Calling yourself a "nurse"

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maybe its just me, but i get very bothered when someone says "i'm a nurse," and their not, their a cna, or nurse aid, or have no schooling at all and just worked their way up in a clinic. i work at a local emergency clinic 30 hours a week to gain experience in my field, and i just got accepted in ns, and i'v worked darn hard to get here! and i find it bothersome when one of the girls at work say "i'm the nurse" or something along those lines...i feel that when i graduate and pass my nclex that, only then, will i be able to say "i'm a nurse." the other day my doctor said "jamie, will you get a nurse?" i said "im sorry doc, i dont think we have any of those working here." he actually laughed and said "you know what i mean"......but is this just me?????:uhoh3:

Specializes in icu, er, transplant, case management, ps.
Well, a molded cheese sandwich is a delicacy! I hope to get all that I can get. And, with free lodgings, and plenty of room mates, I should feel right at home. I have lots to look forward to in my 'new' career:trout:

Not really. There is a sheriff, in the county Phoenix is in, who dyes the inmates underwear pink, claiming they were stealing him blind when they were white. Who brags about feeding them on less then $3 a day and who does house them in tents. I can't imagine someone stealing dirty underwear or eating for less then $3 a day. And living in tents. I know just how hot it is, outside of Phoenix, at night. And I cring when ever I have to listen to him spout off about how he handles his prisoners. Call me a liberal but no one, who has any chronic illness and requires a special diet, can eat on less then $3 a day. I think he enjoys humiliating people and so do most of the people of the county he serves, since they keep re-electing him. But the last time I drove thru that county, I didn't see many homes without air conditioning and the supermarkets were jammed. And I drove thru it in 2001.

Woody:balloons:

Specializes in ER, ICU, L&D, OR.
Not really. There is a sheriff, in the county Phoenix is in, who dyes the inmates underwear pink, claiming they were stealing him blind when they were white. Who brags about feeding them on less then $3 a day and who does house them in tents. I can't imagine someone stealing dirty underwear or eating for less then $3 a day. And living in tents. I know just how hot it is, outside of Phoenix, at night. And I cring when ever I have to listen to him spout off about how he handles his prisoners. Call me a liberal but no one, who has any chronic illness and requires a special diet, can eat on less then $3 a day. I think he enjoys humiliating people and so do most of the people of the county he serves, since they keep re-electing him. But the last time I drove thru that county, I didn't see many homes without air conditioning and the supermarkets were jammed. And I drove thru it in 2001.

Woody:balloons:

So the prisoners are in jail.They committed crimes.

should we book them suites at the Hilton

maybe they can get advice from Paris

Specializes in ob/gyn med /surg.

i never bashed LPN's either.. i was one for 21 years.. i am now a RN and i love the LPN's i work with...

And it is 100% legal. How infuriating is that?

It doesn't infuriate me at all. I can call myself a chimpanzee. Doesn't make it so.

Specializes in LTC, CPR instructor, First aid instructor..
well, she lists herself as a nursing student.

i don't see the problem with the assistant compiling pt. histories, they aren't going to interpret them or prescribe.

anyone can learn to set up treatments. families do it all the time.

i think this thread has far too many people who are nitpicking.

if someone leads the public to believe they are an lpn or an rn then yes they can be prosecuted.

but what would they have done with florence? no education or exams to qualify her as a nurse.

excellent post. then what about mother theresa who gave up all her wealth and went and helped the people dying of aids and leprosy?
excellent post. then what about mother theresa who gave up all her wealth and went and helped the people dying of aids and leprosy?

ooowww. an excellent point. would it be illegal to call mother theresa a nurse?

i continue to read the posts, and still don't get it. as a nurse, i am not offended that we would call this saint "nurse". and, if we can call her a nurse, then we must call others like her "nurse".

had she fruadulently claimed to be a registered nurse, then it would be unlawful.

again, restrict the titles, not the term "nurse".

(btw-i chose not to list my credentials, as this site contains a wonderful variety of opinions, unfortunately, some of those opinions place mucho credence on a person's title rather than the post itself.)

and what of the nightingale oath?

Specializes in icu, er, transplant, case management, ps.
So the prisoners are in jail.They committed crimes.

should we book them suites at the Hilton

maybe they can get advice from Paris

No, we shouldn't book them into suites at the Hilton. And yes, they are prisoners in jail but that doesn't mean that a sheriff has the right to humiliate them. Or house them in tents. Have you ever been in Phoenix, at night, in 99 degree heat, at night? I have. And at worse, prisoners should be afforded at a minimum, fans, which they are not. And I believe that every human being, regardless of who or where they are, deserves to be treated as a human being, not as some cast out. Not as a second class citizen. But then again, I do not believe that prisoners held by Bush, should be treated as they are. Color me a nasty, dirty liberal.

