Hello,everyone. I was told by a classmate that she head that there is a website that was started by a nursing instructor. I guess the website is looking for those nursing students who completed their nursing program and were never told from the beginning about the HESI exam.
Rumors has it that this website has these students setting up a protest date, time, and place.
I really would like for anyone to let me know if they know the website or where and when they will be rallying. I would like to join in the protest.
Its about time that schools stop abusing these students because of HESI. Its about helping the students. HESI is only a probability exam.
I have a question. What is the HESI? I heard so many nursing students talk about how their school made it mandatory for them to take it. Our school offered ATI & mandatory to do Kaplan. Personally I thought ATI was a waste...Too much studying & busy work! (4 years of nursing school crammed into your layed out study plan) Kaplan wasnt bad, but I just took the NCLEX for the 1st time, friday, and I just found out I failed *(
So I have to find something else to do....I just wasnt for sure what the HESI was...?
Sorry to hear that. I recently passed the NCLEX. I have to say what helped me most was what I was taught in nursing school. I really can't say Kaplin helped me a great deal. The best thing about Kaplin is the question trainer can tell you what areas you need to work on. Many people on here say Saunder's is really good. It was too late for me to try it, so I would't know. Try again, I'm sure you'll pass next time.
I have a question. What is the HESI? I heard so many nursing students talk about how their school made it mandatory for them to take it. Our school offered ATI & mandatory to do Kaplan. Personally I thought ATI was a waste...Too much studying & busy work! (4 years of nursing school crammed into your layed out study plan) Kaplan wasnt bad, but I just took the NCLEX for the 1st time, friday, and I just found out I failed *(
So I have to find something else to do....I just wasnt for sure what the HESI was...?
Did your school do any exit-type exam? Because one good thing about Hesi or the like test is that it forces you to study, study, study. The amount of gaps in our program was unbelievable and many students think that they will be walked through it. You quickly realize it's a solo journey - quiet, tedious studying that no one else can do for you to pass that Hesi.
I hear of people who dismiss studying and I envy that when they easily pass these tests, Hesi or NCLEX, but I don't think that's normal. The average person taking the nclex takes 119 questions to pass per meds pub. I would like to be average!
ATI sounds like HESI.. they are ADDITIONAL EDUCATIONAL TOOLS.. that is it.. tools. they can not MEASURE all I know, nor can they TEACH me all I need to know.. if such was the case, I would have just bought them and not gone to school.
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Actually, the ATI is comprable to the HESI except i think it's harder than the Hesi. i took free practice ones but i never studied for them since they didn't count towards my grade.
it's crazy they make you buy those books. that must stink.
ATI sounds like HESI.. they are ADDITIONAL EDUCATIONAL TOOLS.. that is it.. tools. they can not MEASURE all I know, nor can they TEACH me all I need to know.. if such was the case, I would have just bought them and not gone to school.
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Actually, the ATI is comprable to the HESI except i think it's harder than the Hesi. i took free practice ones but i never studied for them since they didn't count towards my grade.
it's crazy they make you buy those books. that must stink.
The hesi questions on the cd are not always like the hesi questions on the test. The ones on the cd are easier. The only exception is if they throw you a few freebies from the cd. I think there are different levels too. And just some plain old DUMB questions.
I can actually now say that Hesi and Nclex are nothing alike. First of all, Hesi does not adapt to their questions like Nclex. For instance, I had a renal question and I know I answered it wrong. It gave another renal question. With Hesi if it were to ask me a renal question the next one would me a muscle question. Even the way the questions are asked differs. Hard to explain unless you took both.
My two classmates did not pass Nclex. But they are very optimistic they will pass the second time. So much for Hesi being a good indicator. I think they took the Hesi result for granted and didn't study.
I can actually say the nursing program I attended was a waste of money and time. The instructors were awful and did not want to teach. They don't care because Hesi is covering their butts. As for my classmates who were not successful, I am still there for them. If anyone in this site who know how to help them. Please PM me. I appreciate any advice. These women are mostly single with children. I can vouch for them when I say that they would make excellent nurses and have intergrity. Unlike, the school I attended.
I hope there is someone or groups that can help my classmates and other students who actually completed the nursing program only to be told they are not qualified to sit for boards. Why? Because of some diagnostic exam that were never told to the students in a timely manner.
Students who are not successful with this diagnostic exam are thrown out of the program. Nursing courses are not transferrable. Long waiting list at other nursing schools. More money to spend for the program. All because the school wants more funding for their program. In order to get more funding by the state the school must have a 90% plus first time test taker pass rate. But yet, you can take NCLEX as many times as you want up to three years. Even though the state does not require for you to take Hesi before sitting for boards.
