maybe its just me, but i get very bothered when someone says "i'm a nurse," and their not, their a cna, or nurse aid, or have no schooling at all and just worked their way up in a clinic. i work at a local emergency clinic 30 hours a week to gain experience in my field, and i just got accepted in ns, and i'v worked darn hard to get here! and i find it bothersome when one of the girls at work say "i'm the nurse" or something along those lines...i feel that when i graduate and pass my nclex that, only then, will i be able to say "i'm a nurse." the other day my doctor said "jamie, will you get a nurse?" i said "im sorry doc, i dont think we have any of those working here." he actually laughed and said "you know what i mean"......but is this just me?????
Lets see if I understand you correctly. If a lie comes from believable sourse then it becomes a fact. Is this right. I can see your point, We have all been told that The war in Afghanistan and Iraq was strictly due to 9-11,. We have been told the war in Iraq was to stop proliferation of nuclear threat, , we have been told this war is necessary for human rights, .. We have all been told this by someone who says they are the president, Therefore everything the President Bushie says is a fact. Again False:balloons::down:
With all due respect, I was just hoping to help clarify. It seems you and Woody have quite the debate. I just want to learn more about people using the title nurse...not interested in political debates here on a nursing board.
Employers are suppposed to accomodate disabilities, but after scores of interviews a nursing job was not going to happen for me. They have their "reasons" without citing the disability, thus CYA from a lawsuit.
I am not complaining about them not doing their time. I am complaining that they are treated as third class citizens. And not even citizens. I realize you live in Texas and it certainly is hot in Texas. But I have been thru Arizona during different times of the year over the years from 1958 to 2001. I wouldn't let my pet dog sleep outside during the summer in Arizona. While the humidity is low, it is just too damn hot, even at night. And as a nurse, I wonder how much this great sheriff spends on health care, when his prisoners suffer from dehydration? Or how much he spends on the health care needs of his prisoners? You see, despite his contention, we are a country governed by laws. Laws that even the sheriff has to follow. Sorry if I think that prisoners should be treated as human beings. I'm funny that way. It is the liberal in me. As a matter of fact, I also do not believe in the death penalty.
With all due respect, I was just hoping to help clarify. It seems you and Woody have quite the debate. I just want to learn more about people using the title nurse...not interested in political debates here on a nursing board.
But its entertaining...:)
Am I debating with Woody, I hadn't noticed particularly
Specializes in ICU, PICC Nurse, Nursing Supervisor.
your right , every time i re-load my page there it is a new "why don't you think i am a nurse" post by a cma... i hear ya
ok, sometimes i feel i'm obsessing about this subjuct. just when i think i'm "letting it go", there -before my eyes , is another post from a cma , who says they do the same thing a rn, just without the pay. that "they do the same thing only get stuck with the dirty jobs" or that they are "equal to lpn's". oh my gosh........ please let me at them !!!!!!. please......please.....
Specializes in icu, er, transplant, case management, ps.
I have listen to CMA's say they know just as much as I do and do my job, just as well, if not better then I do. I've listened to others say the same thing. But the funny thing, I am the one with the license and the pay. I am sorry to take issue with these assertions but they are not based on fact. I've six years of formal education, if you include the years spent in a diploma program, focusing on theory and clinical experience. I also have more then twenty-five years of clinical practice. I seriously doubt that a CMA has the skills or depth of knowledge that a nurse has but if someone thinks they do, feel free to petition your state to change their licensing laws so that you, an MA, can be licensed as a RN. Of course, I seriously doubt that any state would consider changing their laws.
What one learns in a M.A. program, is quite different from what is learned in a professional nurse program. And unlike the M.A.program, we are required to study the theory and have clinical practice in a variety of age groups and diseases, as well as learning the practical aspect of taking care of many different types diseases. And this is one of the major differences between us. You cannot walk into a unit and immediately begin to take care of patients. As an R.N., I can. I can walk into any unit, any clinical area, any office and assume the responsibilities of caring for patients. You cannot.
So when you say that you are equal to and can take the place of one of us, I suggest you examine the necessary skill sets. You will find yourselves behind, not equal to, a nurse. I am not dismissing your knowledge, just attempting to point out the educational and clinical skill differences. Now, please refer to yourselves as M.A.'s. You have earned the title and have reason to be proud of it. But do not confuse yourselves as being equal to nurses. You are not.