Woody:balloons:

Color me a nasty, dirty liberal.

And proud!

Specializes in ER/ medical telemetry.

here is the real definition of a nurse, if anyone wants to be technical.

nurse

(from wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

in the health care professions, a
nurse
is someone who practices nursing professionally. nurses are responsible for the safety and recovery of acutely or injured people, health maintenance of the healthy, and treatment of life-threatening emergencies in all health care settings. nurses develop a plan of care and are often the only providers who do so collaboratively with physicians, therapists, the patient, and other team members. in the u.s., advanced practice nurses (apn's), such as clinical nurse specialists and nurse practitioners, diagnose problems and prescribe drugs or therapies. nurses coordinate the patient care performed by other members of a health care team (therapists, dietitians, etc.). nurses provide care both interdependently, e.g., with physicians, and independently as nursing professionals.

in other parts of the world, the educational background for nurses varies widely. in some parts of eastern europe, nurses are high school students with 12 to 18 months of training. in chile, in contrast, all registered nurses have a minimum of a bachelor's degree.

types of nurses (and non-nurses)

nurses in the united states exist on several distinct levels, distinguished by increasing education, responsibility and skills. the major distinction is between task-based nursing and professional nursing.

nursing assistants
,
orderlies
, and "patient- care assistants" are not nurses. in acute-care hospitals, their duties are limited to tasks delegated by the registered or licensed practical nurse. most orderlies are trained to perform heavy patient-movement or other muscular tasks. orderlies were originally the "police" of hospitals, to keep the patients "orderly." certified nursing assistants assist nurses by taking vital signs, administering hygienic care, assisting with feeding, giving basic psychosocial care, and similar duties. see also candystriper; hospital volunteers.

technicians and specialized therapists may wear uniforms similar to those of nurses, but are not considered nurses. for example, certified medication aides are trained to administer medications but have no training in nursing decision-making. there are also blood collection technicians, and technicians trained to operate most kinds of diagnostic and laboratory equipment. respiratory and physical therapists perform only specific procedures.

licensed practical nurses
(lpn; they are known as licensed vocational nurses, lvn, in california and texas) exist in most states. these usually have two years of training in body function & structure, drugs and practical patient care. they must pass state or national boards and renew their license periodically. they can perform simple as well as complex medical procedures and usually operate under the supervision of professional registered nurses (rns) or physicians. they can administer most medications, perform measurements (blood pressure, temperature, etc), record-keeping, help with patient-care planning, first aid, cpr, sterile and isolation procedure and basic care. licensed practical nurses are often found working under the supervision of physicians in clinics. in long term care facilities, they sometimes supervise nursing assistants and orderlies.

registered nurses
are professional nurses who often supervise the tasks performed by lpns, orderlies and nursing assistants. they provide direct care and make decisions regarding plans of care for individuals and groups of healthy, ill and injured people. they have bachelor degrees or associate degrees in nursing including many hours of clinical experience. they are the largest group of healthcare workers in the united states, numbering over 2.6 million. it is estimated that an additional 750,000 rns will be needed by 2005 in the u.s. much research has shown that rns are the first-line defense of hospitalized patients against disability or death from infection, cardiopulmonary arrest, and other serious complications. higher ratios of registered nurses to patients has been shown to decrease certain complications of illness including death in patients. registered nurses are educators, managers, executives, therapists, intensive care experts, symptom managers, professional mentors, researchers and community members. in hospitals, registered nurses perform diverse roles such as writing policies, responding to emergencies, managing professional, technical and ancillary staff, determining budgets, performing strategic planning, and supervising construction projects.

advanced practice nurses
perform primary health care, mental health services, diagnosis and prescribing, carry out research, and educate the public and other professionals. some apns diagnose illness and prescribe drugs. apns possess a masters' degree or higher in nursing, and may sit for additional certification examinations. these exams allow an apn to practice independently in a specialty. they may operate as a certified nurse midwife (cnm), nurse-practitioner (np), clinical nurse specialist (cns) or certified registered nurse anesthetist (crna).

all advanced practice certifications require continuing education and other requirements (such as periodic reexamination) to maintain the credential. advanced practice nurses can expect to earn above-average salaries, especially as the population of the us ages and the demand for highly-skilled healthcare workers grows proportionally.

at the top of the educational ladder is the
doctorally-prepared nurse.
nurses may gain the phd or another doctoral degree (doctor of nursing science, nursing doctor), specializing in research and/or clinical nursing treatment. these nurses practice nursing, teach nursing and carry out nursing research. as the science of nursing has advanced, so has the demand for doctorally-prepared nurses.

