Am I a coward for going on FMLA due to COVID?

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Hello everyone. I am extremely conflicted in this decision. I work in an ICU which is now basically a COVID unit, on top of the PCU (the designated COVID unit) which we get pulled to regularly. It's no surprise there is an incomprehensible shortage of PPE, and shockingly bad backpedaling and safety recommendations from the CDC that had they made even 4 months ago would have cause a national uproar.

I have asthma and chronic bronchitis. Any little chest cold turns into full blown bronchitis for me. My girlfriend (we don't live together) has respiratory issues that require monthly injections of an immunosuppressant to manage. We haven't seen each other for almost a month now. Last week at this time, we had 1-2 two COVID patients.. at this point, all critical care units are overflowing and the safety precautions are terrible as they are everywhere else. The testing is awful with 4-6 day turnaround time. We get one N95 per shift no matter how many patients. They've increased nurse to patient ratio, which makes the one N95 even more unsafe. We can only wear it if the patient is undergoing aerosol producing procedures/treatments, otherwise, a standard surgical mask. I failed the fit test anyway. RN's are told to come in if exposed but asymptomatic, and if we are exposed to a positive patient, we only get tested if symptomatic. We have PAPRs but can only be used with positive patients due to lack of filter supply, but we won't know if they are positive until almost a week. To this day, I don't think they've been used yet. So by the time we CAN use them, it's pointless.. we've already been exposed. We are seeing younger patients with only a history of asthma or no real history crashing and burning.. going into ARDS and being intubated and placed in rotoprone beds. That's what scares me the most. Otherwise young healthy patients on the brink of death.

I really like my unit. I respect my manager, and my team, but I just don't feel safe and the anxiety is crushing. The healthcare system in general failed us. I feel it's not a matter of if but WHEN I will get this, and given my respiratory issues, will it take me out, or just hit me hard enough to cause permanent lung damage. That said, I was going to put my two weeks in but girlfriend suggested FMLA to buy some time to think about it.

I feel like I'm deserting my team when needed most. But I also didn't sign up to risk my life due to a comedy of errors, oversight, indifference, and/or just the never ending need for more profit by the powers that be. I feel what I'm doing is the logical, right, and safe move but can't get over this feeling of cowardliness and letting everyone down for doing it. However other times I feel I am being strong for giving up a well paying job with benefits for my physical/mental health and not allowing them to do me this way. Just looking for opinions one way or the other. Thank you and stay safe out there.

Specializes in ICU.

Not at all. I also attempted to file for fmla because I'm pregnant and asthmatic and work in an ICU and got a lot of pushback from my job about caring for covid patients. Maybe see if they can switch your assignment.

Specializes in Psychiatric Nurse.

I do not know where you are located, but many of the nurses in our local hospitals that may have health issues have relocated to "safer" areas such as L&D. Would this be an option for you? Whatever decision you make, make it for YOU. Like someone said prior to my posting, we are all just bodies. That is the sad truth. Be safe!

Ill offer a dissenting opinion, but its not really directed at the OP, who has risk factors that I dont share - I'm in no position to judge such a hard decision about someone else's life.

Here goes

You don't owe this to your employer or the administrators at your hospital.

You don't even owe this to those of your coworkers who are sticking in there.

You did not sign up for this. Disaster nursing, sure maybe. Pandemic without PPE? Not so much. Many levels of society, political leadership, and healthcare administration have failed leading up to this.

Forget about owing anyone anything.

But... Here's the thing. I'm following projections of this virus and I'm watching the ICU I work in slowly get overrun, even in an area thats not yet considered a hot spot. And I'm pretty sure there will come a time (and soon) when every patient I treat, more or less, will be one more patient that wouldn't get treated if I wasnt there.

It's not about what I signed up for. Instead, I have a skill set that is desperately needed right now. Eventually, every day I'm working at risk to myself and my family is also a chance to save lives in a system that will save that many fewer without me. And each of us has to decide how much risk to ourselves is too much to bear for that opportunity, not worth the lives of our neighbors.

The risk to yourself is real and substantial. I can't make that decision for anyone else.

But please don't make it casually or bitterly or to spite those who have failed us. This virus has proven many of our bean counters and administrators wrong - youre not just a cog in a system, replaceable by a fresh new recruit in the same color scrubs for a small cost and a little orientation. But of course, the problem with being irreplaceable is that you won't be replaced.

Best wishes to everyone making hard decisions, and not taking them lightly.

On 3/30/2020 at 12:37 PM, barcode120x said:

You do have every right to go on FMLA at this point in time. I wouldn't call you a coward, but I would say you should think about during your part as a nurse in the crisis. With the craziness of the spread, there's a decent chance you'll get covid even if you don't work. We all signed up knowing the risks. Most of us have never had to go through a world medical crisis (like myself) until covid so this is all new to us. Do what you think is best for you.

Once the nursing force stops going to work because they chose to step away...who knows what will happen.

Nope. What you won't do is try to shame someone for trying to prevent themselves harm. We didn't sign up to be harmed and put our lives on the line. We're nurses not military soldiers. Shame on you for trying to diminish OP's feelings and risks. The"I understand BUT..... you should think about during (doing) your part as a nurse in the crisis" is dismissive and subliminally hateful. Don't do that. None of us are obligated to risk death because we're nurses, especially if doing so could potentially cost your life.

