Adn's Who Don't Care

nursing4me23 · Sep 30, 2006

Thanks for all of you who replied.

i wasn't trying to discourage anyone from getting their bsn at all

i just wanted to see if not having it had stopped them in any way

and i see that it hasn't. i wish all of you the best in whatever route

you decide to take.

:wink2:

ZASHAGALKA, RN · Sep 30, 2006

I believe I read another thread about mandatory BSN to practice as a RN. They stated that RN's currently holding a ASN or Diploma degree would be grandfathered in should this occur. Sorry can't remember where it was in the site.

Oh, I understand this. But - because the ivory tower and the ANA polarized this debate with their insults, there can be NO assurances, despite the claims of being grandfathered.

Simply put, I'm not reassured BECAUSE of the 40 yr old insult.

I will not be relegated to second class status by the ivory elite.

Simply put, it will take a consensus to move to BSN as a standard, not a polarization. As long as the debate is polarized in more fundamental ways, a bland assurance of being 'grandfathered' is not nearly sufficient to create that consensus.

~faith,

Timothy.

Antikigirl, ASN, RN · Sep 30, 2006

I have a ADN, and have never had a probelm with any position I wanted except for a teaching one, but I still get plenty of preceptors...so no probelms there!

I thought that I could get my BSN when I have the money, but my family and I bought a house, so it would be a while if I wanted to. But frankly, I have no probelms where I am, get plenty of work, have a wide range of skills and experience, and well...so far so good!

I really love school, so I would certainly go back...but when I think of going back I think of things I really would like to learn about for myself...like more classes based on creativity, speech, gardening...that kind of thing. I feel I need to work on areas of my life I have missed and enjoy. So those may win out over more school on something I do everyday anyway!

Also, I was granted RN school...so I basically thought it would be a great career move, not really knowing much about it. I did it, passed with flying colors...and well...am working as a Nurse. I just don't seem to need more schooling in this respect except for the CME I do on my own (I like to take CME to keep up to date!). I went into ADN thinking "lets try this out", and now I am at "Wow, I am doing well...lets keep it up" phase. Maybe I will find a desire to continue on as a BSN...I will never say I will never do it...you just never know.

But for now...My ASN is doing just fine for me! :)

ortess1971 · Sep 30, 2006

I have been thinking about the BSN only because I have been fascinated lately with the idea of going to law school and becoming a nurse/attorney who could represent fellow nurses in malparactice cases, problems with facilities etc. If you haven't guessed already, I love to argue! :rolleyes:

Euskadi1946 · Oct 1, 2006

I graduated with an ADN 13 years ago and had thought at one time to go for a bsn, but nursing school burned me out so much that the thought of doing one more pathophys/term paper or what have you almost made want to heave. I've had 8 years of floor nursing experience and 5 years of being a healthcare coordinator with the State of Utah. Besides, ADN, BSN we all take the same state boards and make the same amount of money unless you work for the Government where the bsn does count.... :nurse:

buddiage · Oct 1, 2006

As stated, I would get a BSN only if I planned on getting an MSN.

I must constantly evolve or I get bored, and maybe that'll change as I'm older. I will either go back to school for a BSN- MSN, or I'll be taking art, languages, or something horse related outside of college. I want to explore everything, if hubby can stomach it.

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Oct 1, 2006

As stated, I would get a BSN only if I planned on getting an MSN.

Same here.

Only reason why i'm wanting to go on for my masters eventually is to be able to teach someday. I have zero desire to be a DON or ADON ever, since i like the fact that when i'm off work, i'm OFF WORK.

AuntieRN · Oct 1, 2006

I have absolutely no desire to get my BSN either. It may be from shear laziness but I am 41 yo and just graduated with my ADN..I have no desire to be in management...did that already...no interest in administration....done that...just wanna be a nurse....thats all...I agree furthering your education should be a personal thing. Doesn't mean I am not willing to learn as everyday is a new learning experience. Just not interested in going back to school.

tntrn, ASN, RN · Oct 1, 2006

Great thread and great responses. I got my ADN in 1976 and have never had the desire to get the BSN. The only way I have ever been able to tell who, among my co-workers, had BSN's or even MSN's) is when them feel they must make sure it is known. That is, to remind us on a frequent basis.

Currently we have a BSN student doing a 3 month internship on our unit. She attends a private school in the area. She's sharp. I overheard her say to another student (this student was from a local community college and working for her ADN) that the Community College wouldn't accept her but the private school did and I found that to be most interesting. I suppose you could interpret that a million different ways.

Lately, we were admonished by our working-on-a-BSN manager that in slow times we should be reading the journals and such, along with a lot of other things on the list. I find journal articles almost impossible to read and understand. They are so wordy, I've often wondered if they get paid by the word rather than content. To actually get to the meat of the topic, you must wade through piles and piles of rhetoric to the point that I get bored or frustrated before ever getting TO the point. I gave up my subscriptions to AJN, oh, maybe, 25 years ago. If getting a BSN would entail reading more of those, and I'm sure it would, or even worse, writing more of the same, no thank you.

mamason · Oct 1, 2006

I really don't think not wanting to persue our/your Bsn is LAZINESS. School is hard and takes much dedication. I for one am not willing to go through that process again. From most of the posts here I see that we are pretty much happy with our ADN or Diploma degrees. Some posts have even stated that you don't require a BSN or higher to move up the ladder if you wish to do so. The only thing that matters is the fact that we all feel that we are competent nurses and feel secure in the care that we are bestowing upon our pts. Plain and simple.:wink2:

mamason · Oct 1, 2006

My speller is off today!LOL! I meant pursue not persue!! LOL! :jester:

kadokin, ASN, RN · Oct 7, 2006

hello all,
i would like to know if there are any adn's out there who have no desire to get there bsn's. not because of laziness or not wanting knowledge or anything else negative, but just don't want to or feel its necessary because they don't want to be an admin or charge anything. or maybe you have other reasons. i feel there is so much pressure...rn to bsn..rn to bsn. geez adn's are just as effective or maybe sometimes more than a bsn. sure they get paid a little more but over 12 months the extra dollars don't seem worth it.
so...am i alone in thinking this.
i don't mean to offend the bsn's or anyone else. just curious.

get paid a little more? where i am, bsn does not get one penny more than an adn/asn. and a job-change that i am contemplating (which prefers a bsn) would actuallly involve a pay cut. so don't pursue a higher degree thinking it will improve your situation financially unless you want to pursue an fnp or crna or some such. i am not even sure teaching will get you more pay. it is just too ironic. w/the time, energy, and $$ one can spend pursuing higher education, it just doesn't seem to pay, sometimes. and nursing isn't the only discipline that sees this phenomena. why? why? why?

having said that, i am really glad i got my bsn. it was difficult, but i think it was worth it. and i, also, have worked w/many bsn's that are no more competent/caring than adn's and vice-versa.

i think this is one of those debates that will outlive us all.

i am just so thankful for all the nurses out there, at whatever educational level, that care enough to continue to do their jobs. where would mankind be w/out us? i ask you.

we rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!