according to the us department of labor's revised occupational outlook handbook (2000), "registered nurses (r.n.s) work to promote health, prevent disease, and help patients cope with illness. they are advocates and health educators for patients, families, and communities. when providing direct patient care, they observe, assess, and record symptoms, responses, and progress; assist physicians during treatments and examinations; administer medications; and assist in convalescence and rehabilitation. r.n.s also develop and manage nursing care plans; instruct patients and their families in proper care; and help individuals and groups take steps to improve or maintain their health."

all us states and territories require rns to graduate from an accredited nursing program which allows the candidate to sit for the nclex examination, a standardized examination administered through the national council of state boards of nursing. successful completion of the nclex examination confers state licensure as an
rn
. nurses may be licensed in more than one state, either by examination or endorsement of a license issued by another state. licenses must be periodically renewed. some states require continuing education in order to renew licenses.

registered nurses may receive their basic preparation through one of three avenues:

  1. graduation from an associate-degree nursing program (approximately 3 years of college level study with a strong emphasis on clinical knowledge and skills)earning the degree of asn/aas in nursing.

  2. graduation with a three-year (diploma) certificate from a hospital-based school of nursing (non-degree). few of these programs remainin the u.s.

  3. graduation from a university with a bachelor's degree in nursing (a 4 - 5 year program conferring the bsn/bn degree with enhanced emphasis on leadership and research as well as clinically-focused courses).

all pathways into practice require that the candidate complete some clinical training in nursing. while in clinical training, student nurses are identified by a special uniform. graduates of all programs, once licensed, are generally eligible for employment as entry-level staff nurses.

it is common for rns to seek additional education to prepare themselves to assume leadership or advanced practice roles within nursing. management and teaching positions increasingly require candidates to hold an advanced degree in nursing. many hospitals offer tuition remission or assistance to nurses who want to continue their education beyond their basic preparation.

nurses from other countries who want to take the us nursing licensure exam are required to be proficient in english and have their educational credentials evaluated by an association known as the council of graduates of foreign nursing schools (
www.cgfns.org
) prior to being permitted to take the us licensing exam.

most rns work in a hospital. a registered nurse has a very portable job skill. in many cities, rns can enter their names in a "registry" and work a wide variety of temporary jobs. beside hospitals, rns work in schools, home health care, in office and occupational or industrial health settings, free-standing clinics and physician offices, nurse-run clinics, long-term care facilities, camps, and as advisors and consultants to the healthcare and insurance industries. some rns work with attorneys as legal nurse consultants, reviewing patient records to assure that adequate care was provided. some rns are attorneys.

there are many different nursing specialties, encompassing care throughout the human lifespan and based upon patient needs. many nurses who choose a specialty become certified in that specialty, signifying that they possess expert knowledge of the specialty. there are over 200 nursing specialties and sub-specialties. certified nurses often earn a salary differential over their non-certified colleagues, and studies from the institute of medicine have demonstrated that specialty certified nurses have higher rates of patient satisfaction, as well as lower rates of work-related errors in patient care.

in premodern times, nuns and the military often provided nursing services. the religious and military roots of modern nursing remain in evidence today. for example, in great britain, nurses are known as "sisters." florence nightingale is regarded as the founder of modern nursing, which flourished in response to the
world wars.

Specializes in icu, er, transplant, case management, ps.
and proud!

hey, i wear my t-shirt, every monday when i go out:

color me the dirty, old, ugly and proud liberal.

and considering i live right smack in the middle of a very blue state

woody:balloons:

Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.
Not really. There is a sheriff, in the county Phoenix is in, who dyes the inmates underwear pink, claiming they were stealing him blind when they were white. Who brags about feeding them on less then $3 a day and who does house them in tents. I can't imagine someone stealing dirty underwear or eating for less then $3 a day. And living in tents. I know just how hot it is, outside of Phoenix, at night. And I cring when ever I have to listen to him spout off about how he handles his prisoners. Call me a liberal but no one, who has any chronic illness and requires a special diet, can eat on less then $3 a day. I think he enjoys humiliating people and so do most of the people of the county he serves, since they keep re-electing him. But the last time I drove thru that county, I didn't see many homes without air conditioning and the supermarkets were jammed. And I drove thru it in 2001.

Woody:balloons:

I still live in New York. I'll get plenty of cheese sandwiches.

Specializes in icu, er, transplant, case management, ps.
I still live in New York. I'll get plenty of cheese sandwiches.

And I doubt that the number and variety of restaurants has decreased that much. I also still eat cheese sandwiches, just not every day, unlike those prisoners. I don't understand what they expect. They want health care, drugs to treat their AIDES, cable TV, libraries, weight rooms to buff themselves up. Like they should be put in a cell for twenty-three hours a day. They don't behave and they are, after all, prisoners. Why waste our tax dollars molly colling them.

And I have a lovely lot for sale down here in Florida. It is located right next to Starke Prison.

Woody:balloons:

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