Hello,everyone. I was told by a classmate that she head that there is a website that was started by a nursing instructor. I guess the website is looking for those nursing students who completed their nursing program and were never told from the beginning about the HESI exam.
Rumors has it that this website has these students setting up a protest date, time, and place.
I really would like for anyone to let me know if they know the website or where and when they will be rallying. I would like to join in the protest.
Its about time that schools stop abusing these students because of HESI. Its about helping the students. HESI is only a probability exam.
I knew nothing of the HESI until the end of the last semester. Not that it makes a difference but it is something SOMEONE should have told us. Their reply to this was that we should have read it in the packet to which it wasnt clearly stated anyway and was very vague. Definitely it would help to know so that you can better prepare. It is wrong for them not to tell us.
The HESI is a cumulative test. So you couldn't start preparing until the end of the last semester anyway!
Sheesh...
I was top in my class just want to put that out there. How I would prepare would be to go over everything, do nclex review questions regularly. Some people focus on the task at hand to get through school. Not everyone is reviewing what was done from day 1. The final review is the final review but doesnt mean we're reviewing constantly. Also alot of professors gave us a review so that we wouldnt need to go over everything. The Hesi requires you to go over everything. That is what I mean by I would prepare because had I known I would have been preparing for the Hesi by doing above. I could have and I would have. It wasnt cool to just drop the bomb on us so to speak when we're expecting we're done w/classes. That is exactly what my school did. But thanks for asking hope it helps.
I was top in my class just want to put that out there. How I would prepare would be to go over everything, do nclex review questions regularly. Some people focus on the task at hand to get through school. Not everyone is reviewing what was done from day 1. The final review is the final review but doesnt mean we're reviewing constantly. Also alot of professors gave us a review so that we wouldnt need to go over everything. The Hesi requires you to go over everything. That is what I mean by I would prepare because had I known I would have been preparing for the Hesi. But thanks for asking hope it helps.
Shouldn't you be doing that for the NCLEX?
My whole point is, that you don't need any extra time for HESI. You prepare the same way. Either you are a prepared person or you're not. And for those who fail the HESI, they would have failed it, even if they knew about it on day one.
If you did know about it day one, you still could not fully prepare until the end.
My whole point is, that you don't need any extra time for HESI. You prepare the same way. Either you are a prepared person or you're not. And for those who fail the HESI, they would have failed it, even if they knew about it on day one.
If you did know about it day one, you still could not fully prepare until the end.
It doesnt matter if I should have been preparing for NCLEX or not. The NCLEX has nothing to do with me completing their nursing program. The program should have made Hesi known. Not that extra time is needed, it's just the point that you think youre done and your not. That is not cool. Some schools think they are doing us a favor, we are in fact, paying for our nursing education. I think it fair to, at a minimum, inform us of all that is expected. I dont think that is asking for alot nor is it an unreasonable request.
I think it fair to, at a minimum, inform us of all that is expected. I dont think that is asking for alot nor is it an unreasonable request. You did pose the question as to how I would prepare.
We nursing students have put all we have into nursing school and then some. To have a test that is not the Boards to tell us we can't graduate after all we have worked hard for is really disappointing is all. Put yourself into another person shoes who is going through this and then reply.
The reason no one should complain about HESI is that there should be standards to meet. Yes, NCLEX is one standard, but there really should be more (ie entrance/progress/exit exams). I'm for promoting the nursing profession. I want the smartest and brightest nurses to be my colleagues. I believe every school should have some sort of diagnostic test in order to graduate/enter. It's the same reasoning why I am 100% against community colleges offering waitlisting rather than grades to enter nursing school (or even if its based on grades, generally the bar is set quite low). If you are a good student, you should be able to pass. End of story.
HESI is a cumalative test, you say? But if the teachers didn't teach you nor what is in any of your text books. How than can it be a cumulative test? Did you not say cumulative is based on what you learned in the program? That is why HESI is best used throughout the program and at exit. That is why its called a readiness exam, remediate, assess areas of weakness. No one can possible know or study for everything. Familiarity base is the key here. Would you want some diagnostic tests done on you before the doctor decided to give you a triple bypass? The point is... preparation and it takes both the students and faculty as a team.
Most schools are not holding themselves accountable for their curriculum's deficiencies. Instead, they abandon they already successful students who have sacrified so much and are left with nothing. The schools are not willing to help.
