Is there a point when vaccine/mask mandates can go to far? Can mandates never go too far?
On 9/6/2021 at 1:28 PM, Jeckrn1 said:When someone has a closed mind and says someone is a joke because they use their critical thinking skills.
if mask mandates really work why does Florida only have a rate 3 more people per 100 have Covid then California. Florida is an open state which does not restrict any thing or require mask where California has a struck mask mandate and shut down the state.
I am an OR nurse and since when is your mask on for your whole shift and has no gaps so that argument does not hold water either.
sorry you have no “ammo” with your closed mind.
Can you show any studies that show anything but a properly worn N95 mask stop a airborne virus?
This chart from one of the manufacturers seems to back up her statement above. Only the N95 Mask is considered respiratory protection.
3 hours ago, nursetim said:When they mandate some mark to indicate “vaccine” status. When movement is restricted due to “vaccine” status. When medical treatment is withheld due to “vaccine” status, even for non-kung flu issues. When people are segregated based on “vaccine” status. When people are euthanized based on “vaccine” status. Think I’m being hyperbolic? Remember when a “vaccine” mandate was considered hyperbolic conspiracy theory, I do.
Kung flu, eh? I guess that is a big clue to the foundation of your vaccine resistance.
Yeah, there's no doubt that you are being ridiculous and hyperbolic about the mandates.
32 minutes ago, Jeckrn1 said:What I have been saying all along.
From your chart: the surgical mask provides a barrier to large droplets. Protects others from wearer's respiratory emissions.
I wear a cloth or a surgical mask at work in the office to protect my coworkers and members of the public. When I interact with my active TB patients I wear a fit-tested N95 mask. When I do COVID testing, I wear a CAPR.
Likewise, when out in public, indoor spaces, I wear a cloth or surgical mask.
nursetim, NP
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We, healthcare professionals, can’t even do infection control IN A HOSPITAL adequately enough to stop nosocomial infections. How in the name of Zeus’s butthole, can anyone reasonably expect, non-medical John/Jane Q Public to do it right?
I wore a mask in the OR for two years, there were times, rarely, that we got back to back AAA’s, everyone got a break. Our AAAs lasted 8 hrs average.
I don’t know if anyone has addressed this or not, but what about the lack of challenge to our immune system? BC (Before Covid), when your wait person spoke holding your food, they inoculated your food with whatever critter were a part of their normal flora and fauna. Not to mention the kitchen, where yelling is the norm, and multiple people are inoculating everyone’s food. We didn’t think twice about it. Now the mass media has effectively turned us into Mr. Monks, (if you aren’t familiar with the reference, it’s a great show.)
Our immune system is a use it or lose it system, like endogenous steroid.