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ML1376 has 3 years experience and specializes in ICU.

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  1. Than Quit and give up your license. you obviously don't have the work ethic or the Heart to be an RN. Nurses have been working in Austere environments since time and formal nursing began. What do you think Military Nurses do? Everyday they put their lives on the line. what do you think nurses did in all the other pandemics we've had?

    If your not willing to do that, in your Own country; You don't deserve to be a Registered Nurse; and the Oath is the Nightingale Oath every Nurse takes when pinning. This is the last paragraph. "With Loyalty I will endeavor to aid the physician in his work and Devote myself to the welfare of those committed to my care."

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      ML1376

      You and your overzealous martyrdom aren’t worth commenting on further. You’ve left the world of rational thought. You see things in only black and white when there are countless shades of grey to be considered. Plus, we’re not military nurses, so spare me. As for my license, I’m keeping it in hopes that Karma delivers you as my future patient. Period.  

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    To be a coward, or to be a fool?

    And you shouldn’t be posting with that bs. Whoever is to blame, RN’s should not have to put their lives on the line, every 12 hour shift, every week for an indeterminate amount time. Included in the oath you’re should speaking about, should RN’s risk the lives of their families snd loved ones? When graduating nursing school, I don’t remember swearing to be be willing to risk my life if my employer in, no matter who's to blame, is unable to provide adequate protection, or even mentioning anything about risking my life period. What nursing school did you go to where you swore to that? Either way, hope you’re kickin *** out there, Captain Covid. Focus more on healing corona patients and leave people alone who are having an incredibly tough time struggling to navigate this bungled pandemic.
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    Am I a coward for going on FMLA due to COVID?

    Yeah. Was just getting an update from 2 on the ICU status today. It’s pretty bleak. But I understand. Looking at different opportunities I can find.
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    Am I a coward for going on FMLA due to COVID?

    Thank you everyone for the much needed and insightful feedback. Let me change the point of view.. from the teams perspective. if you had a co-worker abruptly put two weeks in, A teammate with asthma, chronic bronchitis, and anxiety and he didn't catch anything yet but was leaving the team for fear of getting it (the team is getting crushed daily with these cases and dealing with the same lack of ppe and safety protocols every shift). If he requested FMLA, then requested indefinite reasonable accommodations all reaching dead ends, so he said fine and quit, what would your thought/opinion be of him. As a nurse manager, charge RN, fellow RN, or even lab or resp tech, attending, or specialist. Just curious..
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    Another Quitter

    Beautifully said..
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    This is really taking a toll on me...#Vent

    Losing "friends" because of it? I question that title, no offense. Nursing friends/co-workers or ones who have no idea what it's like and are judging simply for the sake of it? Either way, If they won't or or for whatever reason cannot understand how out of control and dire this situation is and further, judge you on how you feel and think about it regarding wanting to protect your health, and the life of your immunocompromised mother, I question them as friends at all. We all have "friends" like that at some point. Not telling you what to do, but it's worth questioning.. You are a human being and BY FAR not alone in thinking and feeling these things. Just look at the topics here and the hundreds of thousands of people viewing them, replying, creating new ones. It's so bad out there and dangerous and it all came about so quickly and intensely. You do what's best for you and your family, period and forget what those "friends" have to say on the matter.
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    Another Quitter

    I can definitely relate.. not so much on the kids factor, but the overall dilemma, as I believe all of us on here can. And to see how it is currently being bungled and completely mismanaged from the local level all the way up to the White House and has been from the beginning is nauseating. And it will continue to be... At the end of the day (and this is a decision I made for myself), you do what you have to do. The dilemma is... continue how you are and risk yours and possibly husbands and kids health, or step away until things are managed properly in terms of safety protocols, necessary protection and equipment, etc. I made my choice a week ago and everyday have been going back and forth if it was wrong or right.. what I will think about it when it's over, etc. I'm in ICU as well, and as you probably are too, I'm seeing younger healthy people with little to no co-morbidities being taken out quick and intensely, after presenting initially with mild symptoms and sent home to self quarantine. Sure, as critical care RN's, we see the worst of the worst, but there is no magic 8 ball, with who gets it and how hard. With CDC safety "recommendations" what they are, and indefinite limited PPE, we're getting exposed way more and with greater viral loads then anyone else. Between the two decisions you can make... stay or go, pros and cons points can be debated on and on. But beyond all the debate, external, and certainly internal, what is the TOP priority? I think you know.. Your kids need a mother and your husband needs a wife. Your parents need their daughter.. And you need them all just as much. So as long as these roles are being fulfilled, everything will work out.. maybe not exactly as planned, but what ever does?
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    The Real War Against COVID-19 in America

    So how to get organized to effect real and lasting change? Where to begin? I agree 1000% with your post, but the idea of making it a reality seems overwhelming and sadly unrealistic being how firmly rooted and how tied to everything else the system is. Thoughts?
  9. Hello there. I apologize if you are not the person to contact about this, but do you know why a reply I made in my thread is showing as hidden? There are points in there I'd like to have included in the discussion. Thank you. - Michael 

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      ML1376

      I'd direct message you but it shows I have 0 messages a day to send. 