Maybe some of you had a real wonderful experience in nursing school. I am happy for you. You had wonderful teachers that wanted to see you succeed, and you have.
Unfortunately, there are some teachers who cannot teach nor do they care. Therefore, students are on their own, become self efficient and hunger for more knowledge. That's how it was for us. I don't remember any one constructive words from our theory instructor. I chalked it up. I can actually say, "nursing school was hell." We were minmized as a human beings for two years. Truly. They made up their own grade scale as they wish, not what was on the handbook. They loved every minute of the intimidation they place upon us. Everytime we reported them, it got worst. No one would touch these teachers because they were tenures and they knew it.
I will never go back to a classroom setting, afterthat. I am looking to get my bachelors on line. I don't trust any of them.
So please, guys, chill out with the negative comments. You really think that when a student completes a nursing program that they are incompetent to take the NCLEX? If so, their must be alot of incompetent nurses out there who never took HESI. Hunderds and thousands I'd say.
Has everyone forgotten what nursing school was like? What about the doctors, this does not exist for them?
Know the difference between the two exam, first.
HESI is a readiness exam, even HESI company states that faculty must be held accountable. Why couldn't faculty figure out how to incorporate hesi topics into the curriculum? Lazy, I'd say.
NCLEX is based on safety and standards, according to NCBSN.
Not only that, HESI scoring is not adaptive, and it only has 160 questions. It gives you more points for the hard questions. Which are the ones our teachers never knew about. LOL.
NCLEX is adaptive, adapts to your level of knowledge and ability. I took HESI and NCLEX. They are not the same.
For the record, my theory teachers didn't teach me crap. They were hardly there, anyway. They were always busy eating and partying in the skills room. My clinical instructors were the bomb. I think we need more clinical hours than theory hours.
Just chill with the rude responses. We are all in the same profession. They are venting and being truthful here and you guys are ready to throw them under the bus. Remember, what you learned in nursing school? Listen, don't be judgemental, etc. Have some RESPECT for what they are going through. Just because you didn't go through anything like it, does not make you any better or smarter.
Sorry, but if you can't pass the HESI, then chances are that your school was deficient in teaching you the skills that you need to pass-and therefore become a nurse.
I agree with a quarter of your comment. Looking back, that is the reason why our nursing program used HESI, for punitive reasons. Instead of taking accountability for their deficiencies, we literally took the butt of it. That is malicious and deceptive. What are you trying to say? That other nursing programs who did not utilize HESI and the students who passed their NCLEX is substandard? Do you consider those nurses incompetent?
I am just trying to understand your mindset. No offense.
If you feel this topic is "so old" than may I suggest that you don't bait?" I see you are a premium member here, therefore I know that you are aware that this site is based on being supportive and finding knowledge within. I am sure you are an excellent nurse. We have our license. Let's try and be helpful, and be supportive. Why can't help these students get theirs?
Remember what mom's say, "If you can't say nothing nice, don't say nothing at all." Again, no offense.
You have the knowledge and years of experience. These students at times need to vent, or maybe even whine, if thats what you call it. Nursing school is stressful/emotional enough. Let's stay humble. Part of being a nurse is "Teaching." So, lets do that.
I am trying to turn my traumatized years of nursing school to positive ones. Like, meeting my classmates, and clinical instructors. That is what I will focus on. POSITIVE, so that all those unbearable years in nursing school will be soon gone.
PEACE
Changing the topic....
I just found out that myclassmates who passed HESI, failed her NCLEX for the second time. I don't know why she decided to take it over so soon.
Anyway, so far, out of us three who made it. I passed NCLEX the first time, one passed it after the second time. The other has not passed it yet.
The one who has not passed it yet, had the highest score of us three.
Go figure, HESI.
Anyway, for $9000.00 plus more dollars, a few of my classmates decided they will repeat second year and their grades will be audited. Once, they pass/complete the courses, they can take HESI one more time.
A few did seek an attorney, which I am financially contributing to. I can't tell them what to do. But, I can be supportive of what they are going through.
I am hoping that someone here, is familiar with knowing how to access the instructors website on facebook? Any information is greatly appreciated.
Butterflybee
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I knew nothing of the HESI until the end of the last semester. Not that it makes a difference but it is something SOMEONE should have told us. Their reply to this was that we should have read it in the packet to which it wasnt clearly stated anyway and was very vague. Definitely it would help to know so that you can better prepare. It is wrong for them not to tell us.