And if everyone put themselves in the position to die there won't be a nursing force to go to work. Stop being hateful and passive aggressive.

NurseBlaq,

Thank you for your words.

Specializes in Non judgmental advisor.
17 minutes ago, NurseBlaq said:

Nope. What you won't do is try to shame someone for trying to prevent themselves harm. We didn't sign up to be harmed and put our lives on the line. We're nurses not military soldiers. Shame on you for trying to diminish OP's feelings and risks. The"I understand BUT..... you should think about during (doing) your part as a nurse in the crisis" is dismissive and subliminally hateful. Don't do that. None of us are obligated to risk death because we're nurses, especially if doing so could potentially cost your life.

And if everyone put themselves in the position to die there won't be a nursing force to go to work. Stop being hateful and passive aggressive.

Beautiful

First of all, I don't think that you are a coward at all. Second of all, even if you didn't have those medical conditions and wanted to leave, no one is allowed to judge you. I don't know what's going on with public perception, but nurses did NOT sign up to risk their lives or sacrifice their lives for others. I don't get those martyr types, but that's their choice. Do whatever you feel is best for you, and leave the guilt out of it. It doesn't matter what your coworkers or managers think. Your life and your health is what matters. If you don't advocate for yourself, do you think anyone else will?

Specializes in Nero Trauma Critical Care, Med/Card ICU.

Your unit sounds a lot like mine! I totally get where you’re coming from— we have a couple of nurses on our unit that are in similar situations health wise. We’re a pretty good team and look out for each other. So far we’ve been able to keep those nurses out of those rooms or told them they have to use a Papr no matter what. It’s your manager’s responsibility to protect you given your health situation— if they can’t do that, then you have every right to protect yourself by staying out of this. Also, if the anxiety is leading to a mental health issue you can probably get a justified medical leave and some therapy— which we ALL need right now anyway! Good luck and God bless!

On 4/3/2020 at 4:26 AM, ICURN1010 said:

Not at all. I also attempted to file for fmla because I'm pregnant and asthmatic and work in an ICU and got a lot of pushback from my job about caring for covid patients. Maybe see if they can switch your assignment.

You can get a doctor's note. The doctor will not refuse. Send an email through their contact portal listing your risk factors- that way your request is documented.

My doctor called back immediately and insisted that I accept a note excusing me from work altogether because even non-COVID floors are risky (colleagues can have it and be asymptomatic and we don't have a large break room, bathroom, or locker-room to maintain the appropriate social distance)

Specializes in Family Medicine.

YOU ARE NOT A COWARD.

Drop the guilt.

I'd do the same thing.

You are high risk.

Specializes in ICU.

Thank you everyone for the much needed and insightful feedback.

Let me change the point of view.. from the teams perspective.

if you had a co-worker abruptly put two weeks in, A teammate with asthma, chronic bronchitis, and anxiety and he didn't catch anything yet but was leaving the team for fear of getting it (the team is getting crushed daily with these cases and dealing with the same lack of ppe and safety protocols every shift). If he requested FMLA, then requested indefinite reasonable accommodations all reaching dead ends, so he said fine and quit, what would your thought/opinion be of him. As a nurse manager, charge RN, fellow RN, or even lab or resp tech, attending, or specialist. Just curious..

Specializes in Non judgmental advisor.
29 minutes ago, ML1376 said:

Thank you everyone for the much needed and insightful feedback.

Let me change the point of view.. from the teams perspective.

if you had a co-worker abruptly put two weeks in, A teammate with asthma, chronic bronchitis, and anxiety and he didn't catch anything yet but was leaving the team for fear of getting it (the team is getting crushed daily with these cases and dealing with the same lack of ppe and safety protocols every shift). If he requested FMLA, then requested indefinite reasonable accommodations all reaching dead ends, so he said fine and quit, what would your thought/opinion be of him. As a nurse manager, charge RN, fellow RN, or even lab or resp tech, attending, or specialist. Just curious..

Hunny are you worried about what people will think about you because you decided on a path that works for you and your family ? I wish I could find this meme and post it on here I saw it once and it sums up the facts of life, it shows a person walking a camel with a leash, then it shows a crowd of people scoffing at the person walking the camel saying “he doesnt know how to use the camel” then it shows in another frame the person sitting on the camel and then it shows a crowd of people screaming “camel abuse” then the last frame is of the person walking past a camel with his luggage in his hand and a crowd of people saying “WOW! that person doesnt know how to make use of a camel thats sitting right there drinking water and not being put to use “and the moral is people are going to judge you either way no matter what you do, and you will get variable answers on here that reflects this camel story.

what people say think and do behind closed doors and in real life can be contradictory to how they represent themselves in the workplace.

My message in this: I hope in time we can all do things and make decisions that we are proud of and can live with and not for the benefit of approval of others. It's an early path to the grave I think to do the latter

If the above message means nothing then I will answer your question. I would say good for them, they tried to meet halfway with their employer to no avail, they respected their employers decision and they found something that works for them ? then I would go feed my pet camel LOL jk jk

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