    2. sirI

      sirI, MSN, APRN, NP

      Hello and welcome  @ML1376

      Posts with links and/or quoted posts containing links must be approved to ensure they are not spam. This is necessary to prevent Spammers from misusing the site.

      Thank you for your understanding.

    3. sirI

      sirI, MSN, APRN, NP

      Hello again ... as for the messages, once members have at least 15 quality public posts, they are then allowed to use the personal message (pm) system. This, too, is in an attempt to stop SPAMMERS from harassing our members privately.

      You have 14 posts so you only need one more. 🙂

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    New grad RN - feeling alone and lost at sea

    Hello there.. I just wanted to reach out to you. I have to say, my heart breaks after reading that. Regarding work, are you in a high risk group and if so, can you do FMLA? Do you have any money saved if you want to step away? Maybe if you don't already, you could move in with your parents or a friend/relative to cut costs? I'm suggesting these, because I feel you need to get out of there. What you're going through in your personal life is very much tough enough. Being divorced myself, I can relate. Mine was unexpected and it hit hard. That said, the last thing you need on top of everything is the non-stop stress and fear of everything going on now. I can't imagine going through what I did personally and having the covid situation weighing it all done. It has to be crushing. I'm working on a leave of absence now. Thankfully I have a little money saved and supportive family if need be. I really hope you are in a similar situation. I obviously don't know you, but given what I've read, I'd strongly suggest considering stepping away from work until things settle down. This is by no means normal in terms of nursing.. in terms of anything, and being a new grad, I can't even imagine how it's hitting you. And if you ever feel the need to do something drastic, PLEASE get help/reach out first. You're in a burning house now with everything you're going through. First things first, find a way to get out of the house (work), so you can deal with the personal issues and not worry about your health and safety. A red flag doesn't get much bigger than having management request staff fill out advanced directives.. you have to leave there.. Hello there.. I just wanted to reach out to you. I have to say, my heart breaks after reading that. Regarding work, are you in a high risk group and if so, can you do FMLA? Do you have any money saved if you want to step away? Maybe if you don't already, you could move in with your parents or a friend/relative to cut costs? I'm suggesting these, because I feel you need to get out of there. What you're going through in your personal life is very much tough enough. Being divorced myself, I can relate. Mine was unexpected and it hit hard. That said, the last thing you need on top of everything is the non-stop stress and fear of everything going on now. I can't imagine going through what I did personally and having the covid situation weighing it all done. It has to be crushing. I'm working on a leave of absence now. Thankfully I have a little money saved and supportive family if need be. I really hope you are in a similar situation. I obviously don't know you, but given what I've read, I'd strongly suggest considering stepping away from work until things settle down. This is by no means normal in terms of nursing.. in terms of anything, and being a new grad, I can't even imagine how it's hitting you. And if you ever feel the need to do something drastic, PLEASE get help/reach out first. You're in a burning house now with everything you're going through. First things first, find a way to get out of the house (work), so you can deal with the personal issues and not worry about your health and safety. A red flag doesn't get much bigger than having management request staff fill out advanced directives.. you have to leave there..
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    Am I a coward for going on FMLA due to COVID?

    Thank you for pointing that out. Something I meant to include in my last reply but got caught up with everything else haha. But it's sad and true nonetheless. And when that happens, nurses from far and wide won't be able to leave work to attend the funeral, nor will there be police escorts, a 12-gun salute, folding flags, or people saluting the heroism of the RN as they do in the other professions. Not that any of that is needed.. it's just more insult to injury when hearing the "you signed up for this!" response.
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    Am I a coward for going on FMLA due to COVID?