Specializes in ICU, SDU, OR, RR, Ortho, Hospice RN.
sorry for the confusion. I graduated with a BSN and in the first month on the job I had to have an arm amputated after an MVA. After lots of rehab, I am back in school to become a medical technologist at a place that will make accomadations for me.
Rehab nurses are terrific!
Megan
Megan I admire you for your guts and determination to push on with studies etc.
Did you keep your RN license active?
I do pray you find all the success under the sun. hugs :)
your right , every time i re-load my page there it is a new "why don't you think i am a nurse" post by a cma... i hear ya
but why get mad, i dont see it as a life altering problem. so i am not going to empower them to affect me that deeply. or maybe im just to shallow a guy
Okay, any ideas on this? My acquaintance's husband has multiple myeloma and is at a major medical center for bone marrow transplant. She has a website that gives updates, which is really cool. But then she will write something like " well, I have to get into my RNWIFE mode and take care of Stan". She is not a nurse, not in the medical field...
I don't plan on saying anything to her unless she crosses a line, such as some of the above examples in other posts "I do the same as an RN, etc". But it does irritate me.
Specializes in icu, er, transplant, case management, ps.
Okay, any ideas on this? My acquaintance's husband has multiple myeloma and is at a major medical center for bone marrow transplant. She has a website that gives updates, which is really cool. But then she will write something like " well, I have to get into my RNWIFE mode and take care of Stan". She is not a nurse, not in the medical field...
I don't plan on saying anything to her unless she crosses a line, such as some of the above examples in other posts "I do the same as an RN, etc". But it does irritate me.
If she were my acquaintance, I would very quietly draw her aside and tell her you have read her website. And you are concerned with her statement concerning her 'RNWIFE' note. I would point out to her, since I don't know the state you live in, that there are numerous states that can charge an individual with a crime for referring to herself/himself as a R.N. And you certainly wouldn't want that to happen to her, she has enough to deal with now. In all likelihood she is not aware of her 'mistake'.
Okay, any ideas on this? My acquaintance's husband has multiple myeloma and is at a major medical center for bone marrow transplant. She has a website that gives updates, which is really cool. But then she will write something like " well, I have to get into my RNWIFE mode and take care of Stan". She is not a nurse, not in the medical field...
I don't plan on saying anything to her unless she crosses a line, such as some of the above examples in other posts "I do the same as an RN, etc". But it does irritate me.
But she qualifies it as RNWIFE. One, it should never irritate you. Two you should never address the issue with her. As far as he is concerned she is his RNWIFE. He relies on her, trusts her, you should never do anything to alter that in any waay shape or form. I checked with my wife on this one. Interfering would only cause increased stress for them and they have plenty of that already.
Maybe I am too accepting. But in the different cases listed before. CNAs and Phlebotomists, vet assistants whatever. If they want to say they are a nurse. It doesnt bother me in the least. I dont feel threatened, or insulted, or put upon in anyway. Just me. with a different outlook sometimes
with ya here- i have read these posts with much intrigue each time it comes up and it amazes me how many people allow it to boil thier blood. in my experience ( perhaps cause it is a small town ideal ) it is not the "nurse" ( or lack of being ) that call themselves a nurse, its the patients - especially the older ones who really dont know the difference. i have yet to meet anyone who goes in and "corrects" the patient as some have here - however i also do not know anyone who says they are the nurse- they simply say sorry i cant help you with that but i will get someone who can.
i just dont see ( even though i do hear what others say here ) why it upsets so many folks. i worked hard for my degree and so do those i work with no matter what their position. dont feel i need to get upset about what i see as primarily ( in my area i stress again, as it i am sure is not the same everywhere as seen by the various experiences posted ) a patient error in wording when as long as the work gets done and the right person gets the info needed , and the patient gets taken care of appropriately in a timely manner - its all good.
on another point i have read- many hospitals do color code thier staff- that doesnt seem to make a difference- maybe we need to go back to white uniforms and those stiff ole caps ya cant keep on your head ( at least i couldnt my hair is to finly straight lol)
or we could go with the suggestion someone had - all wear lab coats with our "label" on the back - like RN , LPN, DR LOLOLOLOL
. please......please.....
cherokeesummer
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With all due respect, I was just hoping to help clarify. It seems you and Woody have quite the debate. I just want to learn more about people using the title nurse...not interested in political debates here on a nursing board.
But its entertaining...:)