A friend bought her degree from the Philippines.

[thatgirlisangel]

So I have a friend who I have known for a fact didn't go to nursing school in the Philippines because she was here in the United States working as a caregiver and mind you it takes 4 years to finish a bachelor's degree. She was taking this shady online classes and telling people that she's in nursing school. Now she miraculously applied for Florida license. Hence, she lives in Michigan and was approved to take the NCLEX. Of all the years I've known her, I have never seen her study or actually be enrolled in school. I am so upset as I worked so hard for my degree. I became an ADN first then went on to pursue my bachelor's degree. Now, she even have a private staffing agency that she poses as a graduate nurse. It baffles me to no end that a person could do all of these things and not bat an eyelash. I need an advice on what to do or should I just cut off all ties with her and let karma do their work. I never wished for anybody to fail NCLEX but in her case I hope she does. It's not safe, fair and for me, it undermines all the hard work nursing student does.

[Horseshoe, BSN, RN]

On 12/11/2019 at 11:16 AM, KatieMI said:

Foreign-trained M.D. who passed USMLE but for one reason or another switched to nursing.

Well that explains a lot! I've always thought your posts reflected a very high level of education/expertise.

[farrasha, BSN]

Make sure that you’re sure before trying to do anything, if anything. I got my BSN going to school and working two jobs and literally didn’t tell anyone for fear that I would fail and be embarrassed. No one knew even my closest friends until I posted pics of graduation. Everyone was shocked lol.

[kbrn2002, ADN, RN]

I'm not at all familiar with schools based outside the US but with all the requirements needed before being eligible to sit the NCLEX I don't know how it's possible to just buy a degree that would get past all the steps needed.

If by some chance your suspicions are correct and your friend was somehow able to buy a degree without ever attending school the odds of her qualifying to take the NCLEX and actually pass are very slim. If she is able to manage this without actually ever going to school she is some kind of genius!

[Mkakids]

On 12/12/2019 at 10:33 AM, Rose_Queen said:

Pathophys was actually built into my first nursing course rather than a separate prerequisite

We were required to pass patho prior to even applying into my ADN program.

[Megarline, CNA]

On 12/12/2019 at 7:18 AM, ladycody said:

So pathophysiology is not required for all RN programs? Had no idea...

It's a requirement for the RN programs; however, not all nursing schools require it prior to admission.

[brandy1017, ASN, RN]

I worked with several nurses from India and they were very well trained. One that shared with me her clinical training I thought it was more intense than here and perhaps on par somewhat with medical school.

Don't make assumptions about your friend's training or abilities. I hear envy in your accusations.

She simply may have had to jump thru some hoops to be licensed here. Even foreign medical doctors have to go thru residency here in spite of their credentials.

I've read of some places recruiting foreign doctors to work as nurses since apparently it is easier to get a nursing license than doctor and some people want to come to America very badly!

I worked with a man from Russia who worked as an echo tech here but was trained much higher there. He actually saved a man's life when he did an echo over the weekend and found the cause for his chest and back pain was actually a dissecting aortic aneurysm. Due to his knowledge and quick thinking this man had emergency surgery and survived!

[ocean.baby]

On ‎12‎/‎19‎/‎2019 at 7:25 PM, Megarline said:

On ‎12‎/‎12‎/‎2019 at 8:18 AM, ladycody said:

So pathophysiology is not required for all RN programs? Had no idea...

It's a requirement for the RN programs; however, not all nursing schools require it prior to admission.

No. It is not required for all ADN programs. They are still RNs.

[TiffyRN, BSN, PhD]

On 12/12/2019 at 9:18 AM, ladycody said:

So pathophysiology is not required for all RN programs? Had no idea...

I knew I hadn't taken patho as a separate course back in the early 90s for my ADN. I just checked the program of study for my old community college and it's still not a separate course; patho is integrated into the other courses. And I didn't have to take it for RN to BSN from a fully accredited not-for-profit university. And I didn't need it on my transcript to get accepted into a BSN to PhD program. Could I have used it; sure, but not required.

[Dani_Mila, BSN, RN]

That is horrible. Even here in the US, there is a website that offers 6 months of class/orientation and you can be qualified to take the RN board. I know this because one my CNA is doing it. I was appalled.

[Dani_Mila, BSN, RN]

On 12/21/2019 at 5:39 PM, brandy1017 said:

I worked with several nurses from India and they were very well trained. One that shared with me her clinical training I thought it was more intense than here and perhaps on par somewhat with medical school.

Don't make assumptions about your friend's training or abilities. I hear envy in your accusations.

She simply may have had to jump thru some hoops to be licensed here. Even foreign medical doctors have to go thru residency here in spite of their credentials.

I've read of some places recruiting foreign doctors to work as nurses since apparently it is easier to get a nursing license than doctor and some people want to come to America very badly!

I worked with a man from Russia who worked as an echo tech here but was trained much higher there. He actually saved a man's life when he did an echo over the weekend and found the cause for his chest and back pain was actually a dissecting aortic aneurysm. Due to his knowledge and quick thinking this man had emergency surgery and survived!

Yes! When I was in clinical, I met a doctor who was from the philippines but is a nurse here at the hospital when I used to do my clinical rotation because he can easily get a nursing license in the US.

[TiffyRN, BSN, PhD]

3 minutes ago, Dani_Mila said:

That is horrible. Even here in the US, there is a website that offers 6 months of class/orientation and you can be qualified to take the RN board. I know this because one my CNA is doing it. I was appalled.

What I think you are saying is that there is a course offered from a website that allows 6 months of study then you can take the RN boards? I seriously doubt this. The closest I've ever seen come to that is the old days of Excelsior where one could (if you were already an LPN, RT, paramedic, and a few other healthcare provider jobs) take their 7 nursing theory exams, as quickly as one a month, then schedule a 2 day clinical exam (CPNE). But things have changed dramatically for Excelsior and I don't know of anyone recently who's gotten through their program in less than a couple of years; especially considering they now have a year's wait list from completion of exams to CPEN exam dates.

I can accept that your CNA friend believes they are going to qualify for the NCLEX in 6 months, but I have serious doubts this is actual reality.

[Dani_Mila, BSN, RN]

3 minutes ago, TiffyRN said:

What I think you are saying is that there is a course offered from a website that allows 6 months of study then you can take the RN boards? I seriously doubt this. The closest I've ever seen come to that is the old days of Excelsior where one could (if you were already an LPN, RT, paramedic, and a few other healthcare provider jobs) take their 7 nursing theory exams, as quickly as one a month, then schedule a 2 day clinical exam (CPNE). But things have changed dramatically for Excelsior and I don't know of anyone recently who's gotten through their program in less than a couple of years; especially considering they now have a year's wait list from completion of exams to CPEN exam dates.

I can accept that your CNA friend believes they are going to qualify for the NCLEX in 6 months, but I have serious doubts this is actual reality.

Yeah I asked him about it and apparently someone has taken the class and passed their boards, working as an RN. It felt like a slap on the face because it took me 2 years to get my degree compared to someone who only did it for 6 months