Adn's Who Don't Care

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hello all,

i would like to know if there are any adn's out there who have no desire to get there bsn's. not because of laziness or not wanting knowledge or anything else negative, but just don't want to or feel its necessary because they don't want to be an admin or charge anything. or maybe you have other reasons. i feel there is so much pressure...rn to bsn..rn to bsn. geez adn's are just as effective or maybe sometimes more than a bsn. sure they get paid a little more but over 12 months the extra dollars don't seem worth it.

so...am i alone in thinking this.

i don't mean to offend the bsn's or anyone else. just curious.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.

I felt the same way for a long time. But as I aged, I began to wonder "can I do floor nursing for the next 20 years?" I certainly don't want to go into administration, I'm getting my BSN just to have future options, even though with ADN I've done well and don't want to change things just now. I'm thinking about teaching. I know that wasn't what you were asking.

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Specializes in Critical Care.

I for one went right into my bach degree program after getting my ADN. But, I had absolutely NO desire to get a BSN. My bach degree is in biology. I live in the same college town I graduated and believe me:

My college ring yields tons more respect than the initials BEHIND the initials behind my name that nobody sees.

It's not that I oppose education: I'm a life long student, in one form or another. It's just that I was SO burned out with the namby pamby ivory tower of nursing that there is NO way I could endure it for longer and actually pay them to abuse me in such a way.

The neat thing about nursing school was getting out and being relieved that I could drop a hefty load of that stuff to the curb and BE a good nurse.

And since I have an 'arts' degree, nobody can rightly claim that my current bach degree failed to provide me with the rounding of a 'liberal arts' education.

Don't get me wrong. It's not that I'm putting down a BSN. I'm not. I personally just couldn't stomach going back for more. I found that I have been perfectly capable of rounding out my OWN education without being subject for a second longer to the ivory tower of nursing. My problem is NOT with BSN programs specifically, but the ivory tower generally.

I DO see some benefit to moving to BSN. BUT. It's the Ivory Tower and the ANA that holds that concept back by continuing to polarize the issue. In the meantime and UNTIL they decide to depolarize that dead horse by taking back their elitist insults:

Not needed nor wanted.

(Those last comments are NOT an attempt to turn this into a BSN/ADN debate but they ARE an elemental reason why I don't care to go back for more. It speaks more to my disdain for the ATTITUDE of the tower than the difference in degrees.)

~faith,

Timothy.

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Specializes in Trauma/ED.

I am an ADN that does want to go on but am putting it off until my kids get a little bit older...probably both in middle school/high school...not sure yet. Right now I just can't see going back full time but I may take a few classes here in there just to get me headed in the right direction.

I don't see that it will be a big "gain" for me because my hospital pays 1$/hr for either certification or BSN and not for both...my certification will be much easier to get if it was for the small raise.

I just feel like Tweety mentioned how long can I actually run around this dept do I want to do it until I retire? I will be in it for the doors that will open up after completion.

Rambling a little sorry just got home from NOC shift, kills me ever time...lol goodnight or good day whatever those NOC shifters say when they go to bed :confused:

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Specializes in Medical Telemetry, LTC,AlF, Skilled care.

I think to each his own, a nurse is a nurse. Like other posters have said there are quite a few management positions, especially outside a hospital setting, that don't require a BSN. There's nothing wrong with staying an ADN or having a BSN. With me, getting a BSN is a long term goal of mine but I'm just working my way up to it. I have 7 months left in the LPN program I'm in and the hospital I work for has a very nice tuition reimbursement program for LPN's and RN's who continue their education. Some have said to me to ditch the LPN program and go straight to RN but I don't want to do that, I'm happy where I'm at and will acchieve the big RN after my name one day, after all I'm only 18 if I knock out all the challenges now what will I do in 20 years from now ;)

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Specializes in Telemetry/Med Surg.
I'm a RN who graduated from one of the few diploma schools left in the country. Chose it because it offered more clinical hours compared to the other programs around where I live. At this point, I really don't have the desire to get my BSN. The RN's around here pretty much make the same. Doesn't matter if you hold a Diploma, BSN, or ADN. The only time a BSN is needed is if you wish to persue something outside of being a staff nurse. And management just isn't for me. I guess it just depends on the individual's preferences and what they want to accomplish in their careers.:nurse:

Ditto. I graduated from a 3-year diploma program chosen because of the clinical hours. No desire to get my BSN.

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Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

This thread gives some very solid reasons for not going back to school versus going back to school.

For me, I was an LPN then an ADN and I was an ADN for 8 years before going back to school. However, my goal (as some have already mentioned) wasn't the BSN, but rather the MSN. I am so glad that I did this - it gives me more options. I do love bedside nursing but at 48 can I keep up this pace for another 20 years?? Probably not. I wanted to go back while I still had the chance to work and recoup the money that I spent on school.

I went into nursing as a second career too. As we get older, we must all face that bedside nursing is very hard work - no matter what floor or unit you work on. And...as we get older, we realize there might be other options out there that require more education.

At any rate, that is another reason nursing is so cool - so many choices.

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Specializes in cardiac.
Ditto. I graduated from a 3-year diploma program chosen because of the clinical hours. No desire to get my BSN.

Glad to meet ya! I was beginning to feel as if I was the only Diploma grad on this site. Srry don't mean to get of the topic.

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Specializes in Telemetry/Med Surg.
Glad to meet ya! I was beginning to feel as if I was the only Diploma grad on this site. Srry don't mean to get of the topic.

Nice to meet you too. We're far from being the only diploma grads here. :wink2:

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Now I would love to go back and take some "fun" courses. Art history and music appreciation have been calling my name lately. NOT nursing.

That's funny that you say that. I graduate in Dec ADN. I've been approved for more grants and loans that would come in handy for Christmas! I keep thinking...watercolor classes!!

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Whether ADN, BSN, or diploma, all RNs earned the title by passing NCLEX and should feel confident in their designation as Registered Nurse. When the day comes where only BSNs are allowed to take NCLEX then I will start worrying about what degree everyone has.

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Specializes in cardiac.
Whether ADN, BSN, or diploma, all RNs earned the title by passing NCLEX and should feel confident in their designation as Registered Nurse. When the day comes where only BSNs are allowed to take NCLEX then I will start worrying about what degree everyone has.

I believe I read another thread about mandatory BSN to practice as a RN. They stated that RN's currently holding a ASN or Diploma degree would be grandfathered in should this occur. Sorry can't remember where it was in the site.

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Specializes in Cardiac.

I'm an ADN. I wish to get a BS but not BSN. Maybe Micro or Math, but not nursing. Why would I want to get another degree in the same field? It seems redundant. I want to learn more, something new-not the same ol' same ol'.

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