    At first your point hit me. But I then gave your comparison some thought and here’s my take. Sorry.. this is going to be long.. Parkland vs. Covid? Apples to oranges. Parkland was a one-time occurrence in an emergency situation. He had the necessary equipment to handle it. Regarding Covid, let’s take the Parkland scenario, except let’s drag it out over months.. Week 1: one shooter and a fully equipped guard with bullet proof vest, firearm, etc. Week 2: two-three shooters and school administration takes his vest away. Week 4: ten shooters, administration replaces gun with hunting knife and won’t give vest back due to ongoing supply shortages. And let’s talk about ongoing shortages.. The fact we have an unprecedented pandemic couldn’t have been foreseen. HOWEVER, it’s not as if there haven’t been warning signs in years prior that should have had hospitals, municipalities, states, and the government itself better prepared. Between epidemics, natural disasters, etc., there have been PLENTY of events that should have made us realize we need to be better prepared at all times.. not at the time of the disaster itself. Emergency planning 101 folks... Our government decided to go the opposite route having dismantled the Pandemic Task Force in 2018. CDC Timeline 2000s Going along with this, let’s say Parkland school authorities received word that an attack was in the works and would be happening sometime in the next month or two. After receiving the warning, administrators downplay it, even saying "it’s nothing to worry about….” And then it happens.. and it wasn’t just one shooter, but dozens... Who’s fault is it then? The lone guards for being out-manned, outgunned and under-equipped? Or maybe the higher ups who didn’t take it seriously and did nothing both prior to, and after the warning to prepare themselves and protect the students? Why is it some local hospitals here were proactive and had plans in place.. connections made prior with local business to retrofit their businesses to make healthcare supplies and have deep staffing so they truly can protect all of their workers and send those home if need be or not ask them to come back if still exhibiting symptoms. When business and/or government operate on a razors edge at all times, it doesn’t take much for the whole system to crash.. truly a house of cards. And let’s talk about nurses… Lately we’ve been getting “thank you for your service..” “we care about you and your safety” from management. Sure doesn’t feel that way. They care and protect us if possible, but if not, have no qualms throwing us in the fire for the “greater good”. They say how much they appreciate us in one breath, and in the next, threaten us with disciplinary action or termination if we speak up on an assignment that unsafe to us and/or the patient regarding potential Covid transmission. If quarantined, we have to use our own PTO. And here’s another kicker showing how “appreciated” we are.. Health care providers are excluded from the Families First Coronavirus Response Act. As stated: “the FFCRA says that the DOL can ‘issue regulations for good cause . . . to exclude certain health care providers and emergency responders.’” Further stating “an employer of an employee who is a health care provider or an emergency responder can elect to exclude such employee from the application of the provisions in the amendments made [in] this Act.” We are being told we “signed up for this” as if we’re military, but we don’t get any of their benefits.. We don’t get to retire in our fifties with a full pension, we don’t get lifetime benefits after retirement, we don’t get a GI bill.. hell, we don’t even get military discounts or special healthcare worker rates. We also don’t get hazard pay the way the police here are (time and a half).. or even dialysis nurses (Double time, who by the way are told if the hospital they are visiting doesn’t have proper PPE, they don’t have to accept the assignment). Do I feel bad about my decision? Yes, and you’re post made me feel worse. But when I think about it, it’s because I feel I left my coworkers behind. If my health and safety were protected the way it should be (and is at other facilities), I’d be right there with them. Let me do my job safely and I’m there til the end. Throw me to the wolves and treat me like I’m expendable, not taking my health and those of my loved ones into account? I’m out.. Hopefully the next disaster (there will be others) will be prepared for better, but I doubt it.. because we gotta keep saving/making those dollars today and passing the buck. It’s just how business is done..
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    Am I a coward for going on FMLA due to COVID?

    They denied me FMLA being as high risk does not equal unable to work according to them. I am requesting reasonable accommodations but doubt anything will come of it. I would be phone doing phone triage for the time being. I pretty much figure it's done for me. If I go back, there will be ill-will among management and co-workers alike. And true indeed regarding the doctors advice. Seeing how lethally quick this virus is up close really got to me. I've seen many things in the unit, but nothing like this.. With mine and my girlfriends respiratory conditions coupled with lack of ppe and inadequate safety measures in place, each positive patient contact is like walking by a fire after doused with gasoline. I don't believe in tempting fate...
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    Infected staff

    "Needless to say we are pretty cheesed off at our co-worker who is getting a self-imposed 2 week vacation. But Karma can be a bad thing. We have a handful of other nurses who are making ridiculous demands because of their "special circumstances". We ALL have circumstances. I expect we'll have a "Lord of the Flies" situation if this continues." Easy on the judgement and retribution talk. Yes we ALL have circumstances.. some more legitimate than others. I don't know hers, but it's that kind of "Lord of the Flies" environment that is unnecessary and makes it bad for everyone.. co-workers, management, etc. If you can work in this and are not part of an at risk group, great. Others aren't able to, be it for physical or psychological reasons. This is an unprecedented crisis (that shouldn't be nearly this bad if pre-planning and current handling weren't done in such an asinine manner). We'll get through it and Karma aside, hopefully learn valuable lessons as a result.
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    Am I a coward for going on FMLA due to COVID?

    Thank you for that. It’s hard to keep logic and sound thinking at the forefront with this. And to the other poster, my employer is fighting FMLA
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    Am I a coward for going on FMLA due to COVID?

    Couldn't agree more. It’s the “save some today, (or in the case of business, profit more) and pay 10x more down the road.. hopefully on someone else's watch” method. We’ve lived in a “pass the buck” system far too long. But that’s just how business is done, right? It Never... Works... Out... So irresponsibly and dangerously short sighted. And with that it’s OUR decision to make.. paying bills/health insurance or the health/life/death of ourselves and loved ones. If left to management to choose, they’ll throw us to the wolves every time as they are now. All the rah rah self advocacy, self care, we respect and value you, “dont come in sick as to not infect coworkers and patients” nonsense they preached goes out the window. I understand fully the situation, and I don’t envy where management and administration is with this. This affects everyone, by no means just the frontline. But those not ON the frontline won’t be the ones on a ventilator or worse due to lack of adequate protection equipment and protocols. We all have a choice to make. There is no right or wrong. They’re both right and wrong for different reasons. Just an update, they’re fighting me tooth and nail on it.
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