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