Does this sound fair in any way? Is it okay for students who have sacrificed so much to be thrown away because the school requires 90% probability that you will pass NCLEX the first time. Afterall, these students completed the program. If they were incompetent in any way, why did they matriculate onto the next course? How did they complete the program to begin with? It is because they were deemed competent. But the school wants 90% probability that you will pass Nclex the first time. The second time does not count. The state does not look at the second time test takers. The state does not look at the attrition rates of the program either.
Its money, politics, and gamble with your life.
Its who you know. So if anyone out there know anyone who can help. Let me know.
There are fights that you can walk away from. There are others you should not.
Why? Because of some diagnostic exam that were never told to the students in a timely manner.
Your students were told 2 months prior to the exam and were given a 3 day review. I think that's more than enough time. Most students do not get the review class.
We were told about HESI on day one, but we couldn't study until we were done with the program anyway. Anyhow, what would you study? Nursing school would be your preparation.
Does this sound fair in any way? Is it okay for students who have sacrificed so much to be thrown away because the school requires 90% probability that you will pass NCLEX the first time. Afterall, these students completed the program. If they were incompetent in any way, why did they matriculate onto the next course? How did they complete the program to begin with?
They completed the program because it was sub-par as evindenced by the poor pass rate and the inability to pass a standardized exam.
There are fights that you can walk away from. There are others you should not.
Its time to do the right thing.
I'm sorry, but I don't see anything wrong with schools having standardized tests as a requirement.
If students don't like the HESI, then they should investigate that before choosing a school and look elsewhere.
I had never heard of HESI until I began reading these forums. I was sorry to see that it was a requirement of graduation, that one could not receive the earned degree unless that test was passed. My own opinion is that the degree received is the culimation of ALL that is learned and passed, and should not be essentially the product of a single exam.
That said, one could also argue that EVERY final exam in every course is, in itself, an exit exam. My coursework was structured such that if I failed any one final exam, I could not move on to the next course. There were two exceptions to that, and they were the final two courses, ironically. In those cases, many of us who tended to get high grades found that we could fail miserably our final exam and still receive a passing grade in the course (of course, not one of us strove for a 17% on our final, did we?!?).
At any rate, after reading all that is here, I do dislike the idea of the HESI. But, there is always "the other hand", and in this case, it's that if you don't want to gamble on the HESI results, you could choose another school. It doesn't make much sense to me that a school could hide the graduation requirement from students or prospective students, does it? I imagine that if I were told about this requirement up front, I could choose to go to that school or another school that had no such requirement.
And if I somehow did not know about the HESI requirement until it was 'too late' in my schooling, well....I'd make sure I passed it. Just like I made sure I passed the NCLEX. Without having passed the NCLEX, I'd have "nothing to show" for my education as well, correct?
I don't see what the problem is. If people can't pass the HESI I wouldn't want to see them as a nurse anyways. We were told about it but did no specific studying for it.
Luckily, after our second semester we were given the HESI to determine how well we were doing in order to pass the HESI at the end of fourth semester.
My school uses ATI. At first it was a three strikes your out policy (that's what was in the handbook). I knew this going in but felt comfortable because of all the remediation help they give you if you don't pass. Then they suddenly changed it to one shot you're done. We all freaked :eek:and a bit later they changed it back to three strikes. Now they've decided to do a ok you'll get your diploma no matter what but you have to agree to a remediation plan.
Honestly, I have no idea how much ATI will help me for NCLEX. I'm taking it in september. I'm using as many resources as I can to study for it, doing a bazillion questions. I look at ATI as just another tool to kick me in the butt to study harder. I have the opportunity to go into a specialty I really want but only if I pass the test the first time.
It is kinda ironic that the original poster's school only allowed 3 people to graduate and 2 failed the test. A 34% pass rate......bet that school isn't hopping to put that stat on their website! :chuckle
Hello everyone. I took hesi exit exam today and didn't make the required 880 to pass. Anyone have any ideas how to better prepare for the hesi test. I have about a month to prepare. I want definitely want to pass the second time around.
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Sorry to hear that. I recently passed the NCLEX. I have to say what helped me most was what I was taught in nursing school. I really can't say Kaplin helped me a great deal. The best thing about Kaplin is the question trainer can tell you what areas you need to work on. Many people on here say Saunder's is really good. It was too late for me to try it, so I would't know. Try again, I'm sure you'll